[00:00] <genii> bray90820: Does:dpkg --print-foreign-architectures    result in: i386    ?
[00:01] <bray90820> genii: Can you send that again without pinging me
[00:02] <genii> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[00:02] <bray90820> it says i386
[00:02] <bray90820> So yes it's installed
[00:02] <genii> OK, so you have multilib
[00:04] <bray90820> So anything else I can try?
[00:05] <genii> Ideally you want to get the system in a state first where it's not complaining of broken packages
[00:07] <genii> Hm, I think the syntax is the -f before the directive ( of upgrade/install/whatever)
[00:08] <genii> I think try: sudo apt-get  -f install and see if it does anything
[00:08] <bray90820> genii: Do you mean sudo apt-get install -f
[00:09] <genii> bray90820: Try putting the -f before the  "install" this time, order might matter in this case
[00:09] <bray90820> Both commands run but none of them install anything
[00:11] <genii> Well, they wouldn't. Did you run recently the: sudo apt-get upgrade    ..?
[00:12] <genii> need coffee back in a bit
[00:12] <bray90820> I did yes
[00:15] <genii> Did it complain about packages not able to be installed when you ran sudo apt-get upgrade ...or did it complete without groaning/errors
[00:15] <bray90820> No
[00:15] <genii> So it complained?
[00:16] <bray90820> Oh sorry It compleated without errors
[00:17] <genii> OK, good. Then try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     ...and see if that finishes without a problem
[00:18] <genii> ..upgrade bumps application versions up to the top minor revision of the major version they are already at, dist-upgrade is able to bump major version numbers of an application
[00:33]  * genii sips fresh coffee
[00:35] <ooberbanana> coffee makes me sleepy..  well one cup does.... more than one then i am up all night.
[00:36] <genii> bray90820: Did you run the dist-upgrade, and if so, did it complete successfully
[00:36] <bray90820> I did run that and it did run sucessfully
[00:37] <genii> Good
[00:38] <bray90820> But i still get errors when trying to install wine32
[00:40] <genii> bray90820: Please pastebin the output and give us the link
[00:41] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/vUCXTJx0
[00:42] <bray90820> Oh shit I think I broke it
[00:43] <genii> That makes little sense because if those packages are broken then sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should never have successfully completed without errors
[00:43] <bray90820> That's wjat I was thinking
[00:43] <genii> hm
[00:44] <genii> !info libselinux1 jammy
[00:45] <genii> that package seems to figure prominently but in your paste it's complaining of a much lower version than what is available
[00:46] <bray90820> Hum
[00:46] <genii> what does: apt-cache policy libselinux1    ...report?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> bray90820: apt policy libselinux1 ??
[00:46] <bray90820> I'll do that in a few minutes I kinda broke spmething so letting things fix themselves
[00:46] <bray90820> Oh wait nevermind
[00:47] <genii> Bashing-om: Sometimes I forget that apt-cahce and apt-get are now just amalgamated into a single apt command ....
[00:47] <bray90820> Bashing-om: Can you send the command without pinging me?
[00:47] <Bashing-om> apt policy libselinux1
[00:48] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/TbE48Q3i
[00:49] <Bashing-om> genii: Took me too a while to wean off apt-get --- but apt-get still has it uses :D
[00:50] <genii> Maybe after selinux upgrades it needs a reboot to be the actual running version
[00:50] <genii> Otherwise I can't see why it complains it needs a version higher than 3.1
[00:51] <Bashing-om> genii: A thought - corrupted mergelist ?
[00:51] <genii> That would suck :-/
[00:55] <bray90820> Anyone know what I should do next?
[00:56] <genii> Bashing-om: Googling stuff like "restarting selinux without rebooting" lead me to believe a reboot is required
[00:57] <genii> bray##### I would suggest a reboot and return here after
[01:00] <Bashing-om> genii: Agreed - reboot resets lots of libs :D
[01:01] <Bashing-om> bray90820: ^^ when you come back -- might be instructive to see ; dpkg -l libc6:i386 .
[01:02] <bray90820> Can you send me that command without the ping?
[01:03] <Bashing-om> dpkg -l libc6:i386
[01:03] <bray90820> Thamks
[01:03] <bray90820> I'll try the command in a minute
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !info libc6:i386 jammy
[01:07] <genii> bray90820: The point of directing a particular command to a particular user is partly so that other users in the channel know who it's for, and once in a while a user just entering could enter the command idly. If the command is dangerous this could end badly
[01:08] <genii> ( also the point of directing a message to a specific user is to make sure they see it by being highlighted/pinged/otherwise annoyed) lol
[01:10] <bray90820> Welp now the desktop won't evben boot just stuck at the ubuntu logo
[01:10] <bray90820> I can ping it tho
[01:13] <Bashing-om> bray90820: A thought: From grub - advanced options >> boot an older kernel ?
[01:15] <bray90820> Yeah I'll try that... if I can
[01:19] <bray90820> Ugh nope that won't work because of my stuped GPU not supporting BIOS
[01:23] <Bashing-om> bray90820: From grub >> Recovery mode ?
[01:23] <bray90820> Yeah it's my stupid GPU
[01:23] <bray90820> I'm getting an upgrade tomorrow tho so it will actually work properly
[04:13] <loganlee> hello $ ping -c 3 logan-swift.local works but not $ ping -c 3 logan-swift
[04:13] <loganlee> i want ping -c 3 logan-swift to point to the same machine 192.168.0.150
[06:11] <mmj> Can I install Ubuntu on a laptop with GTX1650 Mobile graphics card
[06:18] <guiverc> mmj, you can try before installing on hardware;  https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[06:19] <toddc> !nvidia | mmj
[06:19] <guiverc> do note, the kernel stack provide on an ISO for an LTS changes; I have some old hardware that performs well on GA or older kernel stacks but can have issue on newer stacks; so often I test a number of ISOs of a LTS release & get different results (but that tells me which will work with my hardware!)
[06:58] <Biapy> hi, i'm running a dist upgrade from jammy (without firefox snap) to mantic, and the upgrade process is stalled on "Unpacking firefox (amd64)" with message "Checking connectivity with the snap store" . How can i unstall it
[07:20] <joekn> I had issues with my NVIDIA drivers for a GTX 3050 TI series
[07:20] <joekn> had to disable wayland and revert to 470 driver to get 4 monitors
[08:10] <alocer> Hello Trying to install Ubuntu on G10 with ubuntu jammy from ubuntu.com, i get usb device is not authenticated. is there any way to install with secure boot enabled?
[08:13] <ogra> Biapy, it is part of ubuntu-desktop, so the updater will indeed try to install it (and should succeed unless you did any hacks that prevent this) ... just remove it after the upgrade again
[08:29] <Biapy> ogra: this is not the issue... the issue is that when network fails during installation, snap stall because it can't connect to the snap store... a good kill "solved" the thing.. but............
[08:30] <ogra> Biapy, ah ... so you should probably file a bug ... ubuntu-bug snapd ... or ubuntu-bug update-manager
[08:30] <ogra> (though how do you get your debs for that update when not online ???)
[08:30] <Biapy> ogra, if I have time after solving the mess
[08:31] <Biapy> ogra: I was online  when starting the install, the network was brought down during the deb packages installation (a dns issue i think)
[08:53] <ogra> Biapy, ah, that is definitely an update-manager bug
[09:26] <oxfuxxx> hi
[09:26] <oxfuxxx> !help
[10:18] <inckie> I'm facing an issue with my workplace's recently updated Cisco VPN server. Since the update, I can no longer connect using Network Manager / OpenConnect in Ubuntu 22.04. It seems there are changes to the AnyConnect protocol, as discussed here: https://gitlab.com/openconnect/openconnect/-/issues/665
[10:18] <inckie> Additionally, a bug report was filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openconnect/+bug/2039070, but it has been marked as invalid.
[10:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 665 in openconnect/openconnect "Send user-agent string compatible with newer Cisco servers" [Opened]
[10:18] <inckie> Is there a way to update network-manager-openconnect to a version where this issue is resolved, or could someone suggest an alternative solution? Thanks in advance!
[10:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2039070 in network-manager-openconnect (Ubuntu) "[BPO] network-manager-openconnect(-gnome)/1.2.8-3 from lunar to jammy" [Undecided, Invalid]
[10:18] <zetheroo> What's to be done about the following error msg? 'the compiler differs from the one used to build the kernel'
[10:19] <elias_a> zetheroo: What are you trying to do?
[10:19] <zetheroo> Run ESET.
[10:20] <elias_a> zetheroo: What is ESET?
[10:20] <cbreak> inckie: --useragent=AnyConnect on the openconnect cli doesn't help?
[10:20] <zetheroo> here is the full output https://pastebin.com/0mrVMW7X
[10:21] <inckie> cbreak most likely, I'm referring to the GUI, where setting useragent is not an option
[10:21] <elias_a> zetheroo: Seems like you have no GCC installed. Is this correct?
[10:22] <zetheroo> I don't know. It's a "fresh install" of Ubuntu 22.04
[10:23] <elias_a> zetheroo: You are not running software. You are trying to install it. Check the needed dependencies, install them and try again.
[10:24] <zetheroo> The software is already installed, but won't start https://pastebin.com/q8vHiCmB
[10:27] <imi> hi, what does atop do? is it safe to apt purge atop?
[10:29] <inckie> Given that the bug report network-manager-openconnect bug report found on Launchpad was marked as invalid regarding useragent issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openconnect/+bug/2039070. I'm wondering about the proper procedure for reporting such issues. Could there have been a misunderstanding or a mistake in marking
[10:29] <inckie> this report as 'invalid'? Any guidance on this matter would be highly appreciated.
[10:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2039070 in network-manager-openconnect (Ubuntu) "[BPO] network-manager-openconnect(-gnome)/1.2.8-3 from lunar to jammy" [Undecided, Invalid]
[10:35] <elias_a> zetheroo: I have no clue with this information. Clam antivirus works out of the box if that would suffice.
[10:48] <zetheroo> I uninstalled and reinstalled the software. Still I get this 'compiler differs' error
[11:14] <tuxinator> Hi guys, at the moment i am trying to understand how journald sends the stuff to syslog on Ubuntu/Kubuntu, any hint on it? journald seems to not have the forwardtosyslog option set by default
[11:30] <zetheroo> elias_a: the solution was to install gcc-12 :)
[11:43] <elias_a> zetheroo: Well I said you don't seem to have GCC installed. :P
[11:43] <elias_a> zetheroo: Good you got it sorted. :)
[11:44] <zetheroo> Yes, thanks!
[11:47] <elias_a> zetheroo: If you really are virus scanning files it would be nice how ESET compares to ClamAV. :)
[11:48] <zetheroo> We need something which is centrally managed, which is the main reason we are not using ClamAV
[11:49] <elias_a> I don't do regular scanning. Mostly when I am helping some poor devil windows user to copy OS and data to a new, bigger SSD...
[11:55] <ben_>  hi all
[11:58] <ben_> hi zw1d
[12:01] <zw1d> Hi ben_
[12:01] <zw1d> _KaszpiR_:  well well well
[12:01] <ben_> :)
[12:15] <zetheroo> Since about a week the system sound comes out of my laptop speakers instead of my BT headset.
[12:15] <zetheroo> But if I make a call the audio output comes through the headset
[12:16] <zetheroo> Why?
[12:16] <zetheroo> Settings > Sound > Output Device = BT headset
[12:44] <Negao_bolado> Bom dia mundo
[12:45] <Negao_bolado> cade o polvo?
[12:50] <xangua> !pt | Negao_bolado
[13:17] <ph88> how can i put a window in another workspace ?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:13] <ph88> when i try to install this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/3737/hue-lights/ it says Open With.. No Apps Available. I'm on ubuntu 23.10 this used to work on 22.04 how can i make it work ?
[14:32] <dumbledoor> Is there a method like invisible() instead of hide() that i can use in this gnome extension: https://pastebin.com/EpNNCYSS The goal is to hide the time but still let the calendar/notifications be accessible by click.
[14:35] <dumbledoor> in gnome
[14:35] <nteodosio> dumbledoor, you might get faster assistance in #gnome.
[15:31] <neteffect> hi happy friday.  say i can't get my cd rom to work after i upgraded
[15:33] <neteffect> its a usb external dvd drive
[15:34] <neteffect> i do blkid and i do not see my cd rom drive
[15:35] <neteffect> when i do sudo lshw -class disk, i do see my cdrom! it even says itś /dev/sr0
[15:37] <neteffect> lsblk doesn´t show /dev/sr0
[15:37] <neteffect> oh now it does
[15:41] <neteffect> fdisk -l doesnt show my cdrom drive sr0
[15:43] <Menzador> neteffect: parted?
[15:43] <neteffect> hi
[15:44] <neteffect> parted i dunno
[15:44] <Menzador> `sudo parted -l`
[15:44] <neteffect> k
[15:47] <neteffect> ty
[15:48] <neteffect> i inserted a working cd into the internal and i see that is wroking now.
[15:48] <neteffect> is it possible to use external usb cdrom drive in ubuntu?
[15:48] <Menzador> yes?
[15:49] <neteffect> ok
[15:50] <neteffect> will my usb cdrom be sr1?
[15:54] <Menzador> It could be, depending on how many optical drives are already installed
[15:55] <BluesKaj> neteffect, sudo blkid should list all connected drives with a descrption
[15:56] <neteffect> ok i check
[15:58] <neteffect> i see an sr0 in blkid
[15:59] <neteffect> i see an sr0 in blkid
[16:00] <neteffect> itś a usb cdrom
[16:00] <neteffect> so it wont be sr device will it
[16:01] <BluesKaj> disconnect the cdrom and run blkid again to see if it's listed or not
[16:02] <neteffect> ok
[16:02] <neteffect> ok i see an sr0, and that is the internal drive, as it has a disk in there I see
[16:03] <BluesKaj> right
[16:05] <neteffect> plug the usb back in and do blkid again?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> yes, and make sure you a disk in it
[16:05] <neteffect> am i looking for sr1?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> have
[16:05] <neteffect> ok disk in it
[16:06] <BluesKaj> that depends
[16:07] <neteffect> oh
[16:07] <BluesKaj> is there a disk in the internal cdrom drive
[16:08] <neteffect> yes and it is valid
[16:08] <neteffect> it is a readable disk
[16:08] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:09] <BluesKaj> blkid should show both cdroms with loaded disks
[16:09] <neteffect> i only see the sr0
[16:09] <zetheroo> Any idea why my output audio for Chrome is going to my laptop speakers instead of to my bluetooth headset?
[16:11] <jeremy31> zetheroo: Try switching it back and forth in sound settings, make sure BT output is A2DP
[16:14] <zetheroo> jeremy31: really strange - I had it on A2DP but the audio was terrible - super quiet and scratchy
[16:14] <zetheroo> I switched it back to laptop speakers and then back again to bt headset and now it's suddenly working
[16:15] <zetheroo> I've gotten the sense since a while that the info in the settings doesn't always match the actual mode the headset is in
[16:15] <zetheroo> anyway, it's working again ... for now
[16:15] <neteffect> i tried the command sudo lsusb and i did not see my usb cdrom drive
[16:16] <neteffect> wow
[16:16] <neteffect> i think it just came online
[16:16] <neteffect> yeah its working
[16:16] <neteffect> thank you BluesKaj
[16:16] <neteffect> thank you Menzador
[16:17] <neteffect> for the record i kept messing around with inserting disks and turning the drive on and off and reinserting the usb cord.  I do not know what ultimately caused the drive to be recognized.  This was an external usb cd drive.
[16:17] <neteffect> ty amazing to have it working as i will eventually need it
[16:20] <BluesKaj> neteffect, I use a usb outboard drive that has all my media stuff on it ... use it's UUID to list it in /etc/fstab
[16:38] <Crin> Can someone hep me with a weird issue where i can't SSH into my ubuntu machine right after booting it up, but if i wait 20 minutes and do nothing it fixes itself iand i can ssh into it?
[16:38] <rbox> what does "i can't ssh" mean
[16:38] <rbox> what does the journal say in those 20 minutes
[16:39] <Crin> 1: connect to it through ssh client
[16:42] <Habbie> how does (1) fail?
[16:44] <Crin> im trying to find that out
[16:44] <Crin> the issue is after it resolves itself it wont come back untill the next day
[16:45] <Crin> even after a reboot
[16:45] <Crin> but it oes come back every day
[16:48] <rbox> sounds like a network issue then
[16:48] <rbox> not a linux issue
[16:50] <Crin> maybe but there mus be a way to tell
[16:50] <iomari891> greetings, when checking my boot.log after booting, I see about 15 error lines like "Failed to mount snap-battalion-27.mount - Mount unit for battalion, revision 27".
[16:51] <iomari891> Different snap mounts of course.
[16:52] <rbox> sure, answer those 2 questions
[16:53] <ogra> Crin, what ubuntu version ?
[16:53] <ogra> i.e. see https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/sshd-now-uses-socket-based-activation-ubuntu-22-10-and-later/30189
[16:57] <Crin> 22:04 LTS
[17:00] <Crin> interesting thanks
[17:02] <iomari891> https://pastebin.com/fPk81
[17:19] <kooldaddy> im running kubuntu and i have no sound when playin a game but do have sound when watching youtube thanks
[17:22] <kooldaddy> i did have sound at one time it just quit working last night
[17:25] <cicada_> hello
[17:27] <kooldaddy> the sound is working on my laptop which im using linux mint
[18:58] <rogier> So I got a nice mid 2011 27inch imac from marktplaats for not to much money. Good deal 32GB, SSD. Used macOS for a day and fuck it. Installed Ubuntu based KDE Neon on it. Everything works perfect
[18:59] <rogier> Only brightness controll doesn't work. Anyone has an idea how to fix this?
[19:00] <ph88> My screen freezes on ubuntu 23.10 regurlarly. On windows i didn´t have problem. Is there anything i can do to troubleshoot the problem ?
[19:01] <rfm> rogier, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1295423/ubuntu-20-04-on-imac-mid-2011-cant-adjust-brightness has a bunch of suggested fixes (most of which seem to be kernel/driver based so would apply even in later ubuntu versions)
[19:06] <lavaball> can i upgrade to newest release via ssh? i did it once and it said ssh wasn't a good idea.
[19:10] <johnfg> hi folks
[19:11] <johnfg> Is it best to use clonezilla from a usb stick?  If so, what is the pkg that can be installed on the system?
[19:11] <rfm> lavaball, the thing is if there is any problem, you can end up being disconnected and not able to get back it, thus a bricked system.
[19:12] <rfm> lavaball, at one time people would run the upgrade in a tmux/screen session so they could reconnect, but this was by no means perfect
[19:14] <ioria> it also opens the session in a new port iirc, so needs to disable fw or add rule
[19:21] <rogier> I need to create a Win 10 USB stick on Ubuntu. Whats a good program. I prefer gui
[19:24] <rud0lf> WoeUSB, rogier
[19:35] <johnfg> Quit
[19:49] <bruska> Hello?
[19:49] <topcat001> rogier: Take a look at this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1295423/ubuntu-20-04-on-imac-mid-2011-cant-adjust-brightness
[19:50] <topcat001> You might need to try more than one approach
[19:55] <ph88> How can i switch to a different kernel version ?
[19:55] <rbox> what version do yo uwant to switch to
[19:58] <ph88> 6.5.3  6.5.5  6.4.16 6.1.53 6.5.12 6.6.2 6.7-rc2
[19:59] <genii> !mainline
[19:59] <ph88> 6.1.63 as well
[20:00] <rbox> you want to switch to 8 kernels?
[20:00] <ph88> if i install from the Mainline PPA can i then later go back to the normal kernel that gets security updates
[20:00] <ph88> rbox, yes one after the other of course
[20:01] <rbox> installing extra packages doesnt change what you can do in the future
[20:01] <lavaball> rfm, so ubuntu isn't meant for remote servers then? or how is that supposed to work?
[20:02] <ph88> rbox, on that linke genii send it says therefore if you install them manually via the Mainline PPA, you will never receive a security update or patch for that version.
[20:06] <rbox> yes, for that version
[20:06] <rbox> you are instlaling a specific version
[20:06] <rbox> that doesnt effect other things you have
[20:06] <genii> That's correct. You'd need to uninstall the mainline kernel(s) manually and reboot to to the default system kernel before it would then be able to update pathches or newer default kernels
[20:07] <rfm> lavaball, it's the same problem with remote systems regardless of OS; either you need a way of accessing the console remotely, a way of cloning the remote system to upgrade it so can restart on failure, or procedures to configure a new install remote system (and just never do release upgrades.)
[20:08] <ph88> rbox, how do i go back to the normal version after that ?
[20:08] <genii> When the system checks for updates and sees a later version kernel installed than one it has patches for or it has a lower versioned kernel available to upgrade to, it won't do those updates because it sees you have one later than what it has available
[20:09] <ph88> oh ok so multiple versions of kernels exist alongside each other and then i would have to uninstall the mainline versions and the default version would work as before ?
[20:09] <genii> ph88: Once you've installed a deb file manually, the system can uninstall it using apt
[20:10] <genii> ph88: You could still boot to the older default kernel but updates to kernels higher than that one but lower than the mainline kernel you install will not be applied
[20:11] <genii> ( until you uninstall the mainline kernel, reboot to the old one, ane runn all the standard updates)
[20:13] <ph88> sounds good
[20:20] <ph88> how do i put a window on another desktop ?
[20:23] <ph88> oh i think i found it ctrl + shift + alt + arrow left or right
[20:23] <ph88> and super + shift + arrow left or right does the same
[20:24] <ph88> when i try to install this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/3737/hue-lights/ it says Open With.. No Apps Available. I'm on ubuntu 23.10 this used to work on 22.04 how can i make it work ?
[20:45] <tomreyn> ph88: normally, all you'd need to do is to toggle the on/off switch at https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/3737/hue-lights/
[20:45] <ph88> oh my bad i didn't install the browser extension
[20:46] <tomreyn> i think this is installed by default
[20:47] <ph88> i used the minimal installation option
[20:47] <tomreyn> another option would be to place the downloaded file in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
[20:48] <tomreyn> hmm, yes, maybe minimal would cause this
[20:49] <puff`> Afternoon.  I'm at my cousin's house and something weird is going on with the wifi.  I can connect my laptop (ubuntu 20.04.1) to the wifi but I can't get on the internet.
[20:49] <puff`> I can connect my android phone to the wifi, and get to the internet, and when I put my android phone in hotspot mode and connect my laptop to the hotspot, I can get on the internet.
[20:51] <ph88> oh i love this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6382/week-start-modifier/
[20:51] <ph88> puff`, can you try ping 1.1.1.1
[20:52] <puff`> ph88: I can disconnect from my hotspot, connect directly to the wifi, and try that.
[20:52] <ph88> yes directly connect to wifi then ping 1.1.1.1
[20:54] <puff`> Hm, I get a response from 1.1.1.1, so I guess that suggests something weird with the DNS server.
[20:54] <puff`> 11.06ms ping time.
[20:55] <tomreyn> and when you ping one.one.one.one you get?
[20:55] <lavaball> rfm, i updte other systems all the time. no issues. so this is just being overcautious. well, thanks for explainin.
[20:55] <lavaball> g
[20:57] <puff> tomreyn: ping: one.one.one.one: Temporary failure in name resolution
[20:57] <tomreyn> puff: so you were right, it's a resolver issue
[20:58] <tomreyn> you could override the resolver in the wireless connection profile, setting it to, e.g., 1.1.1.1
[21:05] <ph88> alt + ` to switch windows of the same application does not work for me in ubuntu 23.10. I already tried super + ` .. does someone know a fix for this ?
[21:26] <puff> Hm, this is annoying.  Setting the DNS to 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 seemed to work for a bit, then didn't.  I'm not sure if that's some sort of false positive because I'm switching between the house wifi and my android hotspot.
[21:27] <puff> I popped up settings/network, selected the wifi network here, clicked the tab for IPv4 and edited the DNS field, left the buttons on "Automatic (DHCP)" and DNS: Automatic.  Did the same on the IPv6 tabs.
[21:28] <puff> Just did it again, although, oddly, it's not turning the "Apply" button green.
[21:32] <tomreyn> you're not overriding the DHCP provided DNS this way
[21:34] <tomreyn> disable the "automatic" switch on the DNS line, "apply" to close the window and reconnect by clicking on the wireless connection
[21:34] <tomreyn> disable the "automatic" switch on the DNS line, "apply" to close the window and reconnect by clicking on the wireless connection
[21:34] <puff``> tomreyn: Thanks.
[21:41] <puff> Hm, this is rather crazy making.
[21:41] <puff> It sorta seems to work, but then not.
[21:42] <puff> I originally set the dns to:8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[21:43] <puff> Could the space cause a problem? I've tried multiple times to edit and remove the space, then click "Apply" (which does turn green after I edit it, in the IPv4 tab but not in the IPv6 tab). But it doesn't seem to actually save it.
[21:51] <puff> Okay, I *think* it's working now. I realized one red herring is that I apparently can only connect to libera when I'm on my android phone hotspot (to be clear, it's ubuntu laptop -> android hotspot -> house wifi) with whatever default DNS, rather than connected directly to the house wifi with the DNS overridden (to 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4).  Weird.
[21:53] <WaV> In regards to connecting to the home wifi, I don't think phone hotspots work that way, but I could be wrong. I think when you connect to the phone hotspot, it uses the cell connection for your Internet, not whatever WiFi network the phone was connected to.
[21:54] <ben_> hi all
[21:54] <matsaman> heyo
[21:57] <puff> WaV: Good question, all I can say is that on the Internet dropdown, the phone says it's on the wifi.  I don't know if the phone hotspot routes through the wifi or not. I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is "not".
[21:57] <puff> Thanks again folks, guess I'll have to live without IRC until I get home.
[22:50] <bray90820> Hey if I were to change my CPU and motherboard could I boot ubuntu properly still or would I get errors?
[22:54] <tomreyn> if it's the same architecture and boot mode, and you configured your mainboard firmware to boot from the same disk / ESP, it should still boot.
[22:57] <bray90820> Cool
[22:57] <bray90820> Thanks
[23:27] <webchat3> WHILE INSTALLING UBUNTU, AS SOON AS I TRY  TO BOOT THE USB FROM BIOS AND SELECT UBUNTU. IT TURNS BLACK AND REMAINS BLACK. I HAVE ALIENWARE M16. RTX4070
[23:29] <tomreyn> webchat3: hi there. please disable caps lock first of all.
[23:29] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version are you trying to install?
[23:29] <webchat3> 20.04
[23:30] <tomreyn> i'm guessing this can be too old, try a newer release
[23:30] <webchat3> let me try installing the newer version.
[23:31] <tomreyn> you may also need to install with the failsafe graphics option
[23:32] <webchat3> will this option come while installing ubuntu?
[23:32] <tomreyn> it should be on the first screen which says "Grub"
[23:33] <webchat3> i will try installing and come back in 10 mins
[23:33] <robin0800> you may need to boot in uefi mode and not bios
[23:35] <tomreyn> a bios update can also help
[23:37] <webchat3> it is in uefi mode. i press f12 option pop up for me choose which drive i have to boot. i select USB drive. that is it right?
[23:38] <tomreyn> probably
[23:39] <robin0800> when I do it has uefi in front of the usb
[23:39] <tomreyn> you could disable compatibility support mode/module in bios, if you hae this setting, to be sure you only have uefi targets listed on the boot menu
[23:47] <tomreyn> make sure "hybrid graphics" is enabled in bios at least for the installation