[00:00] <arraybolt3> That looks so weird on Matrix :P
[00:00] <arraybolt3> because the > turned into a blockquote
[00:00] <tsimonq2> hah
[00:00] <tsimonq2> anyway yes it will be in SDDM
[00:00] <tsimonq2> time to throw er on extraverbose and kick it :P
[00:04] <LimeOn> what about lxqt-session?
[00:04] <LimeOn> i mean, its a session problem ^^
[00:05] <arraybolt3> It's doubtful since Openbox reproduces it too.
[00:05] <LimeOn> oh, right, i forgot that srry xD
[00:05] <arraybolt3> going to try lubuntu-default-settings next
[00:07] <arraybolt3> ok, it's not that either
[00:08] <arraybolt3> trying pavucontrol-qt, maybe it's somehow loading in the background and staying there
[00:09] <arraybolt3> nope
[00:10] <LimeOn> what about checking 'jornalctl'
[00:10] <arraybolt3> would be worth a shot
[00:10] <arraybolt3> trying lubuntu-update-notifier next
[00:10] <LimeOn> in mine, last log, from loutout says: systemd-logind  Session c1 logged out. Waiting for processes to exit.
[00:10] <LimeOn> so maybe log-out is ruled by systemd-logind, or the ubuntu equivalent
[00:11] <arraybolt3> I GOT IT!
[00:11] <arraybolt3> It is lubuntu-update-notifier!
[00:11] <LimeOn> congrats ^^
[00:11] <arraybolt3> LimeOn: Good hint about the "Waiting for processes to exit".
[00:11] <arraybolt3> lubuntu-update-notifier must be refusing to quit on logout.
[00:11] <arraybolt3> except... there's only one of them in my process list...?
[00:12] <arraybolt3> well at least we know what package causes it now.
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[00:20] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: It will likely be fixed with the systemd timer stuff currently sitting in ubuntu/noble.
[00:20] <tsimonq2> Needs some kind of GUI to configure how often it should run.
[00:21] <tsimonq2> Should communicate via dbus to systemd + change on disk and such
[00:21] <tsimonq2> This will be complicated to implement but incredibly robust to use
[00:21] <tsimonq2> tbh
[00:21] <tsimonq2> Also, I'm done with the WiFi stuff, finally. I'll do a final rework at the end, separating it all out into different files.
[00:21] <tsimonq2> In the meantime, on to locale updating and such.
[00:22] <tsimonq2> +1
[00:22] <tsimonq2> But it's On The List :P
[00:23] <tsimonq2> https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/installer-prompt/commit/a757d5224499665f44d6a4f4ca8597208bfa3ddd
[00:23] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit a757d52 in Lubuntu/installer-prompt "Correct the logic for incorrect passwords. Looks like spaghetti. 🍝"
[00:23] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:24] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Random grilling time: what's semver, why would someone use it, and what's your opinion on it?
[00:24] <tsimonq2> Yes sir ;)
[00:29] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: lol you literally put an emoji in the commit message?! You mad. :P
[00:30] <arraybolt3> s/mad/crazy/
[00:31] <arraybolt3> I think probably a new update notifier is probably a higher priority even than the network editor. The network editor is a long-term, difficult project that I wouldn't feel comfortable including in the LTS even if I had it finished feature-wise tomorrow. The update notifier, on the other hand, has a good chance of being doable this cycle and would
[00:31] <arraybolt3> be a very nice QoL improvement.
[01:04] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Do you really think it's worth it to rewrite it from scratch at this point?
[01:07] <tsimonq2> https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/installer-prompt/commit/24a20939a6b9b970c61b5e74f375c298fc939d05
[01:07] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit 24a2093 in Lubuntu/installer-prompt "Add a backend for the language selection menu"
[01:07] <tsimonq2> Well, then let's do it. I'll let you take the lead. :P
[01:07] <tsimonq2> (Since I'm already taking the lead on installer prompt, lol...)
[01:09] <tsimonq2> I'm taking an extended break, this might mean EOD, not sure yet.
[01:10] <arraybolt3> Sounds good.
[01:10] <arraybolt3> (both w.r.t. taking a break and w.r.t. me taking the lead on the upgrader rewrite)
[01:13] <tsimonq2> Sweet!
[01:13] <tsimonq2> Yeah literally all that's left is UX
[01:13] <tsimonq2> Functionality is totally there and works
[01:13] <tsimonq2> So anyone realistically could knock out installer-prompt...
[01:14] <tsimonq2> Anyway, o/
[02:56] <arraybolt3> !ping
 Did the sudo apt update plus non-existent app - all good (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> !ping)
[04:27] <arraybolt3> Leokolb: On a fresh install? Or a machine that was updated?
[04:27] <arraybolt3> (the !ping was just me testing my Internet connectivity)
 Fresh install .. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> Leokolb: On a fresh install? Or a machine that was updated?)
[04:34] <arraybolt3> oh weird.
 got message - unable to parse section data — sorry just woke up
 and could not fine command-not-found database ..think I saw this a while back in Ubuntu
[04:38] <arraybolt3> ah, then yeah, that's normal
 What did you expect to see? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> ah, then yeah, that's normal)
[04:39] <arraybolt3> What you mentioned is what I expected to happen, I was just looking for confirmation.
[04:40] <arraybolt3> It does need fixed, I just wasn't sure if it was something unique to me or not.
 Ok tks .. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> What you mentioned is what I expected to happen, I was just looking for confirmation.)
 yeah ..same reply in Ubuntu Budgie (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> It does need fixed, I just wasn't sure if it was something unique to me or not.)
 today's ISO failed see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/2045790
[17:42] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2045790 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Installation failed - external command finished with errors" [Undecided, New]
[19:10] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-powermanagement/+bug/2045799 Filed and assigned to you as requested, obviously no hurry in fixing it. I may take a swing at it if things calm down (though I have Britney and some other things to fight with).
[19:10] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2045799 in lxqt-powermanagement (Ubuntu) "Machines with a battery get a slightly annoying notification that a battery is present and charging" [Medium, New]
[19:15] <arraybolt3> I guess in the mean time I'll see if I can somehow get Britney working with my PPA.
 Hey aaron do you think leo's failure today it's related to us removing mulan
 Please excuse my talk to texans
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/0cb2c142/be_beaman.mp4
[23:33] <arraybolt3> Mulan?
[23:33] <arraybolt3> I dunno, been busy elsewhere most of today.
[23:33] <arraybolt3> I'll try and look into it when I get a chance.
[23:34] <arraybolt3> Oh, you mean Muon. No, I doubt they're related, but we'll find out I suppose.
 FYI guys to reduce our (and my) out of pocket costs at OVH I will be piecemeal migrating our infra over to my more powerful SSD-backed server in the Lubuntu segment I partitioned out for it.  This is cost cutting but will also increase performance.
 so some stuff might go AWOL here and there.