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cpaelzerahoi15:31
sarnoldgood morning15:31
eslermhello o/15:31
slyonheyho15:31
cpaelzerlet me get the template15:31
dviererbeo/15:31
cpaelzer#startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status15:31
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cpaelzerPing for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )15:31
cpaelzerplenty of people already said hi15:32
jamespageo/15:32
cpaelzerso let me start15:32
cpaelzer#topic current component mismatches15:32
cpaelzerMission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams15:32
cpaelzer#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg15:32
cpaelzer#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg15:32
cpaelzernon proposed is fine15:32
cpaelzerproposed has libmail-dkim-perl15:32
cpaelzerhistorically that was desktop, but we agreed topick this up as part of the similar work on dmarc15:32
cpaelzerso mirespace will file requests for those15:33
cpaelzerI haven't seen libio-prompter-perl before, anyone knows about this?15:33
slyoncpaelzer: we're taking care of libio-prompter-perl15:33
slyonit's been there for a few weeks15:33
cpaelzerI checked it is foundations15:33
cpaelzerthanks15:33
cpaelzerit didn't move yet so I wanted to ask again, all fine15:33
cpaelzerpipewire is Desktop and has been there in the past15:34
cpaelzerlooks like a new dep by a sync maybe15:34
cpaelzerlet us check the most recent upload15:34
cpaelzeryep https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pipewire/1.0.0-115:34
cpaelzerjbicha: didrocks: could you carry this to the team and let us know next week what the approach to that one should be?15:34
cpaelzerOTOH I'm impressed it is 1.0 - yay suggest stability15:35
cpaelzerand then we know jaraco.text no need to bring it up again15:35
cpaelzerthat is all that I see in mismatches15:35
cpaelzeranything else you want to raise for that section of the agenda?15:35
jamespageactually I had a query on the jaraco.text one15:36
cpaelzergo15:36
jamespagepydantic is one of the deps - I worked through the feedback on that last week15:36
jamespageone TODO was to upgrade to the latest 2.x series release (from 1.10.x) which is a pretty large transition as the 2 series breaks alot of API15:37
sarnoldlogcheck -> esmtp feels like it's part of the furniture around here but my irc client no longer has scrollback about it -- is that still in a state for us to ignore?15:37
cpaelzersarnold: yes that is a known false positive15:37
jamespagequestion is really whether we should always insist on very latest up-to-date15:37
cpaelzerjamespage: I agree that not going for 2.x seems right for this15:37
jamespage1.10.x has recent-ish releases which I have updated to15:37
cpaelzerthanks for updating and enabling the tests15:37
slyonsarnold: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plzip/+bug/1980663/comments/315:38
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1980663 in plzip (Ubuntu) "[MIR] false-positives, do not promote" [Undecided, Fix Released]15:38
sarnoldoh hah, clicking it even goes to the right thing; thanks15:38
cpaelzerjamespage updating the case ...15:39
jamespageta15:39
jamespagestill needs security review onthat task15:39
cpaelzerno it does not15:40
cpaelzeroh15:40
cpaelzerI misread as they were to many updates15:40
cpaelzerand too many review15:40
cpaelzerright, fixing15:40
cpaelzershould be good now jamespage15:41
jamespagebrill thanks15:41
cpaelzerok15:41
cpaelzernext15:41
cpaelzer#topic New MIRs15:41
cpaelzerMission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing15:41
cpaelzer#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir15:41
cpaelzerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libemail-mime-contenttype-perl/+bug/203096215:42
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2030962 in libemail-mime-contenttype-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libemail-mime-contenttype-perl (libemail-mime-perl dependency as libmail-dmarc-perl dependency)" [Undecided, New]15:42
jbichayes, Desktop is investigating the new Pipewire 1.0 dependency to either disable it or prepare a MIR15:42
cpaelzerwas reviewed15:42
cpaelzerthanks jbicha15:42
cpaelzerThis is actually ready, just needs the subscription and the other dependencies15:42
cpaelzerI'll add the subscription and mark if as ready later15:43
cpaelzernext is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgssglue/+bug/204453515:43
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2044535 in libgssglue (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libgssglue" [Undecided, New]15:43
cpaelzerslyon: did the check with the team already happen?15:43
slyoncpaelzer: the discussion in still in progress. I'm +1 personally, but like to get some more buy-in from the team15:44
cpaelzersure15:44
cpaelzersounds fine15:44
cpaelzerhappy to wait for the call then15:44
cpaelzer#topic Incomplete bugs / questions15:44
cpaelzerMission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams15:44
cpaelzer#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir15:44
sarnoldheh, the whole template in there, it's hard to know what's relevant vs regular old boilerplate -- I wonder if we need to update our docs to make it more clear what's expected of mir proposers15:44
cpaelzerI felt it is clear, it needs inout of those requesters what they would have expected15:45
cpaelzerrecent changes in incomplete15:45
sarnoldinout? input or i/o? :)15:45
cpaelzerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmail-dmarc-perl/+bug/2023971 has gotten the change to the smaller dependency set15:45
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2023971 in libmail-dmarc-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmail-dmarc-perl" [High, Incomplete]15:45
cpaelzerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dotnet6/+bug/2023531 is almost ready15:45
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2023531 in dotnet6 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dotnet6" [Undecided, Incomplete]15:45
cpaelzerjust tests to be added, then it is good15:46
cpaelzerlong things are finally good15:46
cpaelzerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnet-ip-perl/+bug/2039456 is interesting15:46
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2039456 in libnet-ip-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnet-ip-perl (as libmail-dmarc-perl dependency)" [Undecided, Incomplete]15:46
cpaelzersarnold: eslerm: could you have a look15:46
cpaelzerthat is a case of "all fine, but upstream is dead"15:46
cpaelzerOTOH it also doesn#t need any change one would know of15:46
cpaelzerthere are such packages in the archive and joalif rightfully asked for you to say "yeah this is fine for us too"15:47
cpaelzeris it?15:47
cpaelzerand while you ponder about that , the other one in incomplete is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmatch-simple-perl/+bug/2042100 which slyon mentioned before to be in progress - no action needed15:47
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2042100 in libmatch-simple-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmatch-simple-perl (libio-prompter-perl dependency)" [Undecided, Incomplete]15:47
cpaelzerthe further ones are dependencies of the dmarc thing which are no more needed15:48
cpaelzerso before going on, sarnold / eslerm - WDYT?15:48
* eslerm looking15:48
sarnold# Copyright (c) 1999 - 2002                           RIPE NCC15:48
sarnoldheh15:48
cpaelzerdo not call it dead, call it stable15:48
dviererbe:D15:48
EickmeyerLooks ripe.15:49
cpaelzerfeel free to give me the answer on the bug later on15:49
cpaelzerI'd like to use the time here to complete all agenda items15:49
cpaelzerok?15:49
sarnoldyeah15:49
eslermsounds ok, we're going to fuzz a lot of these packages at once, and I feel we may as well with this even if we don't do an mir15:49
cpaelzerindeed eslerm15:50
cpaelzerESM for the win15:50
cpaelzerleave a trace on the bug later on please15:50
cpaelzer#topic Process/Documentation improvements15:50
cpaelzerMission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues15:50
cpaelzer#link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls15:50
cpaelzer#link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues15:50
cpaelzeronly the old on-hold things15:50
cpaelzerI've landed last week the security "make clear about deadlines" PR15:50
cpaelzerafter like 3 spell check PRs :-P15:50
cpaelzer#topic MIR related Security Review Queue15:51
cpaelzerMission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?15:51
cpaelzerSome clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.15:51
cpaelzer#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir15:51
cpaelzer#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir15:51
cpaelzerInternal link15:51
cpaelzer- ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect15:51
cpaelzer- ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much15:51
cpaelzer#link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/59415:51
sarnoldoh look new bug on the list :)15:51
cpaelzerhehe15:52
cpaelzerwell, some email things that we expected15:52
cpaelzerthere is a bunch in TODO15:52
eslermI'm hoping dbus-broker gets a dbus-run-session wrapper, it's a package we want promotoed15:52
cpaelzerlet me ask, how is the capacity before Christmas shutdown to get some of them to done?15:52
cpaelzerack eslerm15:52
sarnoldcapacity is limited, many people are burning the needful pto due15:53
eslermthe perl work should be ramping up soon. @iosifache has perl fuzzing tooling setup and will teach a few others who will work on them together15:53
* cpaelzer thinks of eslerm and sarnold now coordinating out of band what they should say to be nice but not make promises :-P15:53
cpaelzerah there it is15:53
cpaelzerunderstandable sarnold and sounds good eslerm15:54
cpaelzerthanks15:54
cpaelzer#topic Any other business?15:54
sarnoldheh, after we yanked internal irc, I can't multitask chat like I used to :(15:54
cpaelzeruse MM via IRC15:54
sarnoldthe thought occurs to me often :(15:54
cpaelzerremember https://xkcd.com/1782/15:54
sarnoldit me!15:54
cpaelzerno other topic by me this week15:55
sarnoldoh right15:55
cpaelzerwell, mirespace asked me to notify that the libmail-dkim things seen in proposed will not be 1 8as shown) but 3 MIR packages15:55
sarnoldnone here, except a general warning of the pto bonfire15:55
slyonnothing here.15:55
cpaelzerindeed sarnold15:56
cpaelzerok, let me close this15:56
cpaelzerthank you and see you next week15:56
sarnoldthanks cpaelzer, all :)15:56
cpaelzerwith a few more cases to review and a few more in the seucity check "in progress" list15:56
cpaelzer\o/15:56
cpaelzer#endmeeting15:56
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eslermthanks all o/15:56
dviererbethanks everyone o/15:56
didrockscpaelzer: I’ll track it to seb, but I think jbicha is the one with the closest interest of it :)16:04
jbichadidrocks: yes, seb128 & I briefly discussed the new pipewire dependency today & added a Jira card to investigate16:05
didrocksjbicha: exellent, thanks!16:09
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