[13:50] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[17:30] <stuffandthings> After maybe 2h, though it varies, things just come to a crawl, apps stall, etc, 23.10. Ruled out thermals. Attempting a shutdown/resart makes it get stuck shutting down with 10 tasks left or so. How should I try to find out the cause? BTW this only started to happen about 2 weeks ago.
[17:31] <stuffandthings> the listing of attempting to end those tasks keeps cycling, that part is not frozen ever.
[17:32] <stuffandthings> (that is system-d, right?)
[18:05] <stuffandthings> ugh its happening again
[18:06] <stuffandthings> sudo commands do nothing but running something like top works fine
[19:18] <user|64> hey, new user to Kubuntu, is this the right place to ask a question regarding uhhh, bluetooth being wonk?
[19:19] <user|64> or just refusing to enable
[19:19] <user|64> I *believe* I have bluez
[21:08] <lakitu>  <lakitu> hey - kubuntu here - the audio system tray icon says "No output or input devices found" & I have no sound - how can I get sound? I have audio devices connected
[23:43] <mmikowski> stuffandthings: Probably kernel upgrade related. Try an earlier kernel from 2 weeks ago.
[23:43] <mmikowski> lakitu: What's your hardware?
[23:43] <stuffandthings> so its a known thing?
[23:44] <stuffandthings> i7 7700 based lenovo tiny
[23:44] <mmikowski> stuffandthings: not necessarily, but sounds kernel related.
[23:44] <mmikowski> what is uname -r?
[23:44] <mmikowski> you can poke around in ubuntu kernel bugs to see if it is related. Also check syslog
[23:44] <stuffandthings> im experience it right now, cant open a konsole
[23:45] <mmikowski> tail -f syslog.
[23:45] <mmikowski> well that sucks!
[23:45] <stuffandthings> i need to wait to restart
[23:45] <stuffandthings> atleast 20 min
[23:45] <stuffandthings> unless theres a hotkey to launch konsole
[23:46] <stuffandthings> the taskbar is dead
[23:46] <mmikowski> can you Ctrl + Alt + F2 to switch to tty and then back to Ctrl + Alt + F1?
[23:46] <mmikowski> Alt + Space and type konsole?
[23:46] <stuffandthings> i dont want to risk changing tty right now
[23:46] <stuffandthings> alt space aint doing it
[23:47] <stuffandthings> got it
[23:47] <mmikowski> Well CPU sounds good. Usually quite reliable.
[23:47] <stuffandthings> it was really slow
[23:47] <mmikowski> yeah, you might have a process eating up all your resources.
[23:47] <stuffandthings> but konsole still didnt launch
[23:48] <stuffandthings> not according to top
[23:48] <mmikowski> So while kernel is possible, but may be a different change
[23:48] <stuffandthings> proc monitor is open
[23:48] <stuffandthings> pretty sure its the kernel
[23:49] <stuffandthings> im on 6.4.3
[23:49] <stuffandthings> i think 6.3 was fine
[23:50] <stuffandthings> wait, im on 6.6.3, what am i saying
[23:50] <stuffandthings> 6.5 was fine, lol
[23:52] <mmikowski> stuffandthings: Well, you can try it.
[23:53] <mmikowski> If it works, you've found your culprit. Otherwise, you will want to look at syslog and journalctl to see if there are errors that imply this.
[23:54] <stuffandthings> yeah
[23:54] <mmikowski> You might also want to press Ctrl + Esc and look at processes to see if there's something spinning up. I apologize if this is too remedial.
[23:55] <stuffandthings> i had/have the proc mon open
[23:55] <mmikowski> ok
[23:56] <stuffandthings> and showing all processes
[23:56] <mmikowski> I've got a separate question for others: Anyone seen the Discover with red [X]'s where the images are supposed to go? On 22.04.3 LTS, using the backports-extra repo and Plasma 5.27.9: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/17zguut and https://i.imgur.com/E0xrzSk.png.
[23:57] <mmikowski> stuffandthings: anything stand out for taking way too much CPU or memory?
[23:57] <stuffandthings> not a bit
[23:57] <stuffandthings> under 5%
[23:57] <mmikowski> Plasma should take 500K or so.
[23:58] <stuffandthings> plasma shell is the highest for mem but only around 256meg
[23:58] <stuffandthings> system has 16gig