| lotuspsychje | guiverc: i tested lubuntu 24.04 yesterday on an ancient acer aspire one with 2gb ram, looking great | 03:28 |
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| guiverc | :) though lxqt I think is still 1.3; 1.4 (parts anyway) only available via ppa, but it'll get there :) | 03:29 |
| lotuspsychje | the only thing i noticed is calamares was a bit slow installing | 03:30 |
| lotuspsychje | ssd inside in that machine | 03:30 |
| guiverc | i don't know, but speed of install doesn't worry me much; few of us install our systems daily :) | 03:31 |
| lotuspsychje | once installed all lookin good to me | 03:32 |
| * guiverc has noted speed.. i'll see if I notice it (I suspect unlikely), or hear others report any difference in speed ; calamares is newer version than 23.10 used | 03:32 | |
| * guiverc is aware of a few issues already with calamares; thus speed not currently my concern... | 03:33 | |
| lotuspsychje | i didnt notice other calamares issues | 03:34 |
| lotuspsychje | unfolding to console i see a lot of scripts running | 03:34 |
| lotuspsychje | partitioning went pretty well | 03:34 |
| guiverc | you could always file a bug report lotuspsychje (calamares from installed system if it'll let you) & i can look to see if anything stands out | 03:34 |
| lotuspsychje | allrighty, i will a bit later | 03:34 |
| lotuspsychje | i think around 30min install | 03:35 |
| lotuspsychje | compared to ubuntu desktop 5 to 10min | 03:35 |
| guiverc | that's slower than I was thinking.. yeah bug report maybe worthwhile :( | 03:35 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc: you recall if iso size is bigger since jammy lubuntu? | 03:36 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe it has to install more stuff? | 03:37 |
| guiverc | kinetic 1.9, impish 2.0, jammy 2.8, lunar-noble 2.9 | 03:37 |
| lotuspsychje | not too far from jammy | 03:38 |
| guiverc | the last size increase I recall related to snap change impacting ubuntu & all flavors | 03:41 |
| lotuspsychje | FF? | 03:41 |
| lotuspsychje | i think ruenoak is testing xubuntu 24.04, did you notice install speed there? | 03:42 |
| guiverc | the snap change I referred to impacted size only; not speed (pre-noble cycle though) | 03:45 |
| lotuspsychje | i see | 03:46 |
| ruenoak | Hi all I didn't notice Xubuntu was slow to install | 03:55 |
| lotuspsychje | ok tnx ruenoak | 03:56 |
| ruenoak | 24.04 image is only slightly larger that 23.10 | 03:56 |
| lotuspsychje | i see | 03:57 |
| ruenoak | When I was installing Lubuntu last week I had allot of trouble with the installer, but I wasn't sure if it was the VM I was using or the installer itself | 03:57 |
| lotuspsychje | what kind of trouble ruenoak | 03:58 |
| guiverc | we have had issues with calamares since noble ISOs were available | 03:58 |
| ruenoak | The installer would hang on coping over files | 03:58 |
| ruenoak | I thought it was frozen for a while but eventually completed, | 03:59 |
| guiverc | hang relates (rather strongly) to your SLOW comment lotuspsychje :( | 03:59 |
| ruenoak | I didn't report it as I suspected my Vm configuration at the time as I was having trouble with other 24.04 images but Xubuntu installed fine, so sI'm not sure now | 04:01 |
| guiverc | sure sounds like we (lubuntu) have an issues there (hidden?) in calamares on noble :( thanks for info ruenoak | 04:02 |
| lotuspsychje | mine did work like a charm, just felt slower | 04:03 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc: i filed bug #2043310 | 10:08 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2043310 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Calamares installs rather slow" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2043310 | 10:08 | |
| lotuspsychje | i had to do apport-collect 2043310 after ubuntu-bug as apport didnt collect the calamares logs right away | 10:37 |
| guiverc | I noticed; thanks lotuspsychje | 10:38 |
| lotuspsychje | is that normal it doesnt collect? or should i have filed a bug from a live while calamares running? | 10:39 |
| guiverc | ideally during a live session (after install), but I may have (if I thought about it) just filed online with nothing uploaded, then run `apport-collect` & hope all uploads there.. but all detail should be there.. We'll monitor it | 10:40 |
| lotuspsychje | ok tnx | 10:41 |
| guiverc | I did 3 installs today; 2 great (~7 min) & one failure... the failure (with encryption) to me the bigger issue currently | 10:41 |
| guiverc | i don't know if 7 mins is 'slow', 'normal' etc.. I'd have to re-install mantic for a 'base' speed.. (not my current concern) | 10:42 |
| lotuspsychje | 7min is fast | 10:43 |
| guiverc | compared to yours yeah.. i didn't feel fast (watching a kettle boil...) | 10:43 |
| lotuspsychje | i usualy install ubuntu-desktop in 5-10min on an ssd system | 10:43 |
| lotuspsychje | want me to test the encryption too guiverc ? | 10:44 |
| guiverc | i'm pretty sure it'll fail... if you have spare time/energy yes please do.. we've still got plenty of time so I'm not yet worried; Aaron may look when he's able | 10:45 |
| lotuspsychje | ok on it | 10:46 |
| lotuspsychje | installing | 10:54 |
| guiverc | the install i did today took longer with encryptiojn.. before error appeared.. | 10:56 |
| lotuspsychje | 8% here | 10:57 |
| lotuspsychje | unpacking packages looks like slow | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | fstab & locale 48% | 11:07 |
| lotuspsychje | looks like stalling here | 11:11 |
| guiverc | :( | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | ah it just jumped | 11:13 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc: yep i can reproduce | 11:15 |
| lotuspsychje | the bootloader could not be installed pre grub-install target i386 error code;.. | 11:15 |
| === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc_deb | ||
| lotuspsychje | affected bug #2043301 | 11:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2043301 in calamares (Ubuntu) "lubuntu noble install failure - encryption" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2043301 | 11:16 | |
| guiverc_deb | thanks lotuspsychje | 11:16 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe try bootloader on / instead of mbr now? | 11:18 |
| lotuspsychje | or did you try that already | 11:18 |
| guiverc_deb | sudodus (Nio) also had the issue & has made a report on bug.report (~10 mins ago)... We have a problem we can re-produce so I'm happy there for now.. We can save our energy for re-testing until we have a cause & hopeful-fix, or need more details... | 11:19 |
| guiverc_deb | thanks lotuspsychje | 11:19 |
| * guiverc_deb is in kitchen doing chores; thus on different box | 11:20 | |
| lotuspsychje | ill do some food too here, and try again encryption with bootloader on / | 11:23 |
| lotuspsychje | i think the speedbug, unpacking packages eats most of the setup time (in my case usb stick over usb 2.0) | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | on a modern pc/protocol it prob will turbo | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | running locale-gen seems like also a bottleneck | 11:38 |
| guiverc_deb | i'll do next installs (with lubuntu) on a box that uses these screens; hp dc7700 from ~2005 which is usb2 only.. | 11:39 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 11:40 |
| lotuspsychje | no dice with bootloader on / + encryption guiverc_deb | 11:46 |
| lotuspsychje | same error | 11:46 |
| guiverc_deb | :( but to me expected (proves my believed understanding of issue... but thanks for testing) | 11:52 |
| * guiverc_deb got a fright when you pinged here... i can still hear guiverc if pinged | 11:53 | |
| lotuspsychje | filed a new bug on ubuntu-desktop on subdownloader; bug #2043315 in case anyone wants to test | 13:57 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2043315 in subdownloader (Ubuntu) "Subdownloader dock icon launches a python3 gear" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2043315 | 13:57 | |
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