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webchat47any developers here involved with the live distro boot parameters ?00:21
Habbiei don't know, but if there were any, what would be your question?00:21
webchat47want to know if there would ever be support for the boot-live package which debian uses00:22
Yakovis it corrept way to replay terminal interrupt shortcut ctrl+C to ctrl+I (stty intr ^i -> Ctrl+I) | https://askubuntu.com/a/620647 ?00:23
enigma9o7webchat47, I bet you want to be able to set the timezone as a boot paramater for live?00:54
enigma9o7If so, I spent some time trying to figure that out myself, unsuccesfully.  Works with debian tho, yep.00:55
enigma9o7So even if that's not webchat47's question, does anyone know how ot do that, boot live with a certain timezone set already?00:56
webchat47that is correct00:58
webchat47it has to do with the boot-live package which debian uses, whereas ubuntu and mint use casper which does not have that ability01:00
webchat47if the option was available you could use your own boot config with ventoy and never have to worry about changing the timezone manually01:03
mountainDewRockshey folks, I've got a shell script which is intended to call another executable. However, I can't get it to just cd properly without getting a permissions error. I've used chmod etc to try to resolve it with no luck. Any ideas?01:22
mountainDewRocksI'm using Ubuntu 22 LTS on a fresh install btw01:23
ecapimountainDewRocks, what is the error running the script or trying to change dir?01:58
ecapiusuallythe user needs +X permission to cd into a dir i think01:58
ecapi+x01:58
rockerI had to give up nvidia - installed a old radeon express2 ram 3 to get things to work with out any errors - any ideas ??02:01
rockernew install 22.0402:06
Bashing-omrocker: I would imigine that the open source nouvea drivee for a Nvidia late card would our perform an old AMD card.02:17
Bashing-omdriver*02:17
rockeri used 535 and went to 470 - made no difference02:19
rockerI am now using an old radeon card that works - nvidia - unless its new - is in sufficient02:20
rockeri completely un installed anything nvidia02:20
rockerwith the last firmware update - it started giving errors02:22
toddcI avoid nvidia on linux as much as possible but then I do not need much in the grafics area to use a terminal and light web browsing02:22
rockerwell said02:22
rockerim done with nvidia02:22
rockeri have a intel i7 970002:23
rockerclocked @ 3.502:23
rockerworks very well02:23
rockeranything nvidia - is broke02:24
rockertemps range @ 95F02:24
toddcI have one laptop with a nvidia I used the recommended driver in the addl drivers list it works ok   for what I do02:26
rockeri guess i am going to go purchase a new radeon02:26
rockermy radeon temps under load are 95F02:26
rockerexpress2 ram 302:27
rockeri also have a msi 550 with a 5600 chip and nvidia broke constantly02:28
rockertomahawk02:28
rockerwith crappy bios02:28
rockerwhat gets me is - i have hp g500 machines that run flawlessly02:30
rockerg60002:30
rockerwith intel02:30
rocker@ 3,4 g02:30
rockerwith 95F on all fronts02:31
rockercant beat them02:31
rockerI guess A.I. is in the mix now02:32
rockerfrom what i see - nvidia is giving ubuntu a run for its money.02:34
rockerthe "blob" no longer cuts the mustard02:34
toddcopen vs closed source02:35
rockerya02:35
rockerA.I.02:35
toddc!nvidia | rocker02:35
ubotturocker: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers02:35
rockerI already get it - long ago.02:35
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toddcwe cannot fix or improve their drivers02:36
rockerright02:36
rockerno more nvidia as of 2 days ago.. thanks toddc02:36
rockernvidia will make your head hurt.02:37
rockerthank you for your time and efforts people02:38
rockertoddc, how can i get rid of errors on boot02:38
rocker"report problem"02:39
toddcrocker: depends on the errors?02:39
rockerkernel blah 3702:39
toddcI defer that to others that are better in that area02:40
rockerit started  with up-down udate02:40
rockerupdate02:41
leftyfbrocker: if you want help with errors, please pastebin the errors. Do not summarize with "blah".02:41
rockerok02:41
rockerhelp me out with finding errors - var says marco.100002:41
leftyfbwhat?02:42
rockerthats what they say02:42
leftyfbpastebin or screenshot please02:42
semdoes nv still exist as a driver02:42
rockerno i completely uninstalled it anything nvidia02:43
rockerhang on lefty02:43
rockergive me the paste bin lonk thanks02:43
rockerlink02:43
rocker!pastebin02:43
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:43
seminteresting that ubottu doesn't recommend paste.ubuntu.com02:44
rockerhttps://imgur.com/a/6xQxkHX02:45
leftyfbrocker: those are crash files, not logs02:45
rockerexactly02:46
rockerlefty - what do we need here02:46
rockerwhich file exactly02:48
leftyfbfor what?02:48
semcan you share your syslog? If you are getting errors when you boot they might be in there02:48
rockera report as to why i am getting errors on boot02:49
leftyfbrocker: what errors?02:49
rockerpoint me to the correct file and i will post it02:49
rocker"report problem"02:49
semcat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit02:50
leftyfbrocker: no, point to the errors you are seeing that you want to report02:50
semyou might need to be sudo02:50
leftyfbrocker: I would suggest deleting what's in /var/crash and rebooting02:50
rockerlefty - thats all that comes up on boot no explanation02:50
leftyfbrocker: ok, delete all the files in /var/crash and reboot02:51
rockerok, lemme try that - thanks02:51
leftyfbthen worry about it if it happens again02:51
rockerout02:51
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rockerthat did the trick lefty - thanks buddy02:57
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rockerout02:58
enigma9o7leftyb is one of my heros, fyi.03:05
enigma9o7like if i had to write a paper on a hero, i'd think of leftyb03:06
webchat47how to search a literal hash (#) in a bash script if it is in a directory name ?  ie.  Path/Folder/#   ?03:26
webchat47i tried escaping with \# but it didnt work03:26
mybalzitchput the path/command in "'s?04:37
webchat47mybalzitch: i tried it but ti didnt work.  here is my script   https://dpaste.org/vJjg104:53
mybalzitchif you don't declare your interpreter at the top of the script, linux will use whatever your current shell is05:06
webchat47mybalzitch: you mean the shebang ?  i just didnt include it in the sample05:07
mybalzitchah05:07
mybalzitchhave you tried it without having a # in the variable name?05:07
webchat47no05:07
webchat47hang on05:07
webchat47yeah works without it in the variable name05:10
webchat47i tried to escape the variable without success05:10
webchat47like this         "FOLDERSSTARTINGWITH\#"="/FOLDER/SUBFOLDER/#"05:10
mybalzitchdon't escape it, literally don't use # in your variable name05:13
webchat47the hash is not possible in there ?05:13
rboxwebchat47: put the whole string in single quotes05:14
webchat47like this ?              '"FOLDERSSTARTINGWITH\#"="/FOLDER/SUBFOLDER/#"'05:15
rboxno "05:15
rboxno escape05:15
rboxjust 'the/path/you/want'05:16
webchat47this  ?    'FOLDERSSTARTINGWITH#=/FOLDER/SUBFOLDER/#'05:16
rboxif thats what the path is, then yes05:16
ecapirbox, did rascul tell you that?05:16
webchat47find: cannot search `': No such file or directory05:17
rboxwhat command are you running05:18
webchat47https://dpaste.org/vJjg1#L105:18
rboxand where are the single quotes?05:19
rboxalso dont put # in a variable name05:19
webchat47ok i will remove hash completely except for the variable05:20
webchat47yeah it works fine without hash in the variable05:21
webchat47must be a way around it though05:21
webchat47i changed hash to 0    i will just have to remember 0 is hash05:22
rboxwhat?05:22
webchat47my hash folders contain all folders starting with numbers05:22
webchat47ive always used hash for numbers or anything that is not A-Z05:23
rboxhuh?05:23
jasonhello guys06:10
ecapi!discuss | jason06:10
ubottujason: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!06:10
lotuspsychjeecapi: thats not really the way to greet new users06:17
ecapijust thought non support sentences didnt belong in a support channel06:18
lotuspsychjeecapi: its ok for users to say, hi to the room, after that we can see what they are up to, need a chat or support, agree?06:19
arraybolt3ecapi: We try to keep the channel on topic, but we aren't so strict that even a "hello" is unwanted.06:20
enigma9o7hello06:44
enigma9o7arraybolt3: are you a moderator/admin by any chance?06:45
enigma9o7it only shows someone named drone as a chanop06:45
enigma9o7and they never talk06:46
lotuspsychjeenigma9o7: the operators have a seperate room, if users need them06:46
enigma9o7Is it a secret?  Maybe I could ask them to unban me?06:47
enigma9o7Its been a couple years...06:47
lotuspsychjeenigma9o7: #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss bans/unbans06:48
arraybolt3enigma9o7: Also, I am not an operator of this channel. I'm just a member of the community who likes to help.06:54
arraybolt3drone is a bot.06:54
enigma9o7no worries.  i just saw the way you responded to last message made me think you might be official. and i kinda remember seeing your username around so was hoping you were and admin and also saw my username around and loved me06:56
arraybolt3It kicks in when someone floods the channel, and helps make the real operators' jobs a bit easier. The ops themselves only "op up" when necessary. There is a command to list the real ops, but I don't remember it at the moment, and joining #ubuntu-ops is easier anyway. Not everyone there is an op on every channel, but all of them are ops.06:56
enigma9o7yeah turns out there is no more matrix bridge to here so it matters not.  although, i'd be happy to get back on the ubuntu matrix channel too, you happen to be admin there?07:04
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enigma9o7Merry Christmas! (Hail Satan!)09:57
lotuspsychjenot here enigma9o709:57
enigma9o7here is no joy?09:57
enigma9o7no happiness?09:58
ravagehere is Ubuntu support09:58
enigma9o7Woops!09:58
gordonjcpI don't think I've ever managed to get an Ubuntu support question answered in here09:59
enigma9o7Ask now.09:59
enigma9o7I know lots.09:59
enigma9o7I mean if your questionis gunna be full of three letter abreviantions, I might be confused....10:00
enigma9o7I tried to install abc but when i run xyz it says error:efg ?10:01
lotuspsychjeyou can stop trolling now enigma9o710:02
enigma9o7ok10:02
enigma9o7when cna i restart?10:02
gordonjcplotuspsychje: that's not trolling, fwiw10:04
enigma9o7i nver k now if such warnings mean like the immediatereply, the rest of the conversation, an hourthe rest of the day, or the rest of my entire life10:04
gordonjcplotuspsychje: the term has become hideously misused10:04
enigma9o7im trolling for support requesets, c',on10:05
enigma9o7cmon10:05
ravagegordonjcp: if you want to discuss aynthing please do it in the discuss or offtopic channel10:05
enigma9o7yeah damnit you sob10:06
gordonjcpravage: tell lotuspsychje that10:28
ravageno10:28
arraybolt3!coc | enigma9o710:30
ubottuenigma9o7: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv10:30
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enigma9o7can someone please ask an ubuntu related question?  im pretty sure i know the answer....10:34
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oleanderHi, does anyone know how to configure Libreswan/Strongswan to connect to FortiGate via IPsec IKEv1, PSK, xAuth (TOTP as client secret)? With the configuration suggested in this guide the connection fails: https://community.fortinet.com/t5/FortiGate/Technical-Tip-IPsec-connection-between-FortiGate-and-Ubuntu-via/ta-p/20714911:48
ravageoleander: why dont you use openfortivpn for example?11:50
oleanderDoes openfortivpn support the IPsec protocol?11:55
ravageit supports fortigate vpn11:56
ravagedefault seems to be SSL VPN11:58
oleanderI need an IPsec VPN client.12:19
oleanderI had already looked into openfortivpn and I read that IPsec is not supported.12:26
JanColeander: IPsec is integrated in NetworkManager, I think?12:44
JanCif you install network-manager-strongswan12:45
noordis there any way to delete '~' folder? gerrit created '~' directory under homedir12:49
ravagermdir '~'12:51
noordit says the directory not empty and I can't wipe the subfolders, what a mess12:53
ravagewhy would you not be able to delete the contents of that dir?12:57
ravagecd '~'12:57
ravagedelete all12:57
ravagecd ..12:57
ravagermdir '~'12:57
noordI have no idea what gerrit does, going to try reboot, it may open file handles12:58
ravageor just 'mv '~' delme' and 'rm -Rf delme'12:58
ravagei have no idea who gerrit is12:58
ravagemust be a bad gzy12:58
ravageguy12:58
noordit is a code review tool12:59
noordravage: thanks, reboot and rm -r '~' worked13:00
ravage\o/13:02
BluesKajHi all13:50
oleanderI tried that, and 1) if I'm not mistaken it supports only IKEv2, I need IKEv1. 2) We were provided with the following parameters, and these options are missing in the network manager plugin: Remote Gateway = host.example.com ; PSK = xxxxxxx ; IKE  = version 1 ; Mode = Aggressive ; Phase 1 --> Encryption=AES256 Authentication=SHA1 DH group=2 Key life=86400sec LocalID=example, Dead Peer Detection=enabled,  Nat Traversal=enabled,13:56
oleanderLocal lan=enabled ; Phase 2 --> Encryption=AES192 Authentication=SHA1 DH group=5 Key life=43200sec ReplayDetection=enabled; Also, we use TOTP as client secret with xAuth. The TOTP is generated by our company app. The secret key is a QR code.13:56
wodes<noord> is there any way to delete '~' folder? gerrit created '~' directory under homedir14:12
wodes<noord> ravage: thanks, reboot and rm -r '~' worked14:12
wodesAh good14:12
wodesI was gonna reply!14:12
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mountainDewRocksI'm running ubuntu 22 LTS and I'm having trouble getting my permissions to work for a particular shell script. The file permissions show as -rwxr-xr-x, which seems a bit odd. The script is supposed to call another executable in another location, but even the cd command throws a permissions error. Any ideas what could be causing this?14:32
ravagemountainDewRocks: the permissions of the script itself are not relevant. the user you run the bash script has does not have the right permissions14:34
mountainDewRocksso what can I do to fix that?14:35
ravagewithout knowing what that script nobody will be able to help with that14:35
ravagein general: make sure the user you run the script as has permissions to execute all the commands in the script14:36
mountainDewRocksthe user is a sudoer, what other permissions would matter?14:37
ravageputting a user in the sudo group does not fix magicially fix permission problems14:37
ravage-fix14:38
mountainDewRocksSO I tried running the script as root and that's when it showed the "no such file or directory" error... so I've fixed it *facepalm*14:46
mountainDewRocksThough why it would show a permissions issue instead of that in the first place is beyond me14:46
YakovWhen I paste in the terminal sometimes the contents are prefixed with the characters '^[[200~', tried a lot from SO but still same issue15:32
Yakovcan you pls guide me how to fix it? I copy to terminal with ctrl+c/ctrl+v, previously used ctrl+shift+c/ctrl+shift+v, same ~20015:32
HabbieYakov, does typing 'reset' into your shell fix it?15:40
YakovI want to call kitty (3rd party terminal) with desktop file, it calls as requested, but it called by gnome terminal and if I close gnome terminal kitty closes too | 'nohup /home/supernova/Downloads/kitty-0.26.5/kitty/launcher/kitty &' how to ammend?16:39
rboxwhat does this desktop file look like16:40
Yakovhttps://justpaste.it/dbe8o16:42
rboxwell, you could remove terminal=true for one...16:43
rboxyou can also not exec it in a gnome terminal if you dont want a gnome terminal16:43
rboxrofl16:43
Yakov:)16:43
Yakovwhat is funny:)16:44
Yakovafter I removed Termina=true it calls gnome too16:47
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dcI have a really weird issue. When i log into my ubuntu box with ssh, and type "bash ~/some/path" and press tab to autocomplete, it crashes the session or shell and im disconnected17:23
mozambiquesorry17:25
mozambiquedon't know17:25
dcokay i had a bad set in a script being loaded on login :)17:26
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Yakovusing stty intr ^z to change interrupt command from ctrl+c to ctrl+z, before reboot works, after reboot it's not18:39
Yakovhow to fix it?18:40
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metanoia_Hello everyone18:56
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rfmYakov, put the stty command in .bashrc (assuming you use bash.)19:01
MrNumber3IsMeHello room19:43
MrNumber3IsMeI messed up while creating a dual boot system with Ubuntu / Windows 10. can anyone help?19:45
HabbieMrNumber3IsMe, probably best to tell us what happened, what the current situation is, etc.19:55
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zeratulWhen I format a partiton with mkfs I have to use sudo but that also has the effect that I have to use sudo to write to that partition. How do I format a partition in a way that doesn't require me to use sudo to have write access to the partition?20:02
Habbiethat's because of how you mount, not because of how you mkfs20:03
zeratulhuh?20:03
Habbieok, tell me about your steps. somewhere between 'mkfs' and 'i cannot write to the partition' you surely do more things20:04
zeratulsudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx20:04
MrNumber3IsMeI bought a Lenovo laptop with Win10 installed on it. I went to set up a dual boot system with Ubuntu, but during the install process, I found out there were some issues with UEFI compatibility, and now I cannot access Windows through GRUB. I also somehow accidentally installed GRUB to my external HDD, and I cannot boot my computer without it installed.20:05
HabbieMrNumber3IsMe, what happens if you hit F12 just after powerup?20:05
Iris_Persephoneheya, not sure if this is the best place for this but will ask anyways20:06
MrNumber3IsMeYou're talking about forcing the BIOS boot menu?20:07
MrNumber3IsMeIt only gives me options for physical boot options such as internal HDD, External HDD, DVD, USB, etc...20:09
Iris_Persephoneso my friend and I have an Ubuntu 22.04 VPS we share, and I want to configure it so that we can send local mail (using mailutils) to each other, but I also want to point the MX record for the domain to my own personal Protonmail account (so that if someone sends mail to that domain, it is sent to my email account, but if my friend sends me mail using the mail command, it sends it to my local mailbox where I can see it the20:09
Iris_Persephonenext time I ssh in)20:09
Iris_Persephonehow do I configure that?20:09
HabbieMrNumber3IsMe, yes, i meant the bios boot menu20:09
lakituhey - kubuntu here - the audio system tray icon says "No output or input devices found" & my I have no sound - how can I get sound? I have audio devices connected20:09
lakitueven when I connect a bluetooth speaker & it says connected it won't show in the audio devices system tray icon20:11
MrNumber3IsMeHabbie, if I use the BIOS boot menu, it lets me choose HDD, DVD, etc. if I choose HDD, it opens GRUB, but Windows is not one of the options. I can still access the Windows partition through Ubuntu, but I cannot boot into Windows.20:12
MrNumber3IsMeLakitu, what does your ALSA configuration look like?20:13
lakituhow do I access it?20:14
lakituMrNumber3IsMe20:14
MrNumber3IsMeopen Terminal (Ctrl + Alt + T) then type alsamixer    that will open your sound settings.20:17
lakituok20:19
MrNumber3IsMelakitu, from there, you should be able to choose how to configure your sound settings. Unless you know what you're doing, I'd suggest switching everything to default.20:20
lakituok...20:20
Iris_PersephoneI guess the confusing part here is the difference between the domain name (as in, the domain that I bought and pointed towards the VPS's IP address) and the domain name (what is returned when I type hostname --fqdn) because those are two different things and I feel they shouldn't be20:22
lakituMrNumber3IsMe: how do I set default settings?20:23
Iris_Persephonewhat I'm worried about is the mail command trying to route it "the wrong way" towards my protonmail account instead of towards my local mailbox on the VPS, but it has to do with how it resolves domain names and I don't really understand it20:23
Iris_Persephoneapologies, I'm not being clear20:24
MrNumber3IsMeLakitu, I apologize, it looks like I was wrong. it doesn't seem like you can really change anything from that menu. But you should be able to press F6 to select your sound cards, and see what sounds are being sent through them.20:29
lakituyeah. I tried each of the 3 choices there, but still couldn't get sound nor see them in audio system tray icon20:30
lakitu(dialog)20:30
MrNumber3IsMeLakitu, I apologize, it seems you've reached the end of my usefulness. I don't have much experience beyond that. I wish you the best of luck.20:31
lakituok - thanks for trying20:31
lakituI get this error message from pulseaudio: "$ pulseaudio20:33
lakituE: [pulseaudio] module-udev-detect.c: You apparently ran out of inotify watches, probably because Tracker/Beagle took them all away. I wished people would do their homework first and fix inotify before using it for watching whole directory trees which is something the current inotify is certainly not useful for. Please make sure to drop the Tracker/Beagle guys a line complaining about their broken use of inotify."20:33
k3084test20:41
Maikfailed20:41
zeratulWhen I format a partiton with mkfs I have to use sudo but that also has the effect that I have to use sudo to write to that partition. How do I format a partition in a way that doesn't require me to use sudo to have write access to the partition?20:43
k3084su20:44
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Habbiezeratul, you asked that question before. I asked you things about it. You did not answer them.20:46
zeratulHabbie, I did answer20:50
zeratul<Habbie> that's because of how you mount, not because of how you mkfs20:50
zeratul<zeratul> huh?20:50
zeratul<Habbie> ok, tell me about your steps. somewhere between 'mkfs' and 'i cannot write to the partition' you surely do more things20:50
zeratul<zeratul> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx20:50
Habbiethat's the first step20:50
Habbiewhat are the other steps that lead to your problem?20:50
Habbieplease show us the problem20:50
zeratulthe problem is that I don't have write access to the partition after formatting it20:51
Habbieok, show us20:51
JanCso Habbie want to know how you mount it20:51
zeratulHabbie, show how?20:52
Habbieyou see a problem on your screen20:52
Habbieshow it to us20:52
Habbieput it on a pastebin, or take a screenshot, or even make a photo and post it online somewhere20:52
JanCor just explain, if it's easy to explain20:52
Iris_PersephoneWhat's the difference between the fully-qualified domain name you get from "hostname --fqdn" and the actual domain name you have set up in the DNS records?21:03
lowdenhello, so i have been booting a live xubuntu usb using toram option but now that i installed it on the same usb the toram option doesn't work21:03
masberhi, I am looking for a package which contains any of these files: Qt6Config.cmake, qt6-config.cmake, Qt5Config.cmake, qt5-config.cmake . Any idea how to find them? I tried `sudo apt search ...` but could not find them21:05
masberis there a website I can use to search this things? I assume this has to exists in a repo I don't have21:05
Habbiemasber, there's the apt-file tool21:08
masberwhat's the difference between apt search and apt-file search?21:09
Habbieapt searches names and descriptions; apt-file searches file names in packages21:11
zeratulHabbie, "cannot create regular file : permission denied"21:17
zeratulafter running cp ~/Desktop/filename ./21:18
Habbiewhat is ./ in this case? how did it get mounted?21:18
JanCzeratul: no, we need to know what you did between creating the filesystem (mkfs) and trying to copy files21:19
zeratulHabbie, I mounted the partition with Thunar21:19
Habbiei think you should chown the mount point, with sudo, once21:21
zeratulcould you be a little more specific?21:21
Habbiesomething like: sudo chown zeratul:users /mnt/whateveritis21:26
zeratulhow do I display the current permissions?21:28
Habbiels -al21:29
lowdenhello, so i have been booting a live xubuntu usb using toram option but now that i installed it on the same usb the toram option doesn't work21:29
zeratul"installed it on the same usb" ??21:30
jeremy31lowden: If it is installed on the USB, why would you need to use toram?21:32
lowdensry on different usb21:35
lowdenjeremy31: bcz i don't want to use write to usb frequently21:36
lowdenand when i would need to actually change stuff i'll boot the usb otherwise just ram21:36
lowdenthing is i dont have a hdd temporarily21:37
zeratullowden, the toram option isn't necessary when installing21:43
zeratuland I'm sure you have more than one usb ports21:44
lowdeni already have it installed on the usb21:45
lowdeni just want to load that particular install into ram21:46
ravageThat is not supported with an installed system21:50
lowdenrip ig21:52
Iris_Persephonethanks guys, I really appreciate you helping me21:55
MrMobiusI have ubuntu server running headless. when I connect to it with RDP to run xfce then log out, "free -h" shows about 120mb extra still being used. why is it still being taken up?22:28
noarbis there a negative side effect of having configuration files be symlinks? I'm wondering if converting my entire system to a git repo with gnu stow is feasible22:57
JanCnoarb: some applications might not follow symlinks, so you will have to check for that...23:13
noarbJanC: OK, thanks. I'm gonna go for it. Is following symlinks part of POSIX? would them not following it be a bug to report or just an app choice?23:18
JanCnoarb: it might be an app choice, e.g. security-related23:24
JanCfollowing symlinks is also slightly slower, so that might also affect things23:24
JanCand there might be other side effects23:24
JanCwhat you describe also sounds a lot like 'etckeeper'23:25
JanCor maybe that would be the reverse  :)23:25

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