[15:59] <liushuyu> o/
[15:59] <bdrung> \o
[16:00] <ginggs> o/
[16:00] <zhsj> o/
[16:00] <upils> o/
[16:00] <slyon> ö/
[16:00] <mateus-morais> o/
[16:00] <ogayot> o/
[16:00] <adrien> o/
[16:00] <mkukri> o/
[16:01] <juliank> o/
[16:01] <enr0n> o/
[16:01] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:01] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[16:01] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-07-december-2023/
[16:02] <ravikant_> o/
[16:03] <dviererbe> o/
[16:09] <bdrung> adrien, can you link the openssl discussion from your discource post?
[16:10] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:10] <bdmurray> I was still reading
[16:10] <bdmurray> too many people on the team
[16:11] <juliank> Reading is time bound to 10 minutes!
[16:11] <juliank> #link https://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:11] <juliank> It seems we do not acutally have https right now
[16:11] <schopin> bdmurray: and think if we all wrote as lengthy posts as yours!
[16:12] <juliank> lots of old bugs
[16:12] <juliank> bug 1831747
[16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1831747 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "fixrtc hook requires e2fsprogs package, but that is not a dependency" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831747
[16:13] <bdrung> yes, we should tag that one.
[16:13] <adrien> bdrung: done
[16:13] <juliank> bug 1969394
[16:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969394 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Settings & Livepatch' button opens 'settings' tab, not livepatch" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969394
[16:13] <juliank> hmm that is still desktop design work
[16:16] <juliank> bug 2043713
[16:16] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2043713 in apport (Ubuntu) "TestApportValgrind.test_valgrind_min_installed fails on armhf: Invalid write of size 4" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2043713
[16:16] <juliank> what's the status there?
[16:16] <adrien> bdmurray: not too many people: people being too productive
[16:18] <juliank> bug 2015538 I don't know we probably should move it to oo
[16:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015538 in dbus-broker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-broker" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015538
[16:18] <slyon> We still want to get dbus-broker landed, but are looking for someone with the resources to implement the missing bits and pieces (dbus-run-session). Nothing to do for us right now.
[16:18] <slyon> I guess we could probably remove the tag
[16:20] <juliank> bug 2017401 I still need to sync on that
[16:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Jammy) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017401
[16:20] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:20] <juliank> oh empty
[16:21] <juliank> oh I forgot mm, didn't I
[16:21] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:21] <juliank> both bugs there are actually for desktop, and co-owned things
[16:21] <juliank> bug 2041518
[16:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041518 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:5:_g_log_abort:g_log_writer_default:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_standard" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041518
[16:21] <juliank> bug 2041831
[16:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041831 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager:11:g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a:g_object_ref:gdk_event_copy:pygi_boxed_copy_in_place:arg_boxed_to_py_cleanup" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041831
[16:21] <juliank> (jftr)
[16:22] <juliank> OK jumping back to LTSses
[16:22] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:22] <juliank> bug 2044104
[16:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2044104 in s390-tools (Ubuntu) "[UBUNTU 20.04] chzdev -e is rebuilding initramfs even with zdev:early=0 set" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2044104
[16:22] <juliank> schopin:
[16:23] <schopin> Yeah I need opinions from the people on the team that know things about initramfs :)
[16:24]  * bdrung hides.
[16:24] <juliank> We don't know what all the acronyms mean
[16:24] <schopin> Basically zdev adds some udev rules, but might not want to ship them depending on some settings.
[16:25] <schopin> Either we provide an escape hatch from our initrd script that currently ships all the installed udev rules into the initrd, or we modify the s390-tools packaging to remove the offending rules after the fact (dunno how that would work, though)
[16:26] <juliank> I do not believe the skip every rule with 41 is a good idea tbh
[16:28] <schopin> I think we should tag this and find a volunteer to look into it.
[16:29] <slyon> +1
[16:29] <bdrung> +1 (i can assist on the initramfs-tools side)
[16:29] <schopin> bdrung: sounds like you're volunteering to take that card :P
[16:30] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:30] <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:31] <juliank> libauthen-sasl-perl is with waveform still I think
[16:31] <waveform> that one's just waiting on an AA to kill it, feel free to give me another
[16:31] <juliank> libio-prompter-perl is with danilogondolfo still I think
[16:31] <juliank> waveform: ack
[16:31] <danilogondolfo> yes
[16:31] <juliank> libuv1 is with ginggs
[16:32] <juliank> We'll skip python3-defaults stuff
[16:32] <juliank> pillow broken by python-svg.path/6.3-1: bdrung
[16:33] <bdrung> okay
[16:33] <juliank> efibootmgr mkukri
[16:33] <adrien> I'm unable to take on anything because of armhf time_t which is on a very tight deadline now
[16:33] <slyon> I cannot take anything, as I'll be out for the next couple of weeks
[16:33] <juliank> libcgi-pm-perl:  cpete
[16:33] <juliank> apt: juliank
[16:34] <juliank> libffi: dbungert
[16:34] <dbungert> ack
[16:34] <juliank> gcc-13-cross: doko
[16:35] <juliank> libfido2: waveform
[16:35] <waveform> ack
[16:35] <upils> I can take psycopg2
[16:35] <juliank> psycopg2 upils
[16:36] <ravikant_> isnt psychopg2 armhf?
[16:36] <upils> oh right -_-
[16:36] <schopin> could be why upils volunteered ;)
[16:37] <ravikant_> yes, Error: websocket: bad handshake
[16:37] <juliank> ok so psychopg2 and sqlite3 I guess are just retries bdmurray will retry
[16:38] <adrien_web> abi-compliance-checker is OOM'ing my machine (10
[16:38] <juliank> systemd: enr0n (probably just retry too)
[16:38] <adrien_web> G times four)
[16:38] <juliank> bash is also infra issues really but ...
[16:39] <juliank> bash: upils might want to retry those
[16:39] <juliank> OK let's skip everything with armhf only
[16:40] <juliank> libfile-fcntllock-perl blocking perl: schopin by personal request
[16:40] <juliank> skipping over the big Perl section
[16:40] <bdmurray> sbuild looks legit
[16:41] <juliank> sbuild blocking perl: upils
[16:41] <juliank> (finally)
[16:41] <juliank> distro-info-data I'd say bdrung wants to also look at this but really utkarsh uploaded that so mmh
[16:42] <juliank> oof
[16:42] <juliank> just armhf
[16:42] <upils> ack
[16:42] <bdmurray> zlib also has some non-armhf failures
[16:42] <mkukri> coreutils blocked by initramfs-tools on amd64? or is that a known thing?
[16:42] <juliank> zlib vs booth/1.0-237-gdd88847-4ubuntu3: xypron
[16:43] <juliank> zlib vs burp: slyon
[16:43] <xypron> ok
[16:43] <zhsj> juliank: slyon is out next week, i can take zlib vs burp
[16:43] <juliank> zlib vs burp: zhsj (reassigned from slyon)
[16:44] <juliank> zlib vs mdtraj: mateus-morais
[16:44] <mateus-morais> juliank: ack
[16:44] <juliank> zlib vs ruby-nokogiri ogayot
[16:44] <ogayot> juliank: ack
[16:45] <juliank> zlib vs suricata: liushuyu
[16:45] <bdmurray> git
[16:46] <juliank> git vs dumb-jump-el/0.5.4-2: pushkar (don't know nick)
[16:46] <juliank> git vs git-filter-repo: vpa1977
[16:46] <juliank> never mind
[16:48] <juliank> coreutils / initramfs-tools  with bdmurray and Skia
[16:48] <juliank> And I think that's a wrap on that bit
[16:49] <juliank> sil2100 might want to pick up an item if he has time
[16:49] <juliank> #topic AOB
[16:50] <juliank> I planned to take a day off before the break but I think it's not going to happen, lol
[16:50] <slyon> I'll be EOY after this meeting. Have a nice break :)
[16:50] <juliank> I'll be taking a 3 week break though, I'll only be back on Jan 8 I think it is
[16:51] <mkukri> im gone from the 13th, and back on jan 3rd
[16:52] <juliank> #endmeeting
[16:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:52:31 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-12-07-16.01.moin.txt
[19:59] <mIk3_08> Hi
[19:59] <leokolb> Hello
[20:00] <tsimonq2> o/
[20:00] <mapreri> the board is figuring out who is present today ^^
[20:00] <ilvipero> Hello
[20:01] <lucyllewy> hi @tsimonq2
[20:01] <mapreri> ilvipero: so, what's Aaron's nick?
[20:01] <tsimonq2> aaronprisk
[20:01] <ilvipero> aaronprisk
[20:01] <mapreri> ahah
[20:01] <mapreri> that was easy
[20:01] <aaronprisk> Hello! Just my name :)
[20:01] <mIk3_08> @mapreri Thanks
[20:01] <lucyllewy> I couldn't remember when I put aaronprisk on the schedule
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> Missed opportunity for ricepriskytreat
[20:02] <tsimonq2> That's what I was saying! heh
[20:02] <ilvipero> :D
[20:02] <mapreri> lucyllewy: aaronprisk is very much not an IRC person - doesn't have his own nickname :(
[20:02] <aaronprisk> It's usually RicePRISKYtreat or AKernelPanic everywhere else lol
[20:02] <lucyllewy> 🤭
[20:03] <Eickmeyer> 😂
[20:03] <tsimonq2> KernelPRISKYPanic?
[20:03] <aaronprisk> That's not bad..
[20:03] <lucyllewy> gimme a second and I'll get the meeting under way
[20:04] <tsimonq2> Also, hey leokolb!
[20:04] <mapreri> lucyllewy: damn, I /part'ed accidentally, can you /invite me or something…? -.-'
[20:05] <lucyllewy> where did you part from?
[20:05] <mapreri> rmb
[20:05] <lucyllewy> I still see you in there
[20:05] <mapreri> then I messed up with my bouncer u.u
[20:05] <lucyllewy> *giggles*
[20:05] <lucyllewy> ok, are we all here?
[20:06]  * Bashing-om here
[20:06] <mapreri> I think we are
[20:06] <lucyllewy> #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board
[20:06] <meetingology> Meeting started at 20:06:14 UTC.  The chair is lucyllewy.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[20:06] <lucyllewy> #chair lucyllewy
[20:06] <meetingology> Current chairs: lucyllewy
[20:06] <mIk3_08> hi Bashing-om
[20:06] <lucyllewy> here comes a big paste:
[20:06] <lucyllewy> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 7th December 2023 (20:00). The wiki page for the Review Boards is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[20:06] <lucyllewy> We will attempt to get through all the applicants that have added themselves to that list, or posted a thread to the Ubuntu Discourse, before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the complete list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[20:06] <lucyllewy> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[20:06] <lucyllewy> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page or Ubuntu Discourse thread. After the introduction, the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[20:06] <lucyllewy> During this time, it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[20:06] <lucyllewy> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If most of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (Feel free congratulate them!)
[20:06] <lucyllewy> Now, with any further ado, let's get started with the first applicant...
[20:07] <lucyllewy> #topic Aaron Prisk
[20:07] <lucyllewy> first up we've for aaronprisk
[20:08] <mIk3_08> @aaronprisk is scheduled 15 i Thuink
[20:08] <mIk3_08> think
[20:08] <lucyllewy> aaronprisk: can you introduce yourself to the board and share the links to your wiki/discourse application and your launchpad
[20:09] <tsimonq2> mIk3_08: Nope, agenda officially says today. You're looking at the date added. :)
[20:09] <aaronprisk> Hello all! :) My name is Aaron Prisk, I am a Community Engineer at Canonical. Prior to my time there I worked in public education for 12 years. Here is my application: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/aaron-prisk-membership-application/40246
[20:10] <mIk3_08> tsimonq2 ah i see... am i schedule today? Date added? Dec 15?
[20:10] <lucyllewy> for the record aaronprisk 's LP page: https://launchpad.net/~aaronprisk
[20:10] <mIk3_08> Today is Dec. 7
[20:11] <mIk3_08> How come? tsimonq2
[20:11] <lucyllewy> mIk3_08: please leave the floor until your turn
[20:11] <mIk3_08> @lucyllewy okay. Thanks
[20:12] <lucyllewy> you are scheduled for today after the others
[20:12] <mapreri> (if there is still enough time after the others)
[20:13] <lucyllewy> Now the board members have had a chance to read through, I will open the floor for questions and ask the first one that we must ask every applicant:
[20:13] <lucyllewy> You have signed the Code of Conduct. Do you affirm that you have read and understood the whole document, and do you agree to be bound by the terms for the duration of your membership should it be granted?
[20:13] <aaronprisk> Yes
[20:13] <lucyllewy> coolbeans. I didn't expect anything less from someone on the community team :P
[20:14] <lucyllewy> ok, if any board members have any questions for Aaron the time to ask is now :-)
[20:14] <aaronprisk> We are swift to kick out the imposters from the team :)
[20:14] <Bashing-om> no questions
[20:15] <mapreri> I have one question: I appreciate (A LOT! - it's clear you've done much more to me in that field u.u) your effort to spread FOSS to the wider world.  However do you have any example of contributions you've done to the Ubuntu community specifically before your time at Canonical?
[20:16]  * mapreri is being mean  }:->
[20:16] <lucyllewy> hah. I just saw that Eickmeyer has put a last minute testimonial on the thread 4 minutes ago :p
[20:17]  * Eickmeyer giggles
[20:18] <lucyllewy> aaronprisk: did you see mapreri 's question?
[20:18] <aaronprisk> I would say most of the work to the community prior to Canonical would have taken the form of advocacy and some support. In my efforts with some non-profit orgs here in the US and Canada we've managed to introduce about 15 thousand students to Ubuntu which I hope in time leads to a host of new users, contributors and future members.
[20:18] <lucyllewy> aah
[20:19] <lucyllewy> I jumped the gun :P
[20:19] <mapreri> aaronprisk: ACK, thank you for the clarification.
[20:19] <aaronprisk> Sorry I was checking for any glaring typos haha
[20:19] <lucyllewy> any more questions?
[20:20] <mapreri> aaronprisk: worry not, everybody in the channel is equipped with typo-fixing eyes :P
[20:20] <lucyllewy> if not, then if there is anyone present who'd like to provide an in-person testimonial then you may do so now
[20:20] <arraybolt3> o/
[20:20] <lucyllewy> arraybolt3: if you have a testimonial then you may type it now
[20:21]  * tsimonq2 watches as arraybolt3 panics and chuckles
[20:21] <arraybolt3> The times I've worked with Aaron Prisk aren't many, but I've worked with him to fix a severe issue with the Ubuntu Wiki once (someone tried to use it as a password manager). He was very responsive, helpful, and got the issue taken care of quickly. He's also assisted me with other tasks related to Ubuntu infra, which I am very thankful for.
[20:22] <lucyllewy> ooh, ubuntu wiki password manager... why didn't I think of that?! :P
[20:22] <lucyllewy> ok, if we're all good then I'll move onto the vote
[20:22] <lucyllewy> #vote Aaron Prisk's application for Membership
[20:22] <meetingology> Please vote on: Aaron Prisk's application for Membership
[20:22] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
[20:22] <arraybolt3> I thought I should mention something positive and hope I didn't just look silly :P
[20:22] <mapreri> +1
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 received from mapreri
[20:22] <Bashing-om> +1 Documened long term -sustained- contributions with supporting testimomials.
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 Documened long term -sustained- contributions with supporting testimomials. received from Bashing-om
[20:22] <lucyllewy> #voters lucyllewy mapreri Kilos Bashing-om
[20:22] <meetingology> Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, lucyllewy, mapreri
[20:23] <lucyllewy> +1 woweee!
[20:23] <meetingology> +1 woweee! received from lucyllewy
[20:23] <lucyllewy> if Kilos isn't here I believe he's a +1 as well
[20:23] <Bashing-om> +1 Documened long term -sustained- contributions with supporting testimomials.
[20:23] <meetingology> +1 Documened long term -sustained- contributions with supporting testimomials. received from Bashing-om
[20:23] <lucyllewy> you can't vote more than once, Bashing-om :P
[20:24] <lucyllewy> #endvote
[20:24] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Aaron Prisk's application for Membership
[20:24] <meetingology> Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
[20:24] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:24] <lucyllewy> congratulations aaronprisk
[20:24] <Eickmeyer> 🥳
[20:24] <tsimonq2> 🎉🎉🎉
[20:24] <lucyllewy> #topic Mauro Gaspari
[20:24] <aaronprisk> Thank you all so much! For the votes and for the incredibly kind testimonials that you all left. This is a phenomenal community and I’m very honored :)
[20:24] <tsimonq2> aaronprisk: Just keep doing what you're doing <3
[20:24] <mIk3_08> Congratz aaronprisk
[20:25] <lucyllewy> ilvipero: can you introduce yourself to the board and share your links to your application and LP profile
[20:25] <lucyllewy> aaronprisk: the testimonials were epic
[20:25] <ilvipero> Hello, my name is Mauro, but most people call me vipero, including my parents. I am Italian, I live in Switzerland and I have been an incurable Debian and Ubuntu fanboy since what feels to be forever. I always refrained from applying for membershp because I am usually more focused on what I can do than what I can take. But at this point I think applying for membership means being able to contribute even more to the Ubuntu project. So here I am.
[20:25] <ilvipero> Disclaimer, I now work for Canonical in the community team.
[20:25] <ilvipero> This is the link to my application: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mauro-gaspari-membership-application/40249
[20:25] <ilvipero> This is the link to my launchpad:  https://launchpad.net/~ilvipero
[20:25] <mapreri> aaronprisk: those (like ilvipero's) were impressive testimonials.  Nowadays people comes to the meeting with very very few testimonials alas…
[20:26] <lucyllewy> While the board members check out your links and statement I'll ask the first question:
[20:26] <lucyllewy> You have signed the Code of Conduct. Do you affirm that you have read and understood the whole document, and do you agree to be bound by the terms for the duration of your membership should it be granted?
[20:26] <ilvipero> Yes
[20:26] <lucyllewy> awesome
[20:26] <lucyllewy> I didn't expect anything less :-)
[20:27] <lucyllewy> ok, board members, start your engines ^H^H^H I mean ask your questions
[20:27]  * mapreri is happy
[20:27] <lucyllewy> awesome
[20:27] <tsimonq2> I'm not on the UMB, but could you explain your Launchpad karma? (In full support.)
[20:27] <lucyllewy>  Bashing-om ?
[20:28]  * tsimonq2 gets to be mean this time ;)
[20:28]  * lucyllewy bops tsimonq2 on the noggin :P
[20:28] <arraybolt3> *slaps tsimonq2 with a wet fish and then vanishes before causing too much disruption*
[20:28] <ilvipero> 4 is the perfect number!
[20:28] <lucyllewy> ilvipero: it's missing the 2 on the right-hand end :P
[20:29] <tsimonq2> That's it, ilvipero can't get membership until his karma is exactly 42. :P
[20:29] <ilvipero> I have not been super active on Launchpad but more on other platforms, such as writing documentation or helping flavours
[20:29] <lucyllewy> hah
[20:29] <Bashing-om> lucyllewy: I frequent Discourse daily - have seen ilvipero's impresive credentials:)
[20:29] <ilvipero> I should have reached 42 then asked for it to be frozen forever. I still can do that though
[20:29] <lucyllewy> the testimonials are awesome epic amazeballs again
[20:30] <lucyllewy> does anyone want to provide an in-person testimonial?
[20:30]  * Eickmeyer adds last minute testimonial again 💀
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> j/k
[20:30] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: Hey, while you're at it, add one for leokolb too ;P
[20:30] <lucyllewy> ok, I can move onto the vote then....
[20:30] <aaronprisk> If I may say one thing as the biased community team comrade of Mauro: I have spent countless hours with Mauro over the past year and he is an infinite well of energy and enthusiasm. He loves this community and exemplifies what has made it so great for so long.
[20:31] <lucyllewy> <3 thank you aaronprisk
[20:31] <lucyllewy> #vote Mauro's application for Membership
[20:31] <meetingology> Please vote on: Mauro's application for Membership
[20:31] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
[20:31] <lucyllewy> ok. shoot your voting guns
[20:31] <mapreri> fwiw, I can also endorse ilvipero based on my personal interactions with him over the past year, correlated with the italy loco :)
[20:32] <lucyllewy> again, I believe Kilos is +1
[20:32] <mapreri> +1
[20:32] <meetingology> +1 received from mapreri
[20:32] <Bashing-om> +1 Again - documened long term -sustained- contributions with supporting testimomials carries the day.
[20:32] <meetingology> +1 Again - documened long term -sustained- contributions with supporting testimomials carries the day. received from Bashing-om
[20:32] <lucyllewy> +1 from me too. amazing work.
[20:32] <meetingology> +1 from me too. amazing work. received from lucyllewy
[20:32] <lucyllewy> #endvote
[20:32] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Mauro's application for Membership
[20:32] <meetingology> Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
[20:32] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:32] <lucyllewy> weee
[20:32] <mapreri> that was easy!
[20:32] <lucyllewy> two down!
[20:32] <lucyllewy> well done Mauro!
[20:32]  * lucyllewy accelerates
[20:32] <ilvipero> Thank you all, wohooooooo!
[20:32] <aaronprisk> Woooo!
[20:33] <lucyllewy> we are now moving at 2 miles per hour!
[20:33] <mIk3_08> biased community @aaronprisk :-D
[20:33] <tsimonq2> 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
[20:33] <lucyllewy> #topic Leó Kolbeinsson
[20:33] <lucyllewy> leokolb: can you introduce yourself to the board and share your links to your application and LP profile
[20:33] <Eickmeyer> 🥳
[20:34] <leokolb> Hello all – my name is Leó Kolbeinsson and am a Network and Security consultant in Iceland and have been involved with daily ISO testing of Ubuntu (server/desktop/WSL/RaspPi) and other flavors for the past 6 and half years. In the past I was a Lubuntu member and Lubuntu Council member but have expanded my interest to all flavors. As stated in my
[20:34] <leokolb> application I wish to continue to help Ubuntu and flavors to maintain their high quality.
[20:34] <leokolb> My application link : https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/leo-kolbeinsson-membership-application/40335/11
[20:34] <leokolb> launchpad link: https://launchpad.net/~leok
[20:35] <lucyllewy> and again while the board reviews your posts I'll ask the important question:
[20:35] <lucyllewy> You have signed the Code of Conduct. Do you affirm that you have read and understood the whole document, and do you agree to be bound by the terms for the duration of your membership should it be granted?
[20:35] <leokolb> yes
[20:36] <tsimonq2> Remember in my endorsement when I said Leó often brings items up to the attention of myself and other Lubuntu Developers that are incredibly important? Well, to my recollection he's done that *twice* since I endorsed him not long ago. The UMB should absolutely make leokolb a member. As part of the team who originally granted him Lubuntu Membership, he really does deserve Ubuntu Membership, full
[20:36] <tsimonq2> stop.
[20:36] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Do you have anything to add on this front specifically? ^
[20:36]  * guiverc whispers Leo has also done some beyond just our Lubuntu project/team
[20:36] <arraybolt3> I think I'll let the QA tracker be its own testimonial. https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/testers
[20:37] <lucyllewy> thank you tsimonq2 <3 that's a powerful extra statement :-)
[20:37] <tsimonq2> My endorsement here does not override my existing endorsement, it simply compliments it. :)
[20:37] <arraybolt3> He holds the Jammy Daily testing record and beats #2 by over 1000 tests, he currently holds the Noble testing record, and he also holds the all-time testing record. No one tests our ISOs as much as he does, quite literally.
[20:37] <lucyllewy> wowoweewah!
[20:38] <lucyllewy> that's testy testing!
[20:38] <aaronprisk> Leok has been a prolific tester and his efforts have helped ensure that our releases are stable and trusted by the millions of users around the world. We need more Leok’s in this community :)
[20:38] <mapreri> This is a case where the endorsements were really a deal breaker for me, as just looking at launchpad and discourse page (no wiki homepage?) really wasn't clear what you are doing
[20:38] <tsimonq2> I remember back as a young whipper snapper when I was near (or at) #1 on that list. It takes a looooooooooot of hard work. A lot of people don't realize it.
[20:38] <tsimonq2> aaronprisk: Strong +1.
[20:38] <mapreri> with those endorsement, I really have nothing more to say ^^
[20:38] <lucyllewy> any questions, Bashing-om ?
[20:39] <lucyllewy> I'm pretty happy with everything I can see that I have no questions myself
[20:39] <lucyllewy> again. good testimonials are key.
[20:39] <Bashing-om> no questions ^ speaks Broadly :)
[20:39] <Eickmeyer> With my lead hat for Ubuntu Studio and my proxy for Edubuntu hats on, I agree with everything tsimonq2, aaronprisk, arraybolt3, and guiverc have said.
[20:39] <lucyllewy> wonderful. I guess we can get to the voting then
[20:40]  * mapreri thinks we need to standardize on testimonials/endorsements/advocacies/…?
[20:40] <lucyllewy> we're powering through here!
[20:40] <lucyllewy> agreed. I really need to see testimonials.
[20:40] <mIk3_08> good testimonials are key and the biased thing. :-D
[20:40] <tsimonq2> mapreri: Why should you? It's not RFC-2119 ;)
[20:40] <tsimonq2> *shrug*
[20:41] <lucyllewy> #vote Leó's application for Membership
[20:41] <meetingology> Please vote on: Leó's application for Membership
[20:41] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
[20:41] <lucyllewy> do the thing
[20:41] <mapreri> tsimonq2: whoever came up with 2119 was a damn genius
[20:41] <mapreri> +1
[20:41] <meetingology> +1 received from mapreri
[20:41] <lucyllewy> again Kilos is +1 here
[20:41] <Bashing-om> +1
[20:41] <meetingology> +1 received from Bashing-om
[20:42] <lucyllewy> +1 super super california fraggle-rock lipstick expedia docsis
[20:42] <meetingology> +1 super super california fraggle-rock lipstick expedia docsis received from lucyllewy
[20:42] <lucyllewy> that second super was supposed to be duper.
[20:42] <lucyllewy> #endvote
[20:42] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Leó's application for Membership
[20:42] <meetingology> Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
[20:42] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:42] <arraybolt3> Well that one was both messy and a lot of fun :)
[20:42] <lucyllewy> one more
[20:43] <tsimonq2> Welcome back to the cool kids club!!!! 🎉🎉🎉
[20:43] <leokolb> Thank you all so much! And thanks to all for the kind words!! PROUD!
[20:43] <ilvipero> Congratulations Leok, and thank you for your amazing work. You make Ubuntu better!
[20:43] <lucyllewy> #topic Michael Mendoza Quisido lll
[20:43] <Eickmeyer> 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
[20:43] <tsimonq2> leokolb: You really should be, keep up your amazing work. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
[20:43] <mIk3_08> lucyllewy yes?
[20:43] <arraybolt3> leokolb: You've done so much, I would be mad if you had gotten turned down just now. :)
[20:43] <lucyllewy> mIk3_08: can you introduce yourself and share the links to your application and LP profile
[20:44] <mIk3_08> Hi I am Michael Quisido
[20:44] <mIk3_08> And I am applying for Ubuntu Membership
[20:44] <mIk3_08> I dont have any testi here.
[20:44] <mIk3_08> Just a plain applicant.
[20:44] <mIk3_08> Does my loyalty is not a credit to you guys?
[20:44] <lucyllewy> For the record, mIk3_08 's links are https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/michael-quisido-iii-membership-application/40834 and https://launchpad.net/~mike-quisido
[20:45] <lucyllewy> while the board reviews your links I will ask the first question:
[20:45] <lucyllewy> You have signed the Code of Conduct. Do you affirm that you have read and understood the whole document, and do you agree to be bound by the terms for the duration of your membership should it be grante
[20:47] <mapreri> he also has a wiki page, fwiw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mike-quisido
[20:47] <lucyllewy> thank you, mapreri
[20:47] <mIk3_08> Thanks @mapreri
[20:49] <lucyllewy> mIk3_08: did you see my question above?
[20:49] <mIk3_08> @lucyllewy yes
[20:50] <lucyllewy> can you clarify that you are stating that you have read and understood the terms of the code of conduct? with a simple yes there it could be read that you are saying yes you saw the question, not that you are answering yes to the question itself.
[20:50] <mapreri> Personally, I don't think I see enough _sustained_ contributions, and coupled with the lack of testimonials this makes my approval quite hard to get.
[20:52] <mIk3_08> testimonials are key and the biased thing. @mapreri
[20:53] <arraybolt3> Testimonials means that you've done things that directly improved the Ubuntu operating system for all users and people saw it. It's hard to verify that you've done something if people can't see it. That's why they're important.
[20:53] <arraybolt3> (me vanishes since this is just my opinion, I'm not on the UMB)
[20:53] <mIk3_08> @ lucyllewy, Yes. I have understand and signed the code of conduct
[20:54] <lucyllewy> cool. thank you.
[20:54] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: The testimonials serve to prove you are not blowing smoke and that you have the approval of peers.
[20:54] <aaronprisk> mIk3_08 has been working to revive the Ubuntu Philippines LoCo. I look forward to seeing the great work that comes out of that effort. :)
[20:55] <mIk3_08> I will try my best @aaronprisk
[20:55] <lucyllewy> mIk3_08: I see you have mentioned two websites in your application. One of them doesn't have anything hosted on it, and the other is a redirect to Ubuntu.com. Can you clarify the contributions you have provided with these two domains as they form the bulk of your listed contributions in your application post under the heading "My Contributions"?
[20:56] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: We can see tht you were active in 2018 - I see little else since . You have joined a lot of teams - what contributions have you made to the various teams ?
[20:56] <mIk3_08> To gather people in philippines @aaronprisk
[20:56] <lucyllewy> thanks, aaronprisk . Have you interacted with mIk3_08 before?
[20:57] <aaronprisk> A few times, mostly around the effort to revive that local community team. I appreciate his willingness and enthusiasm to take that effort on.
[20:57] <lucyllewy> cool. thank you.
[20:57] <mIk3_08> @Bashing-om That was before. I try not to renew but It automatically newed itself.
[20:58] <mIk3_08> i mean renewed
[20:58] <lucyllewy> we're nearing the hour mark on the meeting which is normally the cut-off. I can keep going if everyone is ok to do so
[20:58] <mIk3_08> Thanks for the trust @aaronprisk
[20:59] <mIk3_08> No.. just now. @lucyllewy
[20:59] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: We look for "sustained contributions" as one determining factor in awarding membership. Please show us what you have done recently in sustainability !
[20:59] <lucyllewy> mIk3_08: I'm not sure what you mean in response to Bashing-om 's question that "that was before". Can you say more about that?
[21:00] <mapreri> I'm fine staying longer…
[21:00] <lucyllewy> we're specifically looking for sustained and significant contributions, and we like to see activity in the past 6 months.
[21:01] <mIk3_08> In launchpad.. @lucyllewy... Bashing-om is referring to my group in launchpad... I try not to renew those groups but it automatically renewed itself.
[21:03] <mIk3_08> @lucyllewy as of now I hold the ubuntu.com.ph to gather people here in Philippines. Its not easy to work alone.
[21:04] <mIk3_08> What you think? @lucyllewy
[21:04] <mIk3_08> Thanks @mapreri
[21:05] <mapreri> mIk3_08: meaning you are "alone" for now in -ph in this effort? :(
[21:05] <lucyllewy> mIk3_08: do you have any other contributions in the past 6 months that we can see beyond the ubuntu.com.ph domain name ownership?
[21:05] <mIk3_08> Yes! I am @mapreri
[21:06] <mIk3_08> @ I am active in https://ubuntuforums.org/ since from the start
[21:06] <mIk3_08> Bashing-om knows that.
[21:07] <mIk3_08> @lucyllewy I am active in https://ubuntuforums.org/ since from the start
[21:07] <mapreri> please link your ubuntuforumes profile in your wiki/lp/application if it is relevant for us…
[21:07] <mIk3_08> @mapreri sec...
[21:08] <mapreri> https://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=2079368 ?
[21:08] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: I can attest that you are active on the Forums - however more as supportive than making a contribution to resolve problems.
[21:08] <mIk3_08>  https://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=2079368
[21:08] <mapreri> either way, I think I'm ready to vote myself.
[21:09] <mIk3_08> @mapreri ubuntu.com.ph/Ubuntu/Philippines/mike-quisido
[21:09] <mIk3_08> I have some profile there.
[21:13] <lucyllewy> ok. I think I'm ready to vote. any objections to moving to vote?
[21:14] <Bashing-om> vote
[21:14] <lucyllewy> #vote Michael's application for Membership
[21:14] <meetingology> Please vote on: Michael's application for Membership
[21:14] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
[21:14] <lucyllewy> do the thing
[21:14] <Bashing-om> -1 what ifs, maybes and good wishes are not contributions.
[21:14] <meetingology> -1 what ifs, maybes and good wishes are not contributions. received from Bashing-om
[21:15] <lucyllewy> -1 I'm afraid I don't yet see enough recent contributions that show a signification and sustained activity.
[21:15] <meetingology> -1 I'm afraid I don't yet see enough recent contributions that show a signification and sustained activity. received from lucyllewy
[21:15] <mapreri> -1 - not enough significant and sustained contributions to the community; though now I found many posts in the forums, no time to look at them but otoh Bashing-om says they are not so much.
[21:15] <meetingology> -1 - not enough significant and sustained contributions to the community; though now I found many posts in the forums, no time to look at them but otoh Bashing-om says they are not so much. received from mapreri
[21:15] <lucyllewy> I believe Kilos is also -1
[21:15] <mapreri> mhh
[21:15] <lucyllewy> #endvote
[21:15] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Michael's application for Membership
[21:15] <meetingology> Votes for: 0, Votes against: 3, Abstentions: 0
[21:15] <meetingology> Motion denied
[21:15] <mapreri> I don't think Kilos actually voted on that
[21:15] <mapreri> anyway…
[21:16] <mapreri> he did say to recommend you to get endorsements, however :)
[21:16] <lucyllewy> I'm sorry you didn't make it this time, mIk3_08 . Please don't be dissuaded, but do consider coming back again if you can show more significant, sustained, and recent contributions. Even better if you can get a testimonial or several as they really help us in our decision making.
[21:18] <mIk3_08> @ mapreri :-D
[21:20] <lucyllewy> thank you everyone for attending.
[21:20] <lucyllewy> Congratulations to all the new members. Don't forget to check the perks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks and once you've been added to the members group remember to apply for your certificate at https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ (1/2)
[21:20] <lucyllewy> Your @ubuntu.com email address will go live within 48 hours. Do NOT set it as your primary launchpad.net email address because that will cause emails to loop forever and you'll never receive them! (2/2)
[21:20] <tsimonq2> Everyone should subscribe to LWN. ;)
[21:20] <lucyllewy> with that I'll end the meeting
[21:20] <lucyllewy> #endmeeting
[21:20] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 21:20:28 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-12-07-20.06.moin.txt
[21:21] <ilvipero> Thank you all again!
[21:21]  * Eickmeyer applied for his certificate in 2018... never got it.
[21:21] <tsimonq2> lucyllewy: Where is the best place to follow up for existing Ubuntu Members if we have not received our certificates?
[21:22] <aaronprisk> Thank you membership team! :)
[21:23] <mapreri> Eickmeyer, tsimonq2: nag aaronprisk I'd say :P
[21:24] <tsimonq2> aaronprisk, ilvipero: oh is that a Community Team thing? :P
[21:24] <mapreri> going afk, take care people! o/
[21:24] <tsimonq2> o/ mapreri
[21:24] <Eickmeyer> see ya mapreri ! o/
[21:24] <lucyllewy> tsimonq2: yeah, either ilvipero or aaronprisk :P
[21:24] <lucyllewy> I'm sure they'll make sure they receive their own :P
[21:24]  * Eickmeyer nag nag nag nag ilvipero aaronprisk 
[21:24] <tsimonq2> They're probably busy celebrating, heh.
[21:25] <ilvipero> No, we are not busy celebrating, we are just nagging Philipp :)
[21:25] <ilvipero> lol just joking, but hmm sounds like a plan
[21:25]  * Eickmeyer nag nag nag nag Fallen
[21:26] <aaronprisk> Philipp has mentioned it's on his TODO list. I'll be sure to add an extra *bump* on that ticket ;)
[21:27] <tsimonq2> Be sure to give him a good ol' Midwestern "tell your folks I says hi" for me. :P
[21:28] <Eickmeyer> And a standard Pacific Northwestern "Hey" from me.
[21:28] <aaronprisk> @tsimonq2 oop there buddy. I can do that for ya.
[21:38] <mIk3_08> @lucyllewy Haven't Recieve yet??? I'll make you one... com.ph.. do you want?
[21:38] <mIk3_08> @tsimonq2