[03:22] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: umm, Konsol seems to have lost it's menu bar and I can't turn it back on???
[03:27] <OvenWerks> Got it... and once set it seems to stay.
[03:27] <OvenWerks> did the default change in 23.10?
[03:49] <arraybolt3> Did you experiment with a global menu?
[03:49] <arraybolt3> That's how I got myself in the same sticky situation the other day.
[03:50] <arraybolt3> Once you add a global menu in KDE, all KDE apps stop displaying their normal menu... but then the normal menu doesn't come back if you remove the global menu.
[04:05] <OvenWerks> arraybolt3: I do not recall having done such a thing in years.... and probably in xfce :P