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cmaloneythat isn't what I'd call it00:13
cmaloneysomething something gtfo canonical00:13
Scary_Guy#debian-us-mi then?  Oh LOL00:14
Scary_GuyI say we just use #mugorg for this since it's not getting much other use anyway and already exists.00:14
Scary_GuyAlso, one less line in my server/channel buffer.00:15
Scary_GuySpeaking of, when can we start doing in person meetings again?  I miss those :(00:16
Scary_Guy"error: cannot remove "core20": snap "core20" is not removable: snap is being used by snap firefox." No, no it is not, let me do the thing, why won't you let me do the thing?00:20
Scary_GuyI also just removed Firefox00:20
cmaloneyUnfortunately I'm not in the position to do in-person anymore02:03
cmaloneyAnd our last meeting had more folks outside of the area than in the area02:05
cmaloneyI think there's still someone supporting Firefox as a .dev02:05
Scary_Guyoof02:17
cmaloney.deb, rather02:18
Scary_GuyFound a thing.  Starting apps as root is much faster than as my user account for whatever reason.02:30
Scary_GuyAlso if they start under an already running app like Steam02:30
Scary_GuyTerminals start up instantly too02:30
cmaloneyYeah, once things are cached it's fine02:33
cmaloneybut it's that first start02:33
Scary_GuyBut why is it so slow?03:01
Scary_GuyTakes like 20 seconds to start the app03:02
cmaloneyIf it's a snap then it's having to start the container03:27
Scary_GuyWell it's not since I ripped that system out as much as I possibly could.10:33
jrwrenstarting a linux container takes microseconds unless there is more going on.15:37
jrwrentis just a few function calls.15:37
jrwrensyscalls I mean15:37

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