[16:00] <pushkarnk> o/
[16:00] <ogayot> o/
[16:00] <liushuyu> o/
[16:00] <ginggs> o/
[16:01] <Skia> o/
[16:01] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started at 16:01:32 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
[16:01] <bdrung> \o
[16:01] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
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[16:01] <bdmurray> o/
[16:01] <ravikant_> o/
[16:01] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-30-november-2023/
[16:05] <zhsj> o/
[16:06] <bdmurray> I have no questions
[16:07] <juliank> People are still writing :)
[16:08] <bdmurray> Then my question is why?
[16:08] <schopin> Because we always think we have enough time, even though we clearly don't.
[16:10] <dviererbe> o/
[16:10] <bdmurray> dviererbe: what is a "release timeline tool"?
[16:10] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:11] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:11] <juliank> (sorry real links are internal right now)
[16:11] <bdmurray> I'll sort it today.
[16:11] <juliank> bug 2044623 we are basically done already
[16:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2044623 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "(L)Ubuntu 24.04 Daily install fails when XFS is selected" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2044623
[16:11] <juliank> This will get fixed with 2.12 final shortly
[16:12] <juliank> bug 1969394 I think is desktop
[16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969394 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Settings & Livepatch' button opens 'settings' tab, not livepatch" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969394
[16:12] <juliank> bug 2042790 - schopin
[16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2042790 in glibc (Ubuntu) "libc6-prof description should say what profiling features are present" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2042790
[16:13] <schopin> Oh right, that. Yes, we should do that.
[16:13] <schopin> (it's already somewhere in my todolist)
[16:14] <juliank> schopin: I'll go tag and target it anyhow
[16:14] <schopin> thanks :)
[16:14] <juliank> bug 2043713 I suppose is more armhf security gcc flag fallout?
[16:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2043713 in apport (Ubuntu) "TestApportValgrind.test_valgrind_min_installed fails on armhf: Invalid write of size 4" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2043713
[16:15] <juliank> ah yes I remember
[16:16] <juliank> So the issue is that valgrind doesn't support the right stack layout or something I read earlier today
[16:16] <adrien> "maybe"? tbh I didn't try to fully understand the root cause
[16:17] <bdrung> this should be the -fstack-clash-protection issue
[16:23] <juliank> bug 2045250
[16:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2045250 in pam (Ubuntu) "pam_lastlog doesn't handle localtime_r related errors properly" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2045250
[16:24] <schopin> fheimes was notified about that bug off-band, and figured we'd want to fix this *before* we get customer complaints :)
[16:24] <juliank> sounds gtm
[16:24] <adrien> (for fstack-clash-protection: asked the security team again over mattermost, and will maybe switch to another communication channel if I don't get an answer)
[16:25] <juliank> tagging todo
[16:25] <juliank> bug 2015538
[16:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015538 in dbus-broker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-broker" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015538
[16:25] <juliank> seems SEG is interested now
[16:26] <juliank> Let's skip that
[16:26] <schopin> Why is this on Foundations' radar? The MIR has been filed by Desktop.
[16:26] <juliank> dbus is foundations
[16:26] <juliank> like dbus-daemon is right now, so dbus-broker should be when it replaces it
[16:27] <schopin> Oh and there's an issue of reimplementing a missing feature, which would be for us to do according to slyon.
[16:27] <juliank> bug 2017401 I do not know what to do right now and I'm supposed to write a spec on this I think but need to find notes from Riga
[16:27] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Jammy) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017401
[16:28] <juliank> Need to get to January to reconnect with vor_lon
[16:28] <juliank> #link (ish) rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:28] <juliank> bug 2041518
[16:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041518 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:5:_g_log_abort:g_log_writer_default:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_standard" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041518
[16:28] <juliank> this is for desktop
[16:29] <juliank> bug 2041831
[16:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041831 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager:11:g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a:g_object_ref:gdk_event_copy:pygi_boxed_copy_in_place:arg_boxed_to_py_cleanup" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041831
[16:31] <juliank> I believe this seems like a pygobject issue for desktop to investigate, probably a type declared wrong somewhere?
[16:31] <juliank> I left comment to that effect on the bug
[16:31] <juliank> That's all for mm, ff is empty too, we only have one bug  left for jj
[16:31] <juliank> bug 2039083
[16:31] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2039083 in systemd (Ubuntu) "'optional: true' flag introduces problem it's meant to fix in certain circumstances" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2039083
[16:32] <juliank> enr0n: systemd-networkd blocks on empty list when waiting for online ifaces in jammy it says
[16:33] <enr0n> juliank: this is a can of worms. We need to implement our network-online spec basically.
[16:33] <enr0n> systemd-networkd-wait-online is behaving correctly in that case, but people have been used to it being a no-op basically for a while
[16:33] <enr0n> but I should comment on that so I will do so
[16:34] <juliank> OK I'll leave that with you
[16:34] <schopin> so, basically, they're holding it wrong?
[16:34] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:34] <juliank> Unfortunately we don't have good data from last week and it's going to take forever to get through the list so...
[16:34] <juliank> I propose we skip this in the meeting and create an epic tomorrow with tasks in it
[16:34] <juliank> Then everyone can just pick one
[16:35] <bdrung> sounds like a good plan.
[16:36] <juliank> #topic AOB
[16:36] <enr0n> I will be out tomorrow
[16:36] <bdmurray> As will I
[16:36] <ginggs> me too
[16:37] <juliank> Alright, that wraps this up I suppose
[16:37] <juliank> #endmeeting
[16:37] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:37:20 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-11-30-16.01.moin.txt