[15:31] <cpaelzer> ahoi
[15:31] <sarnold> good morning
[15:31] <eslerm> hello o/
[15:31] <slyon> heyho
[15:31] <cpaelzer> let me get the template
[15:31] <dviererbe> o/
[15:31] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[15:31] <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )
[15:32] <cpaelzer> plenty of people already said hi
[15:32] <jamespage> o/
[15:32] <cpaelzer> so let me start
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[15:32] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:32] <cpaelzer> non proposed is fine
[15:32] <cpaelzer> proposed has libmail-dkim-perl
[15:32] <cpaelzer> historically that was desktop, but we agreed topick this up as part of the similar work on dmarc
[15:33] <cpaelzer> so mirespace will file requests for those
[15:33] <cpaelzer> I haven't seen libio-prompter-perl before, anyone knows about this?
[15:33] <slyon> cpaelzer: we're taking care of libio-prompter-perl
[15:33] <slyon> it's been there for a few weeks
[15:33] <cpaelzer> I checked it is foundations
[15:33] <cpaelzer> thanks
[15:33] <cpaelzer> it didn't move yet so I wanted to ask again, all fine
[15:34] <cpaelzer> pipewire is Desktop and has been there in the past
[15:34] <cpaelzer> looks like a new dep by a sync maybe
[15:34] <cpaelzer> let us check the most recent upload
[15:34] <cpaelzer> yep https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pipewire/1.0.0-1
[15:34] <cpaelzer> jbicha: didrocks: could you carry this to the team and let us know next week what the approach to that one should be?
[15:35] <cpaelzer> OTOH I'm impressed it is 1.0 - yay suggest stability
[15:35] <cpaelzer> and then we know jaraco.text no need to bring it up again
[15:35] <cpaelzer> that is all that I see in mismatches
[15:35] <cpaelzer> anything else you want to raise for that section of the agenda?
[15:36] <jamespage> actually I had a query on the jaraco.text one
[15:36] <cpaelzer> go
[15:36] <jamespage> pydantic is one of the deps - I worked through the feedback on that last week
[15:37] <jamespage> one TODO was to upgrade to the latest 2.x series release (from 1.10.x) which is a pretty large transition as the 2 series breaks alot of API
[15:37] <sarnold> logcheck -> esmtp feels like it's part of the furniture around here but my irc client no longer has scrollback about it -- is that still in a state for us to ignore?
[15:37] <cpaelzer> sarnold: yes that is a known false positive
[15:37] <jamespage> question is really whether we should always insist on very latest up-to-date
[15:37] <cpaelzer> jamespage: I agree that not going for 2.x seems right for this
[15:37] <jamespage> 1.10.x has recent-ish releases which I have updated to
[15:37] <cpaelzer> thanks for updating and enabling the tests
[15:38] <slyon> sarnold: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plzip/+bug/1980663/comments/3
[15:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1980663 in plzip (Ubuntu) "[MIR] false-positives, do not promote" [Undecided, Fix Released]
[15:38] <sarnold> oh hah, clicking it even goes to the right thing; thanks
[15:39] <cpaelzer> jamespage updating the case ...
[15:39] <jamespage> ta
[15:39] <jamespage> still needs security review onthat task
[15:40] <cpaelzer> no it does not
[15:40] <cpaelzer> oh
[15:40] <cpaelzer> I misread as they were to many updates
[15:40] <cpaelzer> and too many review
[15:40] <cpaelzer> right, fixing
[15:41] <cpaelzer> should be good now jamespage
[15:41] <jamespage> brill thanks
[15:41] <cpaelzer> ok
[15:41] <cpaelzer> next
[15:41] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[15:41] <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
[15:41] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:42] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libemail-mime-contenttype-perl/+bug/2030962
[15:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2030962 in libemail-mime-contenttype-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libemail-mime-contenttype-perl (libemail-mime-perl dependency as libmail-dmarc-perl dependency)" [Undecided, New]
[15:42] <jbicha> yes, Desktop is investigating the new Pipewire 1.0 dependency to either disable it or prepare a MIR
[15:42] <cpaelzer> was reviewed
[15:42] <cpaelzer> thanks jbicha
[15:42] <cpaelzer> This is actually ready, just needs the subscription and the other dependencies
[15:43] <cpaelzer> I'll add the subscription and mark if as ready later
[15:43] <cpaelzer> next is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgssglue/+bug/2044535
[15:43] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2044535 in libgssglue (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libgssglue" [Undecided, New]
[15:43] <cpaelzer> slyon: did the check with the team already happen?
[15:44] <slyon> cpaelzer: the discussion in still in progress. I'm +1 personally, but like to get some more buy-in from the team
[15:44] <cpaelzer> sure
[15:44] <cpaelzer> sounds fine
[15:44] <cpaelzer> happy to wait for the call then
[15:44] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:44] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:44] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:44] <sarnold> heh, the whole template in there, it's hard to know what's relevant vs regular old boilerplate -- I wonder if we need to update our docs to make it more clear what's expected of mir proposers
[15:45] <cpaelzer> I felt it is clear, it needs inout of those requesters what they would have expected
[15:45] <cpaelzer> recent changes in incomplete
[15:45] <sarnold> inout? input or i/o? :)
[15:45] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmail-dmarc-perl/+bug/2023971 has gotten the change to the smaller dependency set
[15:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2023971 in libmail-dmarc-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmail-dmarc-perl" [High, Incomplete]
[15:45] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dotnet6/+bug/2023531 is almost ready
[15:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2023531 in dotnet6 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dotnet6" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[15:46] <cpaelzer> just tests to be added, then it is good
[15:46] <cpaelzer> long things are finally good
[15:46] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnet-ip-perl/+bug/2039456 is interesting
[15:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2039456 in libnet-ip-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnet-ip-perl (as libmail-dmarc-perl dependency)" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[15:46] <cpaelzer> sarnold: eslerm: could you have a look
[15:46] <cpaelzer> that is a case of "all fine, but upstream is dead"
[15:46] <cpaelzer> OTOH it also doesn#t need any change one would know of
[15:47] <cpaelzer> there are such packages in the archive and joalif rightfully asked for you to say "yeah this is fine for us too"
[15:47] <cpaelzer> is it?
[15:47] <cpaelzer> and while you ponder about that , the other one in incomplete is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmatch-simple-perl/+bug/2042100 which slyon mentioned before to be in progress - no action needed
[15:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2042100 in libmatch-simple-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmatch-simple-perl (libio-prompter-perl dependency)" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[15:48] <cpaelzer> the further ones are dependencies of the dmarc thing which are no more needed
[15:48] <cpaelzer> so before going on, sarnold / eslerm - WDYT?
[15:48]  * eslerm looking
[15:48] <sarnold> # Copyright (c) 1999 - 2002                           RIPE NCC
[15:48] <sarnold> heh
[15:48] <cpaelzer> do not call it dead, call it stable
[15:48] <dviererbe> :D
[15:49] <Eickmeyer> Looks ripe.
[15:49] <cpaelzer> feel free to give me the answer on the bug later on
[15:49] <cpaelzer> I'd like to use the time here to complete all agenda items
[15:49] <cpaelzer> ok?
[15:49] <sarnold> yeah
[15:49] <eslerm> sounds ok, we're going to fuzz a lot of these packages at once, and I feel we may as well with this even if we don't do an mir
[15:50] <cpaelzer> indeed eslerm
[15:50] <cpaelzer> ESM for the win
[15:50] <cpaelzer> leave a trace on the bug later on please
[15:50] <cpaelzer> #topic Process/Documentation improvements
[15:50] <cpaelzer> Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues
[15:50] <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls
[15:50] <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues
[15:50] <cpaelzer> only the old on-hold things
[15:50] <cpaelzer> I've landed last week the security "make clear about deadlines" PR
[15:50] <cpaelzer> after like 3 spell check PRs :-P
[15:51] <cpaelzer> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
[15:51] <cpaelzer> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
[15:51] <cpaelzer> Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.
[15:51] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:51] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:51] <cpaelzer> Internal link
[15:51] <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
[15:51] <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
[15:51] <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
[15:51] <sarnold> oh look new bug on the list :)
[15:52] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:52] <cpaelzer> well, some email things that we expected
[15:52] <cpaelzer> there is a bunch in TODO
[15:52] <eslerm> I'm hoping dbus-broker gets a dbus-run-session wrapper, it's a package we want promotoed
[15:52] <cpaelzer> let me ask, how is the capacity before Christmas shutdown to get some of them to done?
[15:52] <cpaelzer> ack eslerm
[15:53] <sarnold> capacity is limited, many people are burning the needful pto due
[15:53] <eslerm> the perl work should be ramping up soon. @iosifache has perl fuzzing tooling setup and will teach a few others who will work on them together
[15:53]  * cpaelzer thinks of eslerm and sarnold now coordinating out of band what they should say to be nice but not make promises :-P
[15:53] <cpaelzer> ah there it is
[15:54] <cpaelzer> understandable sarnold and sounds good eslerm
[15:54] <cpaelzer> thanks
[15:54] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[15:54] <sarnold> heh, after we yanked internal irc, I can't multitask chat like I used to :(
[15:54] <cpaelzer> use MM via IRC
[15:54] <sarnold> the thought occurs to me often :(
[15:54] <cpaelzer> remember https://xkcd.com/1782/
[15:54] <sarnold> it me!
[15:55] <cpaelzer> no other topic by me this week
[15:55] <sarnold> oh right
[15:55] <cpaelzer> well, mirespace asked me to notify that the libmail-dkim things seen in proposed will not be 1 8as shown) but 3 MIR packages
[15:55] <sarnold> none here, except a general warning of the pto bonfire
[15:55] <slyon> nothing here.
[15:56] <cpaelzer> indeed sarnold
[15:56] <cpaelzer> ok, let me close this
[15:56] <cpaelzer> thank you and see you next week
[15:56] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:56] <cpaelzer> with a few more cases to review and a few more in the seucity check "in progress" list
[15:56] <cpaelzer> \o/
[15:56] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:56] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:56:47 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-11-28-15.31.moin.txt
[15:56] <eslerm> thanks all o/
[15:56] <dviererbe> thanks everyone o/
[16:04] <didrocks> cpaelzer: I’ll track it to seb, but I think jbicha is the one with the closest interest of it :)
[16:05] <jbicha> didrocks: yes, seb128 & I briefly discussed the new pipewire dependency today & added a Jira card to investigate
[16:09] <didrocks> jbicha: exellent, thanks!