/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2023/11/17/#cloud-init.txt

meenathis sounds confusing, https://jobsfordevelopers.com/jobs/gcp-cloud-engineer-ii-at-rackspace-com-oct-26-2023-f8912200:01
minimalmeena: I didn't know Microsoft and Linux were languages lol00:20
minimalI guess Bash could be "loosely" described as a configuration management system ;-)00:20
minimalholmanb: apparently virt-install is deprecated in RHEL8+ https://blog.wikichoon.com/2020/06/virt-manager-deprecated-in-rhel.html00:24
minimalholmanb: "some advantage to not using virt-install?" it maybe not be packaged for a particular distro? It's just a frontend to creating/manipulating libvirtd's XML which, as the article I earlier referenced, you can do directly00:26
holmanbminimal: "Also, I'm distinguishing virt-manager UI from the virt-manager project, which includes tools like virt-install. I fully expect virt-install to be shipped in RHEL9 and actively maintained (FWIW Cockpit uses it behind the scenes)." 01:18
holmanbminimal: that's from the blog post you linked01:19
holmanbSo virt-install isn't going anywhere I guess? 01:19
minimalholmanb: doh! Once again my own fault from not reading the whole article in details lol. Strange though: " I'm distinguishing virt-manager UI from the virt-manager project", I thought virt-manager was basically really just a UI01:28
minimalanyway to restate once again, libvirtd does not require or assume virt-install, it's just an optional easy way to create VMs rather than manipulating the XML descriptions using virsh01:29
holmanbminimal all good 07:37
holmanbFor me though I prefer a front end to xml. Hurts my brain and I'd rather just not, though I see what you're saying.07:38
holmanbI remember using expat years ago to write a high performance XML parser in C07:43
* holmanb shudders07:43
holmanbThat was a project I was tasked with ^^07:44
holmanbWhat I didn't know at the time was that the performance bottleneck was in the serialization of data, not the deserialization.07:45
holmanbso my effort was wasted - had I just used perf I could have saved myself a lot of pain07:46
holmanbI later rewrote the whole tool by reverse engineering the underlying library (it was undocumented and I didn't have the source) and calling the symbols that did what I wanted.07:49
holmanbThen I found the source and felt pretty dumb for having figured out the library by trial and error.07:52
holmanbThat implementation was fast enough, but in retrospect I don't think anyone actually expected me to solve the problem they asked me to solve.07:52
holmanbAnd I'm sure the code I wrote back then was horrifying 07:53
holmanbit was one of those: let's give the new guy a hard problem and no direction and see what happens08:16
holmanbsink or swim is an awful thing to do to people but it was the culture there08:19
meena07:52 <holmanb> That implementation was fast enough, but in retrospect I don't think anyone actually expected me to solve the problem they asked me to solve. ← hah!13:26
=== pepperoni is now known as Guest212

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!