[01:16] <soloslinger> Has anyone tried to move the /var/log/journal directory to a different volume?  Is the only option to stop systemd-journal, mv the dir, symlink, and light things up?  I was kinda hoping there'd be a config option instead of the symlink move.
[01:19] <rbox> looks like it MIGHT respect a LOGS_DIRECTORY environment variable on journald
[01:38] <rfm> soloslinger, if you're just running low on space an alternative might be to adjust the size limits in journald.conf down.
[01:39] <soloslinger> rfm: Eh.  My devs have very verbose logs and my usage on the / volume is taking it to the face.  Hoping to move logs off to it's own volume to free up some of that.
[01:39] <soloslinger> Naturally the system is hot so I can't repartition or do anything more fancy at the moment.
[02:07] <leftyfb> soloslinger: just do a bind mount on top of it
[02:37] <kotgc> Hello
[02:38] <kotgc> Curious about installing VMM. livbirtd is running, however error on first VMM launch: Unable to connect to libvirt qemu:///system. Verify that the ‘libvirtd’ daemon is running.
[02:38] <kotgc> I find a reboot of the machine removes the error, however for a smooth install and start, there must be some command or step missing?
[02:42] <bray90820> So when run mount -a I get an error "mount: /etc/fstab: parse error at line 14 -- ignored"
[02:42] <bray90820> Here's my fstab
[02:42] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/duKRPuja
[02:44] <rbox> so fix line 14...
[02:47] <bray90820> I can't figure out what's wrong with it tho
[02:48] <rbox> well line 7 gives the format...
[02:48] <rbox> and it looks nothing like the other lines...
[04:05] <bray90820> So I'm having an issue with samba on ubuntu  any time I try to conenct to my 22.04 samba server it says "faield to retreve share llist from server Invalid argument"
[05:59] <rfm> bray90820, no real idea, but in the past I've found it helpful to run up the log level on the server and check the logs after running the failed command. https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setting_the_Samba_Log_Level
[06:01] <bray90820> rfm: The issue has been resolved I was wentering the wrong server name in smb.conf
[06:02] <rfm> bray90820, I was just about to say a stab would be to check the server entries in smb.conf.  Glad you got it fixed.
[06:03] <bray90820> Well I sorta got it fixed
[06:03] <bray90820> I still can't brows it from within Nautilus
[06:04] <bray90820> But entering it in Manually does work
[06:04] <bray90820> smb://192.168.1.8
[06:04] <Peppi> hello
[06:06] <Bashing-om> Hello Peppi - your support question ?
[06:06] <Peppi> I'm looking to do some development and thinking of creating an Ubuntu VM machine and using that to develop on. How bad of an idea is it and how much space should the VM be?
[06:06] <Peppi> Hello Bashing-om
[06:09] <Bashing-om> Peppi: Can not address you specifically, but a determinaing factor is the amount on ram on the host system.
[06:09] <Peppi> 64gigs
[06:10] <Bashing-om> Peppi: 64 gigs - one can go hog wild :P
[06:11] <Peppi> I'm more concerned about disk size to be honest
[06:13] <Peppi> everything I'm reading is tellimg me the size needs to be 25gb but looking here: https://www.osboxes.org/ubuntu/#ubuntu-23-10-vmware I see a 2gb vm machine
[06:15] <Peppi> Well I guess I better just try it
[06:18] <dgg12> hi
[07:01] <vuipuh> Good morning!
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> welcome vuipuh
[07:02] <vuipuh> We cannot get DNS to work on xunbutu-22.04 with PXE boot+nfs
[07:03] <vuipuh> system works fine, but to enable resolving we have to use network manager change "manual" to dhcp, every time we boot. Or call sudo dhclient, IIRC
[07:05] <vuipuh> it did not even work to use dhclient instead of internal via the dedicated config switch. I am sorry to not be able to provide any configs, since I don't have that system now at hand, and our firewall at work blocks IRC :-( . Does anybody have any howto to follow installing (x)ubuntu + PXE which addresses why DNS does not work?
[07:18] <vuipuh> Does nobody have any experience with ubuntu + network boot?
[07:22] <rfm> vuipuh, not for a long time (and was Solaris not ubuntu). But it sure sounds like the image is configured wrong.  What I'd try is logging into the server that has the image, chroot'ing into it, and using nmcli to set the connection to dhcp..
[07:23] <vuipuh> image is just a plain new installation + make bootable via nfs. So we need overlayroot of cause. nothing else done afaik, we restared from scratch, to be sure
[07:24] <vuipuh> nmcli on server, ok, we will try, thank you!
[07:25] <rfm> vuipuh, since dhcp is default for a new install, I don't know how it could have gotten reset... but good luck
[07:27] <rfm> vuipuh, ah, overlayroot (something I've never dealt with) but that explains why changing the config in the client isn't persistent...
[07:30] <vuipuh> 18.04 worked great, no need to handle network configuration besides telling the nfsroot ip. overlayroot must be concerned, but is not the problem, since we can always put new files to the server as soon as we realize they are needed. We watched /etc/NetworkManager and /var/lib/NetworkManager without success
[11:20] <xbox> hi
[11:30] <Paris> xbox did you try to install ubuntu on your console? lol
[11:30] <Paris> hi
[11:41] <xbox> hi
[11:52] <xbox> is anyone online?
[11:53] <CosmicDJ> depends
[11:54] <xbox> what kind of chat is this, what is going on?
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> !support | xbox
[11:55] <CosmicDJ> xbox: this is a support channel, ppl come in here and ask questions about ubuntu, if you just want to chat try the social/offtopic channels https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[11:56] <xbox> okey
[12:10] <TomyWork> I don't see this snap on ubuntu 18.04, even though I see most other snaps
[12:10] <TomyWork> https://snapcraft.io/install/prismlauncher/ubuntu
[12:11] <TomyWork> snap info/search prismlauncher yields no results, snap search prism yields two unrelated results
[12:14] <Mandem0110> TomyWork: pretty sure 18.04 is EOL...
[12:16] <zniavre> hello i can't find an offical way to uninstall snap package on my ubuntu
[12:16] <TomyWork> snap remove doesnt work?
[12:16] <Mandem0110> sudo snap remove *package*
[12:16] <zniavre> yes but there is no documentation on ubuntu.org website
[12:17] <TomyWork> have you tried "man snap"?
[12:17] <Mandem0110> ^
[12:17] <Mandem0110> !eol | TomyWork
[12:18] <zniavre> there is onmy a canonical webpage with how to installa and use snapd but no comment about how to unistall it
[12:18] <zniavre> is it intentional ?
[12:18] <zniavre> only*
[12:20] <TomyWork> Mandem0110, so that's the reason why some snaps dont show up?
[12:20] <ogra> zniavre, what exactly do you want ? do you want to remove a single snap package or do you want to remove snap support altogether ?
[12:20] <ogra> (this isnt clear from your questions above)
[12:21] <ogra> TomyWork, unlikely ...
[12:23] <ogra> TomyWork, snap packages have the ability to exclude their snaps from searches (the feature in the store for them is called "unlisting") ... this is often done for snaps that are not ready for user consumption yet ... snap find will not find it ... but since the snap actually exists, snap info will still give you the metadata
[12:23] <ogra> (and you will find its page on snapcraft.io ... which is essentially equivalent to "snap info" )
[12:24] <zniavre> wnat to understand why there is not a word on official documentation about how to uninstall snapd
[12:24] <ogra> zniavre, you uninstall snapd like any other package: sudo apt purge snapd
[12:24] <zniavre> not snap application but snapd
[12:25] <ogra> that commend should uninstall snapd and all snap packages ... (but note that snapd on ubuntu is a dependency of various metapackages, so it might come back since it is considered a part of the default OS)
[12:25] <ogra> *command
[12:25] <ice9> I purged "wine" and "wine64" packages but doing a filesystem search, still shows theses dirs https://pastebin.mozilla.org/ypVQSKC2  so why they were not removed by apt purge?
[12:26] <zniavre> ok ( not satisfied but ok)
[12:27] <ogra> ice9, some come from libwine, some from other packages ... you can install the apt-file command to do a reverse search for these paths and it will give you the package names
[12:28] <ogra> purge only purges the package, but not necessarily the dependencies it pulled in at install time (they might be used by other packages, so apt is careful about this)
[12:33] <ice9> ogra, thanks, also in snap, uninstalling programs doesn't remove some filesystem dirs, how to clean that?
[12:34] <ogra> ice9, which ones ? (also see "snap help remove" ... there is a --purge option to it)
[12:35] <ogra> typically all non-clssic snaps remove all their dirs at uninstall ... (classic snaps are different though, since they run unconfined and could create files and dirs on the OS) ...
[12:36] <ogra> if you dont use --purge they will take a snapshot of the user data though ... so in case you re-install it will simply pick up where you left it before
[12:37] <ogra> (but that snapshot is stored in a different place and there should definitely not be any dirs left behind)
[12:39] <ice9> thanks a lot ogra
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:02] <Mandem0110> Pretty sure you're a bot saying hi in random channels!
[13:03] <Mandem0110> !offtopic | BluesKaj
[13:04] <ogra> lol, BluesKaj is surely not a bot 🙂
[13:06] <Mandem0110> ogra: why would they keep saying hi every day in a support channel then? I checked logs, it's ahi every day and disappears...
[13:07] <ogra> to be friendly `
[13:07] <ogra> ?
[13:07] <Mandem0110> Not needed in a *support* channel
[13:08] <mirtec001> Morning everyone
[13:08] <Mandem0110> ogra: that's why we have off topic...
[13:09] <Mandem0110> Honestly never saw BluesKaj help anyone and always an hi lol
[13:09]  * Mandem0110 will be quiet 🤫
[13:16] <ogra> well, i'm actually adjusting my clock after BluesKaj's hi ... since about a decade 😉
[13:19] <BluesKaj> hey ogra
[13:29] <mirtec001> HI ogra
 TomyWork, […] snap info will still give you the metadata
[14:07] <TomyWork> but it doesn't :/
[14:08] <TomyWork> lemme find a 22.04 box and check if it's available there
[14:08] <ogra> it does for me here ... "snap info prismlauncher" clearly gets me info
[14:09] <ogra> (note that this snap also only had a release to the edge channel yet)
[14:09] <TomyWork> "snap info prismlaucher" doesn't
[14:09] <TomyWork> -_-
[14:10] <TomyWork> ok so the fact that it didnt show up in a search for "prism", compounded with that typo, led me to believe it couldnt be found
[14:10] <ogra> that is expected
[14:10] <TomyWork> I didnt know they could exclude themselves from search
[14:10] <ogra> but info (without typo) shoudl work
[14:10] <TomyWork> and i didnt notice the typo earlier :D
[14:10] <ogra> 😄
[14:11] <ogra> install should also work if info works ... but the point is the devs dont want it widely available yet (so they could give you the name and tell you to snap install it to help them testing etc)
[14:11] <TomyWork> yeah i need --edge
[14:11] <ogra> yup
[14:12] <TomyWork> it told me that. all is well :)
[14:12] <ogra> 🙂
[14:15] <TomyWork> just one thing. i wanna isolate the crummy minecraft mods from the rest of the machine a bit. jailmode should do that, but I also want to prevent certain connections. what do I do? can I firewall the snap and only let specific network connections out?
[14:17] <ogra> te snap is already strict so you dont need any extra jailmode ...
[14:18] <ogra> regarding networking, there is sadly no fine grained network mgmt for snaps yet, it is either on or off (you can make sure to disconnect "network-bind" that will prevent it from opening any sockets though
[14:18] <ogra> beyond this you can surely firewall somthing on a host level somehow ..
[14:18] <ogra> but there is no snap feature that would help here
[14:19] <ravage> ogra: do you know anyone who could help with an electron snap? i tried to help the guys of deltachat with their desktop client. but electron really does not like me at all :D
[14:19] <ogra> ravage, heh, i'm probably one of the most experience guys for electron snaps ... point them at my GH pages, there are a lot example packages
[14:19] <ogra> (GH name is ogra1)
[14:19] <ravage> i can point myself there :P
[14:20] <ravage> it works in general. it just does not quit properly and the tray icon does not work. probably because of missing dbus permissions
[14:21] <ravage> it works find in unrestricted mode
[14:21] <ravage> *fine
[14:21] <ravage> i just dont know what permissions i could give it really
[14:21] <ogra> dbus stuff for tray icons is in the unity7 plug IIRC (not very intuitive 😛)
[14:22] <ravage> i think i even saw that but let me check if that would solve it
[14:22] <ravage> im almost sure that was attempt 124 of 250 or so.
[14:23] <ogra> https://github.com/ogra1/mattermost-client is using the tray icon (but i think i just used the gnome extension fo that one that brings along all the fonts/plugs/themes etc)
[14:23] <ravage> unity7 as plug should be all i have to do right?
[14:23] <ogra> yeah
[14:23] <ravage> i will check that example. maybe i find something useful
[14:24] <ogra> in general using the gnome extension is the easiest for any desktop snaps ... so you dont get issues with fonts, mounse pointers, themes etc
[14:26] <ravage> yep i did some in the past
[14:26] <ravage> all working great
[14:26] <ravage> just this one really gives me headaches :)
[14:54] <ravage> not sure what fixed it. maybe the extra environment stuff i added from your example
[14:54] <ravage> but the tray icon works now :)
[15:08] <loswedseded> are packages deliberately kept back due to phased upgrading?
[15:10] <ravage> phased updates is the most common cause for kept back pakages
[15:11] <ravage> *packages
[15:11] <ravage> can also be cause by third party repos
[16:29] <warmach1ne> hi all
[16:38] <warmach1ne> yo
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> welcome warmach1ne
[16:38]  * warmach1ne wow
[16:39] <warmach1ne> i don't use irc for twenty years
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> you joined the ubuntu support channel warmach1ne you can ask ubuntu related questions here
[16:40] <warmach1ne> cool good to know
[16:41] <warmach1ne> i searching a good win emulator ... i remeber the wine... in this time nothing change here ??
[16:42] <ravage> wine is not an emulator. that is what it stands for :)
[16:43] <ravage> but it is still the best tool to run windows apps on linux
[16:44] <warmach1ne> ok thx
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> warmach1ne: or playonlinux, or search if your fav app has a snap
[16:44] <warmach1ne> i encountered a proton ... but if i good understand this is only for games
[16:46] <ravage> that is valve's fixed on wine
[16:46] <ravage> it works best by just installing steam really (for games)
[16:46] <ravage> most of my steam library just works
[16:49] <warmach1ne> ok thx for info .. guys
[16:49] <warmach1ne> so i install wine
[16:50] <warmach1ne> hmmm u know command sudo apt-get wine ??
[16:50] <RoadsterFL> you mean apt-get install
[16:51] <warmach1ne> yea
[16:51] <RoadsterFL> if wine is present in your repos
[16:52] <warmach1ne> mhm
[16:53] <warmach1ne> sorry i very long time don't use linux, last time i used mandriva distrubution
[16:55] <RoadsterFL> I guess wine is pretty much "old world" in terms of games... for programs I guess it is the best choice if you defineately want to run it on linux
[17:01] <WeeBey> i read something recently about Steam's new x layer performing slightly better than win11 at running windows games.
[17:01] <WeeBey> I forgot the name of their thing, funny enough.
[17:02] <leftyfb> WeeBey: feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[17:10] <kachamr> hi, does anyone use zathura (document viewer)?
[17:13] <ravage> is that your real question? because the answer is yes. im sure anyone does.
[17:16] <kachamr> i was not sure, my question is about document content index, can i somehow configure look of it (i want to set zoom level)
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> kachamr: can the documentation help you? https://pwmt.org/projects/zathura/documentation/
[17:30] <kachamr> i am reading it now. I thought that someone have faced this problem (index is uncomfortably small) and came up with solution
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> kachamr: we usualy focus on ubuntu issues here mostly, specific apps on ubuntu might need some deeper search or specific channels
[18:57] <gash> hey
[19:06] <guest12398578196> hi! how can I disable ubuntu server asking for "rich mode" when autoinstalling using serial port(virt-install)?
[20:03] <esv> hey, folks I am troubleshooting a connectivity for a particular vm and not getting anything relevant, looking at the /var/log/dmesg file I found this one:
[20:03] <esv> audit(1701321479.546:15): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" profile="/{,usr/}sbin/dhclient" name="/usr/bin/true" pid=630 comm="isc-worker0000" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[20:04] <esv> apparently the server hasn't rebooted but wondering whether that would be causing the problem.
[20:08] <charles> I hope to upgrade, but when I do, I receive s message and installation will not continue. something about 3rd party software
[20:26] <iconoclast_hero> I'm on https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ .. I wanted to get back to an actual release and I expected that clicking on the ubuntu releases would take me to a webpage.
[20:26] <iconoclast_hero> is it supposed to go to a file-system directory listing? https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/  it's confusing because I'm looking for something web driven so I can get to e.g., the Jammy page: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jammy/source/current/source/
[20:27] <iconoclast_hero> are there no more .torrents to get .iso?
[20:33] <akik> iconoclast_hero: https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index
[20:34] <iconoclast_hero> thanks
[20:39] <michael_> Hey, on Ubuntu LTS 22.04 I've got a notification of the Core 18 update, but neither the changelog nor the update itself seems to be available. Was it retracted but still noted in the update schedule log?
[20:41] <CosmicDJ> michael_: core18 sounds like a snap
[20:42] <michael_> @CosmicDJ - yup it is
[20:43] <michael_> Snap 20231027 is the one giving problems
[20:44] <akik> michael_: what's a snap 20231027 ?
[20:44] <ioria> michael_, mount | grep core18
[20:45] <michael_> Sorry, probably phrased that badly, but meant to give the version number I notice in the update status @akik
[20:47] <michael_> @ioria - /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core18_2796.snap on /snap/core18/2796 type squashfs (ro,nodev,relatime,errors=continue,threads=single,x-gdu.hide)
[20:48] <michael_> Same for core18_2812
[20:48] <ioria> it's ok... what's the probelm ?
[20:50] <michael_> Can't update the Core18 at all. 'Unable to update "Core18" - snap has no updates available". While the system tries to push version 20231027 on me as an update
[20:50] <ioria> it's already updated
[20:51] <ioria> yoou can remove 2796 if you want
[20:52] <michael_> ... Huh. Misread it then. Still not sure why it tries to push an 'update', but idk. Thanks at least, I can then ignore that 'update'
[20:53] <ioria> michael_, if you want to remove old snaps you can use this script (it's safe): https://termbin.com/0z936
[20:59] <armadefuego> Hello all,
[20:59] <armadefuego> I am having some issues with my mouse. They appear after my machine wakes from sleep. 23.04, latest updates.
[20:59] <charles> charles
[21:00] <armadefuego> Hi Charles
[21:55] <Fossil> Any way of figuring out which process is accessing a CIFS share (on the client side)? fatrace doesnt show anything but on the server I can see with fatrace that this client is opening files
[21:56] <leftyfb>  Fossil lsof
[21:56] <echelon> tcpdump
[21:56] <Fossil> lsof doesnt seem to show anything accessing smb either
[21:56] <leftyfb> Fossil: then nothing is being accessed
[21:57] <Fossil> I can see it on the server
[21:57] <Fossil> Or its too fast of an operation for lsof to see
[21:57] <leftyfb> Fossil: lsof -r1
[21:58] <Fossil> nada
[22:02] <Fossil> Something is scanning the entire dir. Its mounted on an Ubuntu client as CIFS but not a single tool seems to be able to see reads/writes to it
[22:02] <leftyfb> Fossil: you realize being mounted is network activity right?
[22:03] <Fossil> Yes but since its mounted on /mnt somewhere I figured it would also show up as FS activity. How would I see which program is accessing it
[22:04] <leftyfb> Fossil: lsof
[22:04] <Fossil> tcpdump just shows source/dest which I already know
[22:04] <Fossil> Doesnt show up in lsof for some reason
[22:04] <leftyfb> Fossil: then nothing is accessing it
[22:05] <Fossil> Well I can see it on the server and using tcpdump on the client
[22:05] <leftyfb> you can see what exactly?
[22:06] <Fossil> Traffic when I hear the array going plus I see files being read with fatrace on the server
[22:06] <Fossil> by this client
[22:07] <leftyfb> Fossil: it's more than likely just because it's mounted
[22:07] <Fossil> I can see the exact files its reading
[22:09] <leftyfb> indexing maybe?
[22:09] <Fossil> nope cant be it
[22:10] <leftyfb> why not?
[22:48] <jono> when I'm running flash-kernel in a chroot, recently it's started exiting without any action, without any error, and an exit code of 0. --- I'd like to file a question or a bug on launchpad, but that's really not a lot of information to provide to help diagnose the problem. --- I've tried running `strace /usr/sbin/flash-kernel`, but all I get is a "test_ptrace_get_syscall_info: PTRACE_TRACEME: Function not implemented" which isn't super helpful. --- can anyone
[22:48] <jono>  suggest any other suggestions for figuring out why the flash-kernel halts immediately so I have a better chance of troubleshooting or filing a bug report?
[22:59] <bobdobbs> Hi. If I plug in either a microphone or a midi keyboard into my machine running ubuntu, then I can't detect them with software tools. I'm hoping that someone here can give me a hand with diagnostics.
[22:59] <bobdobbs> I suspect that I might have a hardware issue. Like maybe a problem with usb? I don't know.
[23:00] <bobdobbs> Oh yeah - I've tried with two mics. One of then via usb, one of them via a normal audio socket
[23:01] <Habbie> does lsusb show the usb devices?
[23:02] <bobdobbs> This is the output of lsusb: https://hastebin.com/share/jetozerabu.yaml
[23:03] <bobdobbs> line 3 is interesting. That looks like the midi controller that I've got plugged in
[23:03] <bobdobbs> oh no. maybe that's line 4
[23:03] <bobdobbs> tbh, I'm not really sure how to read this output
[23:16] <JanC> bobdobbs: line 4 is obviously the MIDI controller
[23:16] <JanC> line 8 is another USB audio device
[23:19] <JanC> line 8 is an USB audio device from MSI
[23:20] <root> google chrome