[16:00] <juliank> o/
[16:00] <mkukri> o/
[16:00] <zhsj> o/
[16:00] <pushkarnk> o/
[16:00] <slyon> \o
[16:00] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:00] <ogayot> o/
[16:01] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[16:01] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-23-november-2023/40502
[16:01] <bdrung> \o
[16:02] <mateus-morais> o/
[16:02] <Skia> o/
[16:02] <upils> o/
[16:02] <ravikant_> o/
[16:04] <slyon> waveform: I just sponsored your xfsprogs sync
[16:04] <waveform> thanks!
[16:04] <bdrung> adrien, did you document the armhf issues caused by -fstack-clash-protection in a launchpad bug?
[16:06]  * juliank saw it documented in Debian :D
[16:06] <bdrung> If not, please open a launchpad bug and link the Debian bugs to it
[16:07] <mkukri> i believe he did: https://code.launchpad.net/~adrien-n/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+git/dpkg/+merge/456181
[16:07] <mkukri> and steve uploaded dpkg with the change now
[16:09] <juliank> I guess final answer will have to be done out-of-meeting
[16:09] <adrien> bdrung: no
[16:10] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:10] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:10] <juliank> bug 2037004 I'm inclined is actually an ubuntu-drivers-common issue
[16:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037004 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "warnings in terminal with software-properties-gtk" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037004
[16:10] <adrien> I didn't have that much time to do but also, I wasn't exactly sure how to write it down in an LP bug (well, I can describe it but it seemed highly unnatural)
[16:10] <bdrung> adrien, next time you could open a dummy bug report that you reference in d/changelog. The bug description can be extended even after the upload.
[16:11] <adrien> that's a very compelling point
[16:11] <juliank> Reassigned the bug to ubuntu-drivers-common
[16:11] <juliank> Now it's desktop's issue :D
[16:11] <juliank> bug 1616262
[16:12] <bdrung> adrien, it will be easier for someone in the future to get to the launchpad bug from the changelog entry to get the reasoning for this change.
[16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1616262 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Unable to update initramfs with small boot partition" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1616262
[16:12] <juliank> Well this is invalid
[16:13] <juliank> bdrung: This should be Won't Fix; /boot is required to have space for 3 kernels
[16:13] <bdrung> we could implement https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1616262/comments/6
[16:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1616262 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Unable to update initramfs with small boot partition" [Medium, Triaged]
[16:13] <juliank> Or at the very least not incoming
[16:13] <juliank> This is not a system configuration we are looking to support
[16:13] <juliank> The workaround proposed is non-atomic meaning you can end up without a kernel
[16:14] <waveform> precisely
[16:15] <juliank> I'll wontfix with comment
[16:15] <juliank> bug 1969394
[16:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969394 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Settings & Livepatch' button opens 'settings' tab, not livepatch" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969394
[16:16] <juliank> I think this is a desktop thing since it involes design stuff
[16:17] <juliank> bug 2026310 is an annoying thing for mkukri to figure out
[16:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2026310 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot entry named 'ubuntu' should be called 'Ubuntu'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2026310
[16:19] <juliank> So I tagged this foundations-todo
[16:19] <juliank> bug 2041491
[16:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041491 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Provide an option to avoid the yaml NM backend" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041491
[16:20] <slyon> This is a controversal issue. We should probably first find consensus within the Netplan sync.
[16:20]  * slyon removing the tag
[16:20] <juliank> thanks slyon
[16:20] <juliank> bug 2042100
[16:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2042100 in libmatch-simple-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmatch-simple-perl (libio-prompter-perl dependency)" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2042100
[16:20] <slyon> This one is already assigned (during proposed-migration). I've removed the tag, too
[16:21] <juliank> thanks again
[16:21] <juliank> 2042790
[16:21] <juliank> bug 2042790
[16:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2042790 in glibc (Ubuntu) "libc6-prof description should say what profiling features are present" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2042790
[16:22] <juliank> I think we will look at this later again there are things inflight
[16:23] <juliank> bug 2043713
[16:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2043713 in apport (Ubuntu) "armhf autopkgtests fail due to TestApportValgrind.test_valgrind_min_installed" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2043713
[16:23] <juliank> bdrung: ^
[16:24] <adrien> that actually looks like our -fstack-clash-protection issue
[16:24] <juliank> possibly
[16:24] <juliank> adrien: Can you leave something on the bug to that effect?
[16:24] <bdrung> then let's check if is will be fixed by disabling -fstack-clash-protection
[16:24] <adrien> sudden and unexplained tons of "Invalid size of write 4"
[16:24] <adrien> juliank: sure
[16:25] <mkukri> it definitely is the same thing
[16:25] <juliank> thanks
[16:25] <juliank> bug 2015538
[16:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015538 in dbus-broker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-broker" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015538
[16:25] <juliank> Nothing new there I suppose
[16:25] <slyon> nothing new.
[16:25] <slyon> The system squad could re-consider comment #3
[16:25] <slyon> and maybe cycle it back to the desktop team
[16:25] <juliank> bug 2017401
[16:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Jammy) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017401
[16:26] <juliank> I think we'll get back to this later because I don't know what we decided
[16:27] <juliank> We had meetings about it, but we didn't record the conclusion in the bug .(
[16:27] <juliank> bug 2036604
[16:27] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036604 in shim (Ubuntu) "Synchronous Exception when booting VMs via qemu-efi-aarch64" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036604
[16:27] <juliank> I'll tag this todo
[16:28] <juliank> #link https://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:28] <juliank> bug 2041518
[16:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041518 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:5:_g_log_abort:g_log_writer_default:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_standard" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041518
[16:29] <bdrung> this is for the desktop team for gtk+-3.0
[16:29] <juliank> bug 2041831
[16:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041831 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager:11:g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a:g_object_ref:gdk_event_copy:pygi_boxed_copy_in_place:arg_boxed_to_py_cleanup" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041831
[16:31] <juliank> I don't see anytzhing actionaable right now
[16:32] <juliank> bug 2041833
[16:32] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041833 in systemd (Ubuntu) "/lib/systemd/systemd-localed:6:__waitid:wait_for_terminate:wait_for_terminate_and_check:safe_fork_full:safe_fork" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041833
[16:33] <juliank> I assigned this to enr0n for further investigation
[16:33] <juliank> bug 2041834
[16:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041834 in systemd (Ubuntu) "/lib/systemd/systemd-journald:6:__futex_abstimed_wait_common64:__futex_abstimed_wait_common:__GI___futex_abstimed_wait_cancelable64:__pthread_clockjoin_ex:___pthread_join" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041834
[16:33] <juliank> I guess I'll also assign this to Nick for further investigation
[16:34] <juliank> The stack trace doesn't look unreasonable
[16:34] <juliank> OK
[16:34] <juliank> so ll is empty
[16:35] <juliank> jj is empty
[16:35] <juliank> and ff is empty
[16:35] <juliank> That's it for bugs
[16:35] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:35] <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:36] <bdrung> i'll take distro-info
[16:37] <waveform> I've still got libauthen-sasl-perl
[16:37] <juliank> libauthen-sasl-perl is with waveform
[16:37] <juliank> libio-prompter-perl  is with danilogondolfo
[16:37] <danilogondolfo> libio-prompter-perl is with me, I still need to investigate it. It's actually an mir
[16:37] <juliank> libuv1 is with ginggs
[16:37] <juliank> man-db is with dbungert
[16:38] <juliank> nvme-stas is with ogayot
[16:38] <juliank> distro-info: bdrung
[16:38] <juliank> lazy-object-proxy slyon?
[16:39] <slyon> ok
[16:39] <juliank> numpy mkukri?
[16:39] <juliank> python-apt is done actually
[16:40] <adrien> no migration for me please, my plate is full and I've been kept busy by a bunch of them this week :)
[16:40] <juliank> python-launchpadlib mateus-morais
[16:40] <juliank> adrien: you are still assigned to liblog-any-perl in jira though
[16:40] <juliank> maybe it got resolved, idk
[16:40] <mateus-morais> juliank: ack
[16:41] <juliank> python-ldap upils ?
[16:41] <bdrung> cracklib2 looks simple to fix
[16:41] <adrien> juliank: yaeh, which I plan to do in > 10 days and actually I hope it's resolved in debian by the time I get to it because I find these migrations (related to liblicense-perl) pretty weird every time
[16:41] <upils> juliank: ack
[16:42] <juliank> python-werkzeug pushkarnk?
[16:42] <pushkarnk> ack
[16:42] <juliank> abydos zhsj?
[16:43] <zhsj> ack
[16:43] <juliank> advocate would be the next one
[16:44] <juliank> advocate: cpete?
[16:44] <juliank> aioquic: dviererbe
[16:45] <juliank> aiosmtplib liushuyu
[16:45] <juliank> asgi-lifespan: sil2100
[16:45] <juliank> atropos: vpa1977
[16:46] <juliank> autoflake xypron
[16:46] <juliank> bidict enr0n
[16:47] <juliank> bmtk: juliank
[16:47] <juliank> anyone else want one?
[16:47] <juliank> Anyone wants to create an epic and copy the old ones over?
[16:48] <juliank> We need to move this to an pre-generated epic
[16:48] <juliank> #topic AOB
[16:52] <juliank> Well then let me end the IRC side
[16:52] <juliank> #endmeeting
[16:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:52:50 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-11-23-16.00.moin.txt