[16:00] <rbasak> o/
[16:00] <kanashiro> o/
[16:01] <seb128> hey
[16:01]  * tsimonq2 lurks
[16:01] <seb128> unsure who is around today, it's post travelling for Canonicalers
[16:02] <seb128> also there isn't an application to review on the agenda
[16:02] <seb128> kanashiro, I just joined IRC, do you know if anyone else waved before?
[16:02] <kanashiro> just rbasak
[16:03] <seb128> ah, he had declined the calendar invitation
[16:03] <rbasak> tsimonq2 had an enquiry on the ML
[16:04] <tsimonq2> Which one? ;)
[16:04] <seb128> is that the email from yesterday?
[16:05] <rbasak> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:01:58 -0600
[16:05] <rbasak> > Please carefully consider my thoughts, and let me know what you think.
[16:06] <rbasak> tsimonq2: I'm not sure what "fast tracking" means though?
[16:06] <tsimonq2> rbasak: To consider such an application in an expedited manner, taking into consideration the exceptional circumstances surrounding his application.
[16:06] <tsimonq2> In short, it's a strong endorsement.
[16:07] <kanashiro> I was wondering how can we fast track someone's application
[16:07] <teward> *derps into existence*
[16:07] <seb128> I think whoever wants to apply should do it by themself
[16:07] <seb128> that proxy nomination of someone else is a bit weird
[16:07] <teward> tsimonq2: anyone who wants rights needs to apply themselves
[16:07] <teward> proxy nomination doesn't exist for devel privs
[16:07] <teward> (except for the Lubuntu packagesets via lubuntu-devel handled by the Lubuntu CounciL)
[16:07] <rbasak> tsimonq2: I'm not aware that there is an application to "fast track" right now though anyway?
[16:08] <teward> rbasak: there isn't.  Simon wants to fast-track arraybolt3 into developer privs WITHOUT arraybolt3 going through the process themeslves
[16:08] <tsimonq2> teward: Hold your horses, though.
[16:08] <teward> rbasak: basically, Simon wants us to create a new process to 'fast track' without direct applications, bypassing the current requirements for DMB
[16:08] <seb128> I'm not sure that's what he asked
[16:09] <seb128> tsimonq2, could you perhaps clarify here what you are asking for exactly?
[16:09] <rbasak> To be clear, given tsimonq2's endorsement in that email, it sounds like we would very much like them to apply for MOTU! But I'm not sure there's anything we can do really until that application arrives.
[16:09] <kanashiro> From what I understood it was indeed an endorsement. But that should go to the wiki page application (when there is one)
[16:09] <seb128> shouldn't Aaron just write an application page and put himself down for review in one of the next meetings?
[16:09] <teward> looks like the email didn't get past spam filters *goes into the archives*
[16:10] <rbasak> For personal reasons I'm not really available to help myself until January unfortunately.
[16:10] <teward> rbasak: ot, i'mma still steal you for like 30min for a keysign so I can get my Debian keys updated.
[16:10] <teward> at some point
[16:10] <teward> tsimonq2: unless Aaron files their own application, there's nothing for DMB to do.  They still have to file an application.
[16:10] <rbasak> teward: tomorrow or Wednesday please!
[16:11] <tsimonq2> To be clear, I don't want to create any *additional* processes. My request is, when he submits his application in the very near future, I would like the context of his lubuntu-dev meeting to be carefully considered. Apologies for any ambiguity, I did clearly state that this is not a current request to *add him immediately*, more me asking for advice/consent, and asking for any helpful feedback
[16:11] <teward> rbasak: send me your availability privately
[16:11] <tsimonq2> you can provide for arraybolt3 as he prepares to take those next steps very soon.
[16:11] <tsimonq2> It is also an incredibly strong endorsement of that application, which I will essentially link there.
[16:12] <rbasak> tsimonq2: OK. So no action requested from us for now?
[16:13] <tsimonq2> rbasak: No formal action required by the Developer Membership Board at this time (thus me not adding it as an agenda item), but I would certainly appreciate a followup from individual members before the next DMB meeting, if you could. :)
[16:13] <kanashiro> teward if you need help with key signing when Robie is not available I can help, just ping me
[16:13] <teward> tsimonq2: until there's an application filed, there's no need for DMB to do anything, either review or otherwise
[16:13] <teward> [ot] kanashiro: ack, thank you kindly!  Robie already said they'd help before the Summit so we just have to sync schedules
[16:13] <tsimonq2> teward: And that is the point at which I draw the line and leave the decision up to the DMB. :)
[16:14] <rbasak> tsimonq2: sorry I don't follow. What sort of folloup from individual members are you looking for?
[16:14] <tsimonq2> rbasak: To look at https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Aaron+Rainbolt&sponsoree_search=name and, if there is any additional feedback you would provide WRT a prospective MOTU, what would it be?
[16:15] <tsimonq2> Anyway, I don't want to take up a lot of your valuable time on this; either way, the original email is more of a "please have this on your radar, he's really doing great work" :)
[16:15] <kanashiro> tsimonq2 I think it is better if there is a wiki page with the application to provide proper feedback
[16:15] <seb128> tsimonq2, I think he should put his application up and sign up for one of the next meetings so we can review it
[16:16] <seb128> I'm happy to read it and provide feedback on the list before the meeting to help managing expectations
[16:16] <tsimonq2> Got it. Unfortuately, it might be a bit early on his end, but I'll chat with him today. :)
[16:16] <tsimonq2> Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it!
[16:16] <kanashiro> awesome :)
[16:17] <seb128> well you can write him a draft and hand it to him if you want to help him because he's busy or something
[16:17] <rbasak> OK
[16:17] <rbasak> AOB?
[16:17] <seb128> not from me
[16:17] <teward> not here
[16:17] <tsimonq2> Oh, one quick thing, and I can add this to the ML if you guys want...
[16:17] <kanashiro> None
[16:18] <tsimonq2> lxqt-menu-data needs to be added to the lubuntu packageset, is that something that could be handled? :)
[16:18] <tsimonq2> Otherwise that's it from my end, thanks again everyone.
[16:18] <teward> tsimonq2: email a request to devel permissions, we can handle that there.
[16:18] <tsimonq2> teward: Sounds good!
[16:21] <kanashiro> thanks everyone o/
[16:27] <seb128> thanks!
[16:28] <teward> *returns to the abyss of chaotic workI*