[09:36] <Scary_Guy> Just upgraded to 23.10 and WHY IS IT SO SLOW?  Takes forever to open apps, though once they're open it's fine.  Also the terminal seems to open normally.
[13:38] <cmaloney> Snaps?
[17:20] <Scary_Guy> sudo apt remove snapd is like one of the first things I do.
[17:22] <jrwren> but... amazon-ssm-agent! ;) 
[17:22] <jrwren> but... LXD!  ;) 
[17:26] <Scary_Guy> https://github.com/lxc/incus
[17:28] <Scary_Guy> IDK what that is, I just find possibly better alternatives and paste them.
[17:48] <cmaloney> Incus is what happens when Canonical starts doing the whole big swinging D thing with their trademarks and the developers who actually know what's going on fork the project and leave Canonical
[17:51] <jrwren> truth!
[17:52] <jrwren> incus is the fork. so definitely use that, its packaged as deb while LXD is snap only.
[17:52] <jrwren> more proof that LXD going snap only was Canonical bullshit.
[17:52] <jrwren> Ubuntu would be great if Canonical wasn't so stupid.
[18:01] <cmaloney> Yes, on so many levels