[06:40] <kangthecoder> i have install related questions if nyone has a moment
[06:41] <matsaman> spit it out =)
[06:43] <kangthecoder> inthe partition ool does the bootloader need to be in the same place as the windows bootloader?
[06:44] <kangthecoder> im starting school to learn coding and I figure linux is the place to be
[06:44] <toddc> kangthecoder: no bios will point to the last bootloader under normal installs
[06:45] <toddc> Grub 2 can handle most OS's including windows and OSX
[06:45] <kangthecoder> ok got it
[06:46] <kangthecoder> also as far as picking a hard drive on my pc is it safe to assume that thee larger the drive the more it will slow down th sysstem or is the file system better managed in linux cu uh.... explorer crashes way too often for me
[06:49] <toddc> kangthecoder: yes to certain extent but thee are many variables disk speed system speed swap ect. I would say a small differance given two same speed drives
[06:50] <kangthecoder> do I need any special repositories or software in order to load invidia drivers and would I be able to play any of my games from the linux side of the house or better to stick to windows for all that?
[06:51] <kangthecoder> thank you by the way you guys are great
[06:52] <toddc> After install run addl drivers to get the drivers fron nvidia
[06:52] <toddc> !nvidia | kangthecoder
[06:54] <matsaman> kangthecoder: depends on the game / how important it is to not have to switch OS to play it
[06:54] <kangthecoder> got it.
[06:54] <toddc> in the addl drivers option it will scan and use the recommeded drivers
[06:55] <kangthecoder> do you still use WINE to load windows programs or is that ancient tech now. i hven't used linux sinc my Marine Corps days almost 20 years ago
[06:55] <toddc> at least to start on occation if you have a nvidia card you need to install with a nomodset option
[06:56] <kangthecoder> about when unity first came out I think
[06:56] <toddc> I avoid wine but some like it I can usually find a open source program that work aswell or better
[06:58] <toddc> Unity had a buggy start but I grew to like it but now I Gnome
[06:58] <toddc> !unity
[06:59] <toddc> it lives on and is still availible and supported I think
[06:59] <kangthecoder> i learned something crazy about wine it was supposedly created by walmart!when computers cost like 5-8k in the 90's wallmart was able to sell them for about 3-4 hundred beause they sold them without windows and eventually launched their own linux flavor to sell on the machines. Thats what iheard at least
[07:01] <kangthecoder> I think on my VAIO laptop I had 15.04 LTS
[07:01] <toddc> https://www.winehq.org/about
[07:02] <kangthecoder> BTW look up what VAIO stands for. most igneous name ever created for a product
[07:03] <kangthecoder> im  so sad to hear that unity has shifted away from compiz
[07:03] <kangthecoder> i thoroughly enjoyed compiz fuzion
[07:06] <kangthecoder> thank you for all of the link i have them saved
[08:42] <kotgc> Hello
[08:44] <kotgc> How do I open trezor_bridge_2.0.27_amd64.deb on Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS? When I double click files are shown but nothing runs?
[08:46] <CosmicDJ> kotgc: https://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line
[08:50] <geirha> Top answer is a bit outdated. You can install deb-files with apt now, and it will pull any dependencies you need (which dpkg -i won't)
[08:52] <kotgc> geirha, so: sudo apt install trezor-bridge_2.0.27_amd64.deb ?
[08:52] <geirha> almost.  sudo apt install ./trezor-bridge_2.0.27_amd64.deb
[08:53] <kotgc> geirha, thank you, but error. I'll look it up https://dpaste.org/tiPrw
[08:53] <kotgc> CosmicDJ, thanks.
[08:55] <geirha> Mh. It says _apt user doesn't have access to your homedir.
[08:55] <kotgc> geirha, weird, it's my computer?
[08:57] <geirha> apt should've copied it to /var/archives or something in my opinion, so that _apt could've accessed it, but anyway, as a work-around you could copy it to some directory where it will have access to it. For example /tmp
[08:58] <kotgc> geirha, for me to be clear, what is 'it'? This _apt thingy or the trezor-bridge_2.0.27_amd4.deb file?
[08:59] <geirha> apt starts running as root, but spins off other processes with less privileges to do various other work. One such process runs as a special user _apt that tries to read the deb file, but can't because user _apt doesn't have read access to your homedir
[09:00] <geirha> So a misfeature of apt that it doesn't copy the file to a better location first
[09:01] <kotgc> geirha, ok, that's above my comprehension. thanks, I am unsure if I move the deb file to /tmp as a work around?
[09:14] <geirha> it's one possible work around, yes.  cp trezor-bridge_2.0.27_amd4.deb /tmp/  and then  sudo apt install /tmp/trezor-bridge_2.0.27_amd4.deb
[09:24] <kotgc> geirha, ok, apparently it was already installed? https://dpaste.org/Ss6rP
[09:26] <kotgc> Ubuntu isn't showing any new app though?
[09:38] <zetheroo> I have a my bluetooth Thinkpad X1 Headset connected to my laptop and selected in the Sound settings as Output Device, and yet the audio is still going to my laptop speakers
[10:07] <geirha> kotgc: Check what files it installed with   dpkg -L trezor-bridge
[10:08] <geirha> in particular if it installs any files with .desktop extension
[10:09] <kotgc> geirha, https://dpaste.org/B424R
[10:09] <Yakov> how to kill all gnome-terminal process and shut down terminals? tried to locate all processes by ps -e 8, filter by gnome-termonal, kill -9 'process', it kills process, but never shuts terminal, any advise?
[10:09] <kotgc> geirha, nope, maybe Trezor is faulty, I can take i tup with them.
[10:10] <zetheroo> So for some reason Chrome is outputting audio to my laptop speakers instead of to my bluetooth headset
[10:11] <geirha> kotgc: Well, there's no desktop entries; it appears to install it as a systemd service, so no gui. Perhaps the daemon has a web interface
[10:12] <geirha> or maybe you're supposed to install another package for the gui bit
[10:12] <kotgc> geirha, thx, I'll take it up with Trezor. It's only been about a year to try and make the wallet work, this is just another troubleshooting step.
[10:12] <kotgc> geirha, maybe, but the instructions aren't clear.
[10:26] <Yakov> can any one share some clue pls?
[11:11] <dcroft> Hi, sorry, i was using the wrong charset
[11:15] <dcroft> So, where can I find the DKMS subchannel
[11:21] <EriC^^> Yakov: "pkill gnome-terminal" ?
[11:31] <dcroft> sudo i
[11:31] <dcroft> apt install dkms \of course,
[12:51] <lilp> Hi everybody,
[12:51] <lilp> I've issue with my certificat renew and need help to solve it.
[12:51] <lilp> My domain is: Renew my certificate letsencrypt.
[12:51] <lilp> I ran this command:certbot certonly --standalone -d mydomain -v
[12:51] <lilp> It produced this output: 2023-11-23 12:40:31,151:DEBUG:certbot._internal.main:certbot version: 1.19.020 - Pastebin.com
[12:51] <lilp> My web server is (include version): Nginx 1.14.2
[12:53] <lilp> Hi everybody,I've issue with my certificat renew and need help to solve it. My domain is: Renew my certificate letsencrypt. I ran this command:certbot certonly --standalone -d mydomain -v It produced this output: 2023-11-23 12:40:31,151:DEBUG:certbot._internal.main:certbot version: 1.19.020 - Pastebin.com My web server is (include version):
[12:53] <lilp> Nginx 1.14.2 The operating system my web server runs on is (include version): Host : Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) Proxmox CT The version of my client is certbot 1.19.0 Thanks for your help.
[12:57] <tomreyn> lilp: You're seeking help with the certbot software on the Debian Linux distribution. This IRC channel is about the ubuntu Linux distribution.
[12:58] <lilp> sORRY
[12:58] <lilp> Sorry*
[13:01] <ogra> i bet the debian people will just point that person to certbot support anyway 🙂
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:35] <termi> hello all
[13:36] <termi> who use ubuntu server as a vm with gpu passtrhough and containerd host ?
[13:45] <CosmicDJ> termi: maybe you should ask the actual question and not some metaquestions nobody will answer...
[14:21] <Guest19> Can someone help me diagnose a weird issue where if i start my latop i cant ssh into it but after like 15 minutes i can without changing anything?
[14:22] <Guest19> systemctl status sshd says its active even while  cant coonect
[14:22] <Guest19> and ufw disable has not effect
[14:30] <CosmicDJ> Guest19: can you ping your host (maybe your DHCP is slow)? is DNS working (host resolution not working can lead to long timeouts...)?
[14:33] <Guest19> No i cant ping it either
[14:36] <Guest19> im not sure about dns do i have it without cnfiguring it?
[14:50] <ph88> on previous versions of ubuntu when i installed wine the wine programs would automatically show up as new apps. I see that there is a .Desktop file generated but when i click on that they open as text file. How do i make my wine programs launchable as before ?
[15:02] <oxfuxxx> ph88 install qt4wine and try to open it with that.
[15:02] <oxfuxxx> there is the need for a wine handler launcher otherwise you have to make the .desktop yourself, modify them.
[15:03] <ph88> the .Desktop files are there but they are not showing up as apps
[15:04] <ph88> i will install qt4wine see what it does
[15:04] <Guest19> nmcli device show <interfacename> | grep IP4.DNS only show my man router
[15:05] <Guest19> main*
[15:06] <Guest19> I have waited long enough so its working now, rebooting has no effect, i will have to see tommorow if the dns shows up t
[15:09] <ph88> oxfuxxx, i don't find an ubuntu package of qt4wine
[15:10] <oxfuxxx> ph88 it might be named differently, but look for wine launcher, cause i don't have ubuntu off the hands.
[15:10] <ph88> oxfuxxx, here it says i just need a .Desktop file https://askubuntu.com/a/139530 which i already have
[15:11] <ph88> i don't think it's a wine problem but a problem of the Desktop files not launching and opening in text editor instead
[15:21] <kostkon> ph88, have you made them executable?
[15:23] <ph88> kostkon, no
[17:24] <barnex> Hi. I'm having disk/ZFS trouble - one of my disks is faulted with "too many errors". This goes away after a bunch of reboots usually and the data seems fine. The "faulty" disk has recently (after this has happened for the first time) completed both short and extended smart tests and reports good health. Here's the dmesg, full of errors: https://dpaste.com/7QREK8A3G.txt
[17:25] <barnex> I imagine it's a hardware issue, but I'm not sure which hardware and how to diagnose further
[17:34] <barnex> (rejoined as Barnex_mobile as I want to reboot this pc and get my pool back)
[17:50] <CosmicDJ> Barnex_mobile: did you try changing the cable/sata port?
[17:56] <Barnex_mobile> CosmicDJ: did it just now, as it's the same disk failing every time I switched the cables.l, so that I know it's cable related if the other fails
[17:57] <Barnex_mobile> Gonna run memtest overnight too probably, won't hurt and it's a thing I actually know how to do :)
[18:18] <Yakov> how to kill all gnome-terminal process and shut down terminals? tried to locate all processes by ps -e 8, filter by gnome-termonal, kill -9 'process', it kills process, but never shuts terminal, any advise? Please note, I only need to kill all terminals, excluding one particular instance
[18:20] <ecapi_> ik
[19:00] <sem> hmm, i changed my dns server in the gui for my Wifi, but dns leak shows i'm still using the old dns...
[19:00] <sem> oh i had to toggle wifi off and on again
[19:19] <Yakov> any one can advise? I feel pretty stuck now
[19:42] <loswedseded> do you know why supertuxkart' developers chose to use apt for a newer version of the game instead of snap? I thought apt was being deprecated
[19:43] <rbox> deprecated
[19:43] <rbox> rofl
[19:43] <Maik> apt is still a thing and a lot of software that is installed are still .deb files
[19:45] <Maik> loswedseded also.... Debian, on which Ubuntu is based,  still uses apt.
[19:49] <tarzeau> Maik: and probably will, forever
[20:39] <squarecircle> heyo. I set up a softrouter with ipv4_forward and iptables masquerading and natting and pinging the outside works fine.
[20:40] <squarecircle> so I can ping 9.9.9.9. But tracerouting or doing apt update fails.
[20:40] <squarecircle> any idea whats failing here?
[20:49] <seere> If ping works, ICMP in/out is working. What are your rules for TCP and UDP?
[20:50] <seere> Assuming "pinging the outside" means: pinging from inside <-> router <-> the world.
[20:57] <migs> hello
[21:08] <squarecircle> seere: I did not specify more rules
[21:11] <seere> squarecircle: so you set net.ipv4.ip_forward and what rules for (nf|ip)_tables for the NAT/masquerading on your router?
[21:12] <squarecircle> seere: yes ip_forward is set to 1
[21:13] <seere> And the rules for NAT are...
[21:13] <squarecircle> seere: second please :)
[21:15] <squarecircle> seere: https://bpa.st/3APA
[21:29] <seere> what is wg-mullvad?
[21:30] <squarecircle> the wireguard tun interface provided by the mullvad app
[21:30] <seere> are these the only rules? Something set by some "firewall"?
[21:31] <squarecircle> there is no firewall stuff set by me
[21:32] <seere> and "iptables -L" does support this?
[21:34] <seere> squarecircle: Don't know about "mullvad". Except that rule 6 is not needed for routing and 7 supercedes 3 this seems valid.
[21:34] <squarecircle> iptables -L doesn't show anything beside what I added
[21:41] <seere> I would now check with tcpdump/tshark/wireshark what happens on enp1s0 and wg-mullvad to see the packets flowing and if responses arive for TCP/HTTP to see where in the flow something gets lost.
[21:41] <seere> squarecircle: on your router of course.
[21:48] <squarecircle> Ok. That will get interesting. I have no clue how to operate tcpdump ^^
[23:16] <bray90820> ld I install wine on ubunt 22.04
[23:17] <bray90820> *How would I
[23:18] <rbox> with apt
[23:18] <rbox> the same way you install anything
[23:18] <genii> !info wine jammy
[23:19] <genii> Enable universe repository frist
[23:25] <bray90820> Well I get this error after doing the apt-get
[23:25] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/u6QwCx7j
[23:27] <rbox> hwo d id you breka your system that bad
[23:28] <rbox> what does 'apt policy wine32' say
[23:29] <genii> bray90820: sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get --fix-broken
[23:30] <genii> ( or just try the second one first and see if it can resolve all the broken dependencies first)
[23:33] <bray90820> genii: Command line option --fix-broken is not understood in combination with the other options
[23:35] <genii> Ah right, I think it needs to be used with upgrade, like sudo apt-get upgrade -f   (or long form given earlier of --fix-broken)
[23:35] <genii> ..been a while since I needed to remember the syntax
[23:37] <tomreyn> "install", maybe "upgrade" works, too
[23:39] <genii> Yeah, I'm not sure what the viable ones would be to enable -f but likely at least upgrade
[23:39] <bray90820> Idk ether
[23:39] <bray90820> I trued a lot of things nothing woerked
[23:44] <genii> bray90820: If you didn't run (sudo) apt-get update before installing wine/wine32 it likely installed an older version with possibly missing other deps .. if this is the only case and not conflicting repositories /PPAs installed or manually installed other things with overlapping libraries, then doing the sudo apt-get upgrade -f   ( or install -f ) should sort out the libs to ones which the system can make sense of. Then doing an sudo apt-get update ..
[23:44] <genii> will get the actual latest list. Doing sudo apt-get install --reinstall wine   or suo apt-get install --reinstall wine32   ..would attempt overwriting with newest
[23:44]  * genii wanders back to coffeepot
[23:49] <bray90820> genii: I did try that still didn't work
[23:49] <genii> bray90820: Sounds like maybe you have custom repositories installed then which could be conflicting
[23:50] <bray90820> I have no irea
[23:50] <genii> ( or manually installed something from a .tar.gz or similar)
[23:50] <bray90820> people in #winehqae helping me so it's fine
[23:54] <genii> Hm, the specific thing of wine32 is making me wonder if multiarch is still enabled by default these days for both 32 and 64 or only 64 now that most flavours have obsoleted their 32 bit variants
[23:55] <bray90820> genii: Well this was from august
[23:55] <bray90820> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/08/ubuntu-23-04-broke-32-bit-support
[23:57] <bray90820> Oh wait no I'm running 22.04
[23:58] <bray90820> Disregard that link