[19:18] <guitarman> anyone have issues with kdenlive crashing regularly on ubuntu studio?
[19:18] <guitarman> on ubu8ntu studio 22.04
[19:18] <guitarman> kdenlive version 21.12.3
[19:19] <guitarman> seems to happen with big proxy clips
[19:20] <guitarman> ah that's an older version i notice, i'll see if i can find a more current version.
[19:21] <guitarman> installing the snap package, hopefully that's better
[19:21] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: Check release notes for how to get a newer version.
[19:22] <guitarman> checking
[19:24] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: Sorry, release announcement.
[19:24] <Eickmeyer> https://ubuntustudio.org/2022/04/ubuntu-studio-22-04-lts-released/
[19:25] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: are you suggestion i add the backkports for kubuntu and ubuntu studio
[19:25] <guitarman> i didn't see kdenlive in the post
[19:25] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: Why not both?
[19:26] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: do you feel an ubuntu studio user should upgrade each release or lts only
[19:26] <guitarman> i know being on 22.04 is older
[19:26] <guitarman> i can enable both
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> Adding a backport PPA doesn't preclude LTS.
[19:26] <guitarman> no i'm just asking
[19:26] <guitarman> 2 questions
[19:27] <guitarman> 1. should i be upgrading ubuntu studio each release (maybe this is dependent on my believe that the lts is more stable)
[19:27] <guitarman> 2. if i stay on my version, are you recommending adding the 2 ppas
[19:27] <guitarman> sorry rather add backpor4ts to both kde and backports repo
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> Ok, first of all, your idea of "stable" is flawed. If you think "stable" is bug-free, that's a poor notion because there's no such thing. Stable just means not as many updates.
[19:28] <guitarman> the theory is less updates means less to go wrong
[19:28] <guitarman> i know bug free is impossible
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> Again, that's based on a poor notion.
[19:29] <guitarman> interesting
[19:29] <guitarman> well i know i had breakage on arch that i didn't have on debian stable
[19:29] <guitarman> +
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> The reason "Debian Stable" is "Stable" is because it receives next to no updates, but they put it through the wringer to make sure it's as bug free as possible. Ubuntu has no equivalent.
[19:30] <arraybolt3> If you like to not reinstall or do risky upgrades frequently, staying on LTS would be a good idea.
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> LTS is long-term support meaning it continuously receives updates, but that doesn't mean it's "stable' in the same sense.
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> It just means you don't have to upgrade every six momths.
[19:31] <guitarman> interesting.  ok this is a new way of thinking for me
[19:32] <Eickmeyer> The problem with LTS, though, is some things don't receive updates and remain with bugs that you'll live with until the next LTS.
[19:33] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: i'll stay current knowing all this
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: This is why those backports PPAs exist so that you can receive those updates. You gave the version of Kdenlive, and I know for a fact it's some bugfixes behind what's in the Kubuntu PPA.
[19:34] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: fair enough
[19:35] <Eickmeyer> The Ubuntu Studio backports will be sunset in favor of an official Ubuntu backports repository for the next LTS.
[19:37] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: The thing is, I didn't want to just hand you the answer because that's not my job. Only you can decide for yourself what's best for you.
[19:37] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: I'd like the latest stuff, i'm upgrading right now as we speak
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> ok
[19:38] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: to be honest my system isn't that stable anyways
[19:38] <guitarman> firefox or virtualbox hang my desktop regularly
[19:38] <guitarman> my scarllet interface stops working after a while and i have to replug the usb in
[19:38] <guitarman> so somethings off
[19:38] <guitarman> as in, it can't get much worse hopefully lol
[23:07] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I noticed on both of my systems that when I did the last install they did not pick up the swap partitions automatically. The default used to be that if there was a swap partition it would get detected and used.
[23:08] <OvenWerks> I can understand this could cause problems in some cases.
[23:09] <OvenWerks> I don't know how easy it would be but the installer could ask: "swap partitions found, select any partition below if you want this install to use it."
[23:11] <OvenWerks> It apears this was some of my problems with FF locking up or crashing because sinse I added the swap partition to fstab I have not had that happen any more.
[23:13] <OvenWerks> It could be that in the past I did select a swap partition but was surprised when it was also using an older swap partion as well.