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juliank#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:00
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juliank#topic Lightning rounds16:01
juliank#link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-23-november-2023/4050216:01
bdrung\o16:01
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slyonwaveform: I just sponsored your xfsprogs sync16:04
waveformthanks!16:04
bdrungadrien, did you document the armhf issues caused by -fstack-clash-protection in a launchpad bug?16:04
* juliank saw it documented in Debian :D16:06
bdrungIf not, please open a launchpad bug and link the Debian bugs to it16:06
mkukrii believe he did: https://code.launchpad.net/~adrien-n/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+git/dpkg/+merge/45618116:07
mkukriand steve uploaded dpkg with the change now16:07
juliankI guess final answer will have to be done out-of-meeting16:09
adrienbdrung: no16:09
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs16:10
juliank#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:10
juliankbug 2037004 I'm inclined is actually an ubuntu-drivers-common issue16:10
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037004 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "warnings in terminal with software-properties-gtk" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203700416:10
adrienI didn't have that much time to do but also, I wasn't exactly sure how to write it down in an LP bug (well, I can describe it but it seemed highly unnatural)16:10
bdrungadrien, next time you could open a dummy bug report that you reference in d/changelog. The bug description can be extended even after the upload.16:10
adrienthat's a very compelling point16:11
juliankReassigned the bug to ubuntu-drivers-common16:11
juliankNow it's desktop's issue :D16:11
juliankbug 161626216:11
bdrungadrien, it will be easier for someone in the future to get to the launchpad bug from the changelog entry to get the reasoning for this change.16:12
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1616262 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Unable to update initramfs with small boot partition" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161626216:12
juliankWell this is invalid16:12
juliankbdrung: This should be Won't Fix; /boot is required to have space for 3 kernels16:13
bdrungwe could implement https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1616262/comments/616:13
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1616262 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Unable to update initramfs with small boot partition" [Medium, Triaged]16:13
juliankOr at the very least not incoming16:13
juliankThis is not a system configuration we are looking to support16:13
juliankThe workaround proposed is non-atomic meaning you can end up without a kernel16:13
waveformprecisely16:14
juliankI'll wontfix with comment16:15
juliankbug 196939416:15
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969394 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Settings & Livepatch' button opens 'settings' tab, not livepatch" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196939416:15
juliankI think this is a desktop thing since it involes design stuff16:16
juliankbug 2026310 is an annoying thing for mkukri to figure out16:17
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2026310 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot entry named 'ubuntu' should be called 'Ubuntu'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202631016:17
juliankSo I tagged this foundations-todo16:19
juliankbug 204149116:19
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041491 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Provide an option to avoid the yaml NM backend" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204149116:19
slyonThis is a controversal issue. We should probably first find consensus within the Netplan sync.16:20
* slyon removing the tag16:20
juliankthanks slyon16:20
juliankbug 204210016:20
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2042100 in libmatch-simple-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmatch-simple-perl (libio-prompter-perl dependency)" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204210016:20
slyonThis one is already assigned (during proposed-migration). I've removed the tag, too16:20
juliankthanks again16:21
juliank204279016:21
juliankbug 204279016:21
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2042790 in glibc (Ubuntu) "libc6-prof description should say what profiling features are present" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204279016:21
juliankI think we will look at this later again there are things inflight16:22
juliankbug 204371316:23
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2043713 in apport (Ubuntu) "armhf autopkgtests fail due to TestApportValgrind.test_valgrind_min_installed" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204371316:23
juliankbdrung: ^16:23
adrienthat actually looks like our -fstack-clash-protection issue16:24
juliankpossibly16:24
juliankadrien: Can you leave something on the bug to that effect?16:24
bdrungthen let's check if is will be fixed by disabling -fstack-clash-protection16:24
adriensudden and unexplained tons of "Invalid size of write 4"16:24
adrienjuliank: sure16:24
mkukriit definitely is the same thing16:25
juliankthanks16:25
juliankbug 201553816:25
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015538 in dbus-broker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-broker" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201553816:25
juliankNothing new there I suppose16:25
slyonnothing new.16:25
slyonThe system squad could re-consider comment #316:25
slyonand maybe cycle it back to the desktop team16:25
juliankbug 201740116:25
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Jammy) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201740116:25
juliankI think we'll get back to this later because I don't know what we decided16:26
juliankWe had meetings about it, but we didn't record the conclusion in the bug .(16:27
juliankbug 203660416:27
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036604 in shim (Ubuntu) "Synchronous Exception when booting VMs via qemu-efi-aarch64" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203660416:27
juliankI'll tag this todo16:27
juliank#link https://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:28
juliankbug 204151816:28
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041518 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:5:_g_log_abort:g_log_writer_default:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_standard" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204151816:28
bdrungthis is for the desktop team for gtk+-3.016:29
juliankbug 204183116:29
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041831 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager:11:g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a:g_object_ref:gdk_event_copy:pygi_boxed_copy_in_place:arg_boxed_to_py_cleanup" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204183116:29
juliankI don't see anytzhing actionaable right now16:31
juliankbug 204183316:32
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041833 in systemd (Ubuntu) "/lib/systemd/systemd-localed:6:__waitid:wait_for_terminate:wait_for_terminate_and_check:safe_fork_full:safe_fork" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204183316:32
juliankI assigned this to enr0n for further investigation16:33
juliankbug 204183416:33
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041834 in systemd (Ubuntu) "/lib/systemd/systemd-journald:6:__futex_abstimed_wait_common64:__futex_abstimed_wait_common:__GI___futex_abstimed_wait_cancelable64:__pthread_clockjoin_ex:___pthread_join" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204183416:33
juliankI guess I'll also assign this to Nick for further investigation16:33
juliankThe stack trace doesn't look unreasonable16:34
juliankOK16:34
juliankso ll is empty16:34
juliankjj is empty16:35
juliankand ff is empty16:35
juliankThat's it for bugs16:35
juliank#topic Team proposed-migration report16:35
juliank#link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:35
bdrungi'll take distro-info16:36
waveformI've still got libauthen-sasl-perl16:37
julianklibauthen-sasl-perl is with waveform16:37
julianklibio-prompter-perl  is with danilogondolfo16:37
danilogondolfolibio-prompter-perl is with me, I still need to investigate it. It's actually an mir16:37
julianklibuv1 is with ginggs16:37
juliankman-db is with dbungert16:37
julianknvme-stas is with ogayot16:38
juliankdistro-info: bdrung16:38
julianklazy-object-proxy slyon?16:38
slyonok16:39
julianknumpy mkukri?16:39
juliankpython-apt is done actually16:39
adrienno migration for me please, my plate is full and I've been kept busy by a bunch of them this week :)16:40
juliankpython-launchpadlib mateus-morais16:40
juliankadrien: you are still assigned to liblog-any-perl in jira though16:40
juliankmaybe it got resolved, idk16:40
mateus-moraisjuliank: ack16:40
juliankpython-ldap upils ?16:41
bdrungcracklib2 looks simple to fix16:41
adrienjuliank: yaeh, which I plan to do in > 10 days and actually I hope it's resolved in debian by the time I get to it because I find these migrations (related to liblicense-perl) pretty weird every time16:41
upilsjuliank: ack16:41
juliankpython-werkzeug pushkarnk?16:42
pushkarnkack16:42
juliankabydos zhsj?16:42
zhsjack16:43
juliankadvocate would be the next one16:43
juliankadvocate: cpete?16:44
juliankaioquic: dviererbe16:44
juliankaiosmtplib liushuyu16:45
juliankasgi-lifespan: sil210016:45
juliankatropos: vpa197716:45
juliankautoflake xypron16:46
juliankbidict enr0n16:46
juliankbmtk: juliank16:47
juliankanyone else want one?16:47
juliankAnyone wants to create an epic and copy the old ones over?16:47
juliankWe need to move this to an pre-generated epic16:48
juliank#topic AOB16:48
juliankWell then let me end the IRC side16:52
juliank#endmeeting16:52
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