[00:13] <cmaloney> that isn't what I'd call it
[00:13] <cmaloney> something something gtfo canonical
[00:14] <Scary_Guy> #debian-us-mi then?  Oh LOL
[00:14] <Scary_Guy> I say we just use #mugorg for this since it's not getting much other use anyway and already exists.
[00:15] <Scary_Guy> Also, one less line in my server/channel buffer.
[00:16] <Scary_Guy> Speaking of, when can we start doing in person meetings again?  I miss those :(
[00:20] <Scary_Guy> "error: cannot remove "core20": snap "core20" is not removable: snap is being used by snap firefox." No, no it is not, let me do the thing, why won't you let me do the thing?
[00:20] <Scary_Guy> I also just removed Firefox
[02:03] <cmaloney> Unfortunately I'm not in the position to do in-person anymore
[02:05] <cmaloney> And our last meeting had more folks outside of the area than in the area
[02:05] <cmaloney> I think there's still someone supporting Firefox as a .dev
[02:17] <Scary_Guy> oof
[02:18] <cmaloney> .deb, rather
[02:30] <Scary_Guy> Found a thing.  Starting apps as root is much faster than as my user account for whatever reason.
[02:30] <Scary_Guy> Also if they start under an already running app like Steam
[02:30] <Scary_Guy> Terminals start up instantly too
[02:33] <cmaloney> Yeah, once things are cached it's fine
[02:33] <cmaloney> but it's that first start
[03:01] <Scary_Guy> But why is it so slow?
[03:02] <Scary_Guy> Takes like 20 seconds to start the app
[03:27] <cmaloney> If it's a snap then it's having to start the container
[10:33] <Scary_Guy> Well it's not since I ripped that system out as much as I possibly could.
[15:37] <jrwren> starting a linux container takes microseconds unless there is more going on.
[15:37] <jrwren> tis just a few function calls.
[15:37] <jrwren> syscalls I mean