[05:00] <Rocky33> I have system that reports errors just after bios - but works - how to rid of errors - 22.04 - thanks.
[05:02] <toddc> !details
[05:03] <toddc> Rocky33: what is the error?
[05:03] <Rocky33> who ?
[05:03] <Rocky33> the error starten upon the inception of driver for the 1650 card
[05:04] <Rocky33> I think its the 535 driver ?
[05:07] <toddc> Rocky33: to check use this guide https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/nvidia-drivers-installation
[05:08] <Rocky33> toddc:  its fromthe initial installation from over 8 months ago, it was hypothetically revised 3 times
[05:09] <toddc> that should list current installed drivers  assuming apt autoremove should have remove older drivers
[05:10] <Rocky33> toddc:  is ubuntu able to overocme this with out re-installations being much work and files that were created for the sole purpose of storage ??
[05:10] <Rocky33> toddc:  ubuntu has sent many kernel versions - would that not be included ??
[05:11] <toddc> nvidia creates it own drivers and they are not open souce so no they must be added
[05:12] <toddc> !nvidia
[05:13] <Rocky33> toddc:  so, what kernel changes were included in the 525 driver that changed everything, to the point that i need to go wlsewhere to correct this problem outside of the driver updates ??
[05:15] <Rocky33> From a personall effect - ubunru has become compartmentalised so that each department has no idea what the next completes soas there is nothing but confusion -- does that sound right ??
[05:16] <toddc> As far as I know we cannot look in nvidia to test or figure out what they do so replace with a different version is about the best i help but wait here a bit others may have better input
[05:16] <Rocky33> toddc:  so, the blob is sent as (a temp fix) is that right ??
[05:17] <Rocky33> Ubuntu used to be responsible
[05:17] <Rocky33> what happened.
[05:19] <toddc> I would not go that far but a huge number of issues here are nvidia   nouveau is open source we look fix and update that but it lacks features  rolls back to nvidia
[05:19] <Rocky33> no one is asking real questions.
[05:19] <toddc> legality licening  nvidia
[05:19] <Rocky33> Aand thse responsible dont waht to either answer or know.
[05:19] <Rocky33> want
[05:20] <Rocky33> I see that the money changers have taken over. its not rocket science.
[05:21] <Rocky33> It may be time to go to the lowest common demonitator as far a slinux builds go. thanks for ur time.
[05:21] <Rocky33> Its a throw away society. and ubuntu has towed the line.
[05:22] <Rocky33> good by ubuntu.
[05:39] <Rocky33> anyway
[05:39] <Rocky33> shoot me a fix already
[05:40] <Rocky33> OPEN YOUR EYES:  https://files.catbox.moe/mv3g18.mp4
[05:59] <Rocky33> ic
[06:00] <Rocky33> But, the world needs to make a satns, - I stifle.
[06:00] <Rocky33> stand
[06:00] <Rocky33> thanks for listening.
[06:01] <Rocky33> I was one of those victims.
[06:01] <Rocky33> nuff said.
[06:02] <Rocky33> anyway - back to the ubuntu kernel 535 driver for the 22.04 kernel hat changed 27 times and was directed to websites for a fix.
[06:02] <Rocky33> explain that
[06:08] <Rocky33> let me say this for the youngsters in the game - I started linux when bsd was 3.6 - ok ? - your scholing sounds logical as well as complete - its-not -- they failed to include departments that are doing things that you are not, - I also see that A.I. has elimated the spelling feature to include incompitence in the atmosphere of conclusions,
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> keep this channel for support issues only please Rocky33
[06:09] <Rocky33> yes, im 72, we built the systems that employ you today.
[06:11] <xMopx> thank you Rocky33 🙏 father of capitalism
[06:11] <Rocky33> I repair games / tv / vcr / ham radio / police radio / commercal radio / anything electronic. thank you.
[06:12] <xMopx> what is your favorite front-end library? And why isn't it HTMX?
[06:12] <Rocky33> I dont have and play favorates.
[06:12] <xMopx> cop out
[06:12] <arraybolt3> What on earth is happening in here?!
[06:13] <Rocky33> xMopx:  grow up.
[06:13] <guiverc> this is Ubuntu support; please stay on-topic.
[06:13] <arraybolt3> This is a mess. Please stop going off-topic.
[06:13] <Rocky33> on topic
[06:13] <Rocky33> anyway - back to the ubuntu kernel 535 driver for the 22.04 kernel hat changed 27 times and was directed to websites for a fix.
[06:15] <arraybolt3> So... what are you trying to do? You were getting kernel errors, could you share what errors those were?
[06:16] <Rocky33> the errors were shared many times - with nothing but 3rd party websites for fixes.. arraybolt3 are you personally privey to such fixes ??
[06:16] <arraybolt3> I won't know until I see the errors, and I don't see them in the backlog.
[06:17] <arraybolt3> I am an Ubuntu Developer so I know my way around the OS relatively well.
[06:17] <Rocky33> arraybolt3:  what makes you qualified for me to show you for the 30th time for fixes ??
[06:18] <Rocky33> arraybolt3:  my question is legendary - fix 535 right ??
[06:18] <arraybolt3> I don't even see one time where the errors were shared. Was it the MP4 video you posted earlier?
[06:19] <Rocky33> arraybolt3:  be THAT developer that is and will be considered a GOD.
[06:19] <arraybolt3> Generally NVIDIA issues can be solved by reinstalling the driver, which I've done before.
[06:19] <Rocky33> hot air
[06:20] <Rocky33> I might go back to time consuming GENTOO
[06:20] <Rocky33> it works.. right ?
[06:20] <Rocky33> I have been with ubuntu since version 4
[06:20] <Rocky33> 7.04 was the best like kde 3.5
[06:20] <Rocky33> what gives
[06:20] <arraybolt3> If you want help, please type whatever the error is (or paste it somewhere, or something), and put it where we can see it. I can't read your computer's logs remotely, and I can't tell which one of the fifty or more different things that could go wrong did go wrong without seeing logs.
[06:21] <Rocky33> arraybolt3:  thank you for your time and efforts.
[06:22] <Rocky33> do me right arraybolt3
[06:22] <Rocky33> do something conical cant.
[06:23]  * Rocky33 waits
[06:23]  * arraybolt3 waits for logs
[06:23] <Rocky33> conical has them- zero fix
[06:23] <xMopx> what kind of wait are you using Rocky33
[06:23] <xMopx> select? spinlock>
[06:23] <xMopx> ?
[06:23] <Rocky33> for your wisdom
[06:23] <xMopx> it matters
[06:24] <Rocky33> you have none
[06:24] <arraybolt3> Do you know what system logs are?
[06:24] <Rocky33> no, i came from windoze
[06:24] <arraybolt3> They're generally in a file at /var/log/syslog
[06:24] <Rocky33> you people crack me up.. children at the steering wheel
[06:25] <arraybolt3> When apps and the kernel run into certain errors, they save a record of them.
[06:25] <Rocky33> nite
[06:25]  * arraybolt3 sighs with relief
[06:26] <xMopx> rip
[06:27] <xMopx> to be fair, the process of making nvidia work on linux drives me a bit crazy too xd
[06:58] <Yakov> why cant I edit sublime editor preferences file in ubuntu?
[07:03] <Patrick_> I'm on the fence as to whether that guy was real or posting machine-generated sentences
[07:03] <Patrick_> but there was some coherence, so maybe not
[07:03] <Yakov> me?
[07:04] <Patrick_> no, the guy who signed off
[07:04] <toddc> Yakov: no not you
[07:08] <ashwink> heys
[07:38] <pickanick> leftyfb: Thanks for the discussion earlier. I have been since told the DNS behavior I was seeing is by design of wg: if you use DNS over wg it bypasses local DNS cache.
[07:57] <xMopx> conical 🤣
[08:05] <Patrick_> pickanick: wg meaning wireguard?
[08:06] <Patrick_> I wouldn't have guessed that a vpn would affect dns behavior
[10:42] <dev3> any suricata and wazuh users in this channel.  currently have suricata set-up and configured on my router but would now like to have wazuh set-up to check for configuration mis-steps and false positives/false negatives in my ubuntu box.
[11:50] <pickanick> Patrick_: yes; note: it is *not* required, it's an option to direct DNS requests to some desired server while the connection is up.
[11:52] <pickanick> Which is very convenient, but I didn't expect that it skipped the local DNS cache entirely.
[11:52] <Patrick_> intereesting
[11:59] <Guest7205> hello
[12:53] <aki_> HELLOOOO
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> welcome aki_
[12:54] <aki_> THANK U
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:41] <lavaball> can i distro upgrade remotely? i have an 18.04 desktop running and just noticed there is no support no more.
[18:58] <mzoku> i want to see previews of the files in the file folders (when uploading files, opening files via apps etc)
[22:17] <Patrick_> does anyone know why ubuntu has disabled the privacy>devices section in gnome-control-center?
[23:15] <tanja_> I have a question. if I remove a ppa ( in my situation ubuntu-toolchain-r/test ) is there then a easy ish or prefered way to downgrade the packages that has come from that repo
[23:23] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | tanja_
[23:26] <tanja_> Bashing-om, Thank you very much unfortunately ppa-purge says "Could not find package list for PPA: ubuntu-toolchain-r test". But gonna try with the "sudo add-apt-repository --remove" which also were the way I added it
[23:27] <tanja_> it were just more if there were some gotcha's I should look out for ( the reason for me is to get the libstdc++ downgraded from the ppa version )
[23:30] <Bashing-om> tanja_: None other that I am aware of - good luck :)
[23:34] <tanja_> thank you very much exept didnt go well unfortunally so gonna getting ready to reinstall, thankfully the enviroment in a container :)
[23:37] <tanja_> since it says "Reinstallation of libstdc++6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." when I try to reinstall it so it can get the distro version, and it wont uninstall it since it sees it as a important package
[23:37] <gordonjcp> tanja_: this is an impressive mess, what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:40] <tanja_> had previus added https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test for updated gcc compiler but that has then also updated the libstdc++ to a newer version so compiled programs cant run other other places because of the newer gcc library
[23:42] <tanja_> so what I'm trying to do is to get it back to the jammy distro version of libstdc++ so in essence downgraded. But I do also have a backup plan there is recreate the container from scratch since I always does my compiling in containers ( and this was my ubuntu jammy comtainer )
[23:46] <arraybolt3> apt-cache policy libstdc++6
[23:46] <arraybolt3> find the distro version
[23:46] <arraybolt3> Then sudo apt install libstdc++6=version
[23:46] <tanja_> gordonjcp, and the main reason I'm trying to downgrade it and in essence remove the ubuntu team ppa is that other jammy systems fail running programs compiled on it with the error "version `GLIBCXX_3.4.32' not found" since the library in the ppa apparently adds newer GLIBCXX version even that they are under the same name
[23:46] <arraybolt3> Replace version with the non-PPA version
[23:47] <arraybolt3> Though if you've corrupted a core system library like this it may be easier to just remake the container.
[23:50] <tanja_> arraybolt3, thank you very much actually got it downgraded but yeah I would say alot have changed so I do also feel a recreation is best. Just thought it were a great opptunity to learn since in worst cate it would just be wiped
[23:53] <tanja_> yeah just tested and even the compilings are failing its really corrupt but still thank you very much for learning me how to downgrade
[23:57] <gordonjcp> tanja_: why, though?
[23:57] <gordonjcp> tanja_: what's the end goal of fiddling about with gcc versions?
[23:59] <tanja_> gordonjcp, well I do program and compile and wanted gcc-13 prior and that was why I added the repo since everyone I saw said it was from the official ubuntu team, but I do see you dont get it