| JanC | lotuspsychje: there is no "hexchat indicator" (except the one that integrated in Unity's messaging indicator, which is useless for most people now); that is an old-fashioned tray icon there, and maybe that's related to the issue...? | 07:10 |
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| lotuspsychje | JanC: you mean the hexchat indicator on gnome is outdated and not adapted to gnome properly? | 11:52 |
| JanC | well, Gnome itself doesn't support either IIRC, and the extension supports both app indicators & tray icons? | 12:00 |
| JanC | but if you only see that bug with HexChat, it might be related to how it uses tray icons (while most applications use an app indicator library nowadays, I think) | 12:01 |
| JanC | s/extension/shell extension/ | 12:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i see | 12:02 |
| JanC | might be possible to test that if you find another application that still uses tray icons :) | 12:03 |
| lotuspsychje | JanC: daniel vvugt seems to suspect bug #2012388 | 12:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2012388 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "X11 window (usually AnyDesk) at top-right of the screen is invisible and steals mouse clicks" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2012388 | 12:03 | |
| lotuspsychje | JanC: i got qbittorrent indicator too, wich doesnt have that issue | 12:04 |
| lotuspsychje | its just the hexchat one inflating | 12:05 |
| lotuspsychje | i did not test anydesk neither | 12:07 |
| JanC | so apparently you can disable "Legacy Tray icons support" (but that's probably not what most people want...) | 12:07 |
| JanC | I mean, you could just disable the HexChat tray icon in HexChat too then | 12:08 |
| JanC | I wonder if the same issue shows up on X11 | 12:09 |
| lotuspsychje | i disabled it, lemme logout/in | 12:09 |
| lotuspsychje | yep that fixes it | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | now lets try re enable and try on xorg | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah xorg has it too | 12:13 |
| JanC | so then it's not because the tray icon needs XWayland :) | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed, but if it happens with anydesk, it means prob related to the indicator mechanism | 12:14 |
| JanC | the AnyDesk issue might be different | 12:15 |
| JanC | or it might be related | 12:15 |
| JanC | hard to say :) | 12:15 |
| lotuspsychje | we will let the devs fight it out :p | 12:15 |
| lotuspsychje | did you see the new yelp version on noble JanC | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | it added a category to the gnome devs matrix channel | 12:16 |
| JanC | ugh | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme screen | 12:17 |
| lotuspsychje | JanC: https://imgur.com/a/3KcLN7Y | 12:17 |
| lotuspsychje | lets hope they add an ubuntu matrix too, unless the gnome devs want users to reach to gnome more in the future? | 12:20 |
| JanC | the biggest problem is promoting bloatware like matrix/Element :) | 12:21 |
| lotuspsychje | well matrix does have a lot of users, it could get us back proper ubuntu support | 12:21 |
| lotuspsychje | arch and kde community also use matrix combined with irc here | 12:22 |
| lotuspsychje | https://community.kde.org/Matrix | 12:23 |
| lotuspsychje | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Matrix | 12:23 |
| lotuspsychje | so i assume gnome wants to join the club? | 12:23 |
| JanC | many Gnome channels have been bridged to Matrix for quite a while now, but that is often broken (for everyone who tries to do it) because of Matrix bridge bugs | 12:24 |
| lotuspsychje | there's a bridge being tested atm working pretty stable | 12:25 |
| lotuspsychje | #ubuntu-matrix | 12:25 |
| JanC | but does it work correctly? | 12:25 |
| lotuspsychje | depends what you define by working | 12:26 |
| JanC | as in respecting IRC :) | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje | join and see, there's support going on at some times | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje | you might be affected to bug #2044167 too JanC (if using dutch ubuntu-desktop) | 12:33 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2044167 in language-pack-gnome-nl (Ubuntu) "livepatch strings not fully translated to dutch in noble" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2044167 | 12:33 | |
| lotuspsychje | still happens on jammy too | 12:34 |
| JanC | well, my main desktop is in English, but it would affect other people's systems that I support (e.g. my dad) | 12:34 |
| lotuspsychje | ah ok | 12:35 |
| JanC | OTOH, he probably doesn't see anything related to livepatch | 12:35 |
| JanC | also, Noble isn't anywhere near release, so missing translations are to be expected | 12:37 |
| lotuspsychje | its the same on jammy, so surely a missed string | 12:37 |
| lotuspsychje | its a bit odd when you get a mixed language window | 12:38 |
| JanC | is it even available for translation? and who would have to translate it? Canonical? (this is commercial after all) | 12:38 |
| lotuspsychje | the dutch translate team prob | 12:39 |
| lotuspsychje | brb | 12:40 |
| JanC | I'm not sure they translate stuff that is on the commercial/Canonical side? | 12:40 |
| lotuspsychje | JanC: its the livepatch text, after update-manager gui is done with updates | 13:04 |
| lotuspsychje | https://i.stack.imgur.com/Qc33m.png | 13:07 |
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