=== fusion1181_away is now known as fusion1181 === fusion1181 is now known as fusion1181_away === fusion1181_away is now known as fusion1181 === sternis9 is now known as sternis === gabriele is now known as gabriele__ === fusion1181 is now known as fusion1181_away === popey0 is now known as popey === fusion1181_away is now known as fusion1181 === fusion1181 is now known as fusion1181_away === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life === TomTom_ is now known as TomTom [13:50] Hi all [14:14] A4SH [14:14] A45H [17:30] After maybe 2h, though it varies, things just come to a crawl, apps stall, etc, 23.10. Ruled out thermals. Attempting a shutdown/resart makes it get stuck shutting down with 10 tasks left or so. How should I try to find out the cause? BTW this only started to happen about 2 weeks ago. [17:31] the listing of attempting to end those tasks keeps cycling, that part is not frozen ever. [17:32] (that is system-d, right?) [18:05] ugh its happening again [18:06] sudo commands do nothing but running something like top works fine [19:18] hey, new user to Kubuntu, is this the right place to ask a question regarding uhhh, bluetooth being wonk? [19:19] or just refusing to enable [19:19] I *believe* I have bluez === fusion1181_away is now known as fusion1181 [21:08] hey - kubuntu here - the audio system tray icon says "No output or input devices found" & I have no sound - how can I get sound? I have audio devices connected === fusion1181 is now known as fusion1181_away === fusion1181_away is now known as fusion1181 === fusion1181 is now known as fusion1181_away [23:43] stuffandthings: Probably kernel upgrade related. Try an earlier kernel from 2 weeks ago. [23:43] lakitu: What's your hardware? [23:43] so its a known thing? [23:44] i7 7700 based lenovo tiny [23:44] stuffandthings: not necessarily, but sounds kernel related. [23:44] what is uname -r? [23:44] you can poke around in ubuntu kernel bugs to see if it is related. Also check syslog [23:44] im experience it right now, cant open a konsole [23:45] tail -f syslog. [23:45] well that sucks! [23:45] i need to wait to restart [23:45] atleast 20 min [23:45] unless theres a hotkey to launch konsole [23:46] the taskbar is dead [23:46] can you Ctrl + Alt + F2 to switch to tty and then back to Ctrl + Alt + F1? [23:46] Alt + Space and type konsole? [23:46] i dont want to risk changing tty right now [23:46] alt space aint doing it [23:47] got it [23:47] Well CPU sounds good. Usually quite reliable. [23:47] it was really slow [23:47] yeah, you might have a process eating up all your resources. [23:47] but konsole still didnt launch [23:48] not according to top [23:48] So while kernel is possible, but may be a different change [23:48] proc monitor is open [23:48] pretty sure its the kernel [23:49] im on 6.4.3 [23:49] i think 6.3 was fine [23:50] wait, im on 6.6.3, what am i saying [23:50] 6.5 was fine, lol [23:52] stuffandthings: Well, you can try it. [23:53] If it works, you've found your culprit. Otherwise, you will want to look at syslog and journalctl to see if there are errors that imply this. [23:54] yeah [23:54] You might also want to press Ctrl + Esc and look at processes to see if there's something spinning up. I apologize if this is too remedial. [23:55] i had/have the proc mon open [23:55] ok [23:56] and showing all processes [23:56] I've got a separate question for others: Anyone seen the Discover with red [X]'s where the images are supposed to go? On 22.04.3 LTS, using the backports-extra repo and Plasma 5.27.9: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/17zguut and https://i.imgur.com/E0xrzSk.png. [23:57] stuffandthings: anything stand out for taking way too much CPU or memory? [23:57] not a bit [23:57] under 5% [23:57] Plasma should take 500K or so. [23:58] plasma shell is the highest for mem but only around 256meg [23:58] system has 16gig