[00:08] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> vorlon, that's who you are to disagree with them :P
[00:09] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> (What the heck is the difference again?)
[00:11] <arraybolt3> hah
[00:11] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I thought they were the same thing, it is just what you label it. 🤷‍♂️
[00:11] <arraybolt3> well I'll look at it and see
[00:11] <arraybolt3> I still think calling it Expat when the devs call it MIT is a bad idea though, just for the record.
[00:11] <arraybolt3> We paste the full license text in for a reason.
[00:12] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I agree with you
[00:14] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> https://ghinda.com/blog/opensource/2020/open-source-licenses-apache-mit-bsd.html#possible-risks-from-difference-versions
[00:18] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Debian puts Expat in parenthesis maybe that makes it better. https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/mit
[00:20] <arraybolt3> kk, I'll tweak it for the final upload
[00:24] <arraybolt3> kc2bez: https://launchpad.net/~arraybolt3/+archive/ubuntu/picom-conf/+packages
[00:28] <arraybolt3> Verified that the license is indeed MIT (Expat) and specified it as such (not in the PPA though).
[00:39] <arraybolt3> Uploading a second PPA source package with the fixed copyright file.
[00:39] <arraybolt3> I think that's all I need to now request review and sponsorship.
[00:40] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> It seems to test out. I can adjust things just like I did with compton-conf before.
[00:41] <arraybolt3> very nice
[00:56] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I gave this a spin too. It seems to work as expected for me. It is a pretty basic test though. I only had one monitor. It passes the smoke test anyway. (re @RikMills: in ppa here: https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/sddm-merge/+packages)
[01:31] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: See the discussion I just had with vorlon in #ubuntu-devel.
[01:32] <arraybolt3> +1, I specified it as MIT (Expat) to make everyone happy
[01:33] <tsimonq2> But will vorlon be happy with that do you think :P
[01:34] <arraybolt3> Yes. He wants Expat, he gets Expat. Upstream wants MIT, they get MIT. Debian calls it MIT (Expat). Should work, I think.
[01:38] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2023-December/002400.html
[01:39] <tsimonq2> Subject: NEW packages to add to `lubuntu` packageset: qtilitools, sddm-conf, redshift-qt
[01:39] <arraybolt3> Nice!
[01:39] <tsimonq2> You know, for Dan and Walter. ;P
[02:04] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> XD
[02:31] <guiverc> as expected; getting try/install on both screens (full screen & same resolution; lower res screen setting resolution)....   If I select English(Aussie) the app restarts & asks again being set to English(US)
[02:34] <guiverc> If I start install; the other screen still shows language selection, and I change language + CONFIRM it appears to KILL calamares (which maybe destructive if formatting, resizing etc!!
[02:34] <tsimonq2> guiverc: While the reloaded session does say English (United States) to start, that does *not* actually reflect the currently-chosen language :)
[02:35] <tsimonq2> That's a really good point!
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Two good bugs ;)
[02:35] <tsimonq2> (The bugs themselves aren't good, the points are :P)
[02:36] <guiverc> do you want me to filing something on lp (install running currently in another room)
[02:36] <tsimonq2> At your convenience; would be good to track. Feel free to directly assign to me (you have my explicit permission :) )
[02:36] <guiverc> ack & :)
[02:53] <guiverc> what is the correct package tsimonq2   is it lubuntu-installer-prompt ??
[03:13] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Yes for both :) (not sure if you're doing two bugs or combining into one, either is fine)
[03:27] <guiverc> i've done two bugs 2046099 & 2046100 but no description yet on them
[03:27] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Bug 2046099 in lubuntu-installer-prompt (Ubuntu) "lubuntu calamares - noble issue 1  (lubuntu-installer-prompt)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046099
[03:27] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Bug 2046100 in lubuntu-installer-prompt (Ubuntu) "lubuntu calamares - noble issue 2  (lubuntu-installer-prompt)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046100
[03:42]  * guiverc hopes bug reports now make [some] sense
[04:13] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Followed up on both, don't forget to subscribe lubuntu-packaging :) thanks for your help!
[05:11]  * arraybolt3 ships Eickmeyer a barrel of coffee
[05:12] <arraybolt3> "stealth grilling" me over bug severity is awesome, I had zero clue that was a test and not an actual disagreement
[05:24] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: XD
[05:24] <arraybolt3> also thanks for the extra info on the signond bug report, I think the crash course you, Simon, and the rest of the devs gave me has really helped me learn a lot more about what I'm doing.
[05:25] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: You showed excellent judgement, and for that I applaud you.
[05:25] <arraybolt3> I might ask for peer review even after gaining MOTU just so make sure I don't blow anything up :)
=== arraybolt3 is now known as arraybolt3_tl
[15:55] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3_tl: peer review> That's the way it should be. :)
[15:55] <arraybolt3_tl> Maybe I can talk you into co-patch-piloting with me the first couple of flights :D
[15:56] <tsimonq2> That works for me! Once you have MOTU, follow up with me and we'll schedule one or two hour long flights just to get you started. :)
[15:56] <arraybolt3_tl> man, nervousness is growing, got about 4 minutes and counting... (and one DMB member doesn't seem thrilled about doing the grilling right now so we're not sure if it'll happen at all today)
[15:57] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3_tl: Out of anyone who has ever applied for MOTU, *you* have no reason to be nervous :D
[15:57] <arraybolt3_tl> lol
[15:57] <tsimonq2> And I mean that. :P
[15:57] <arraybolt3_tl> Thanks :)
[16:06] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Good luck! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3_tl> man, nervousness is growing, got about 4 minutes and counting... (and one DMB member doesn't seem thrilled about doing the grilling right now so we're not sure if it'll happen at all today))
=== arraybolt3_tl is now known as arraybolt3
[16:25] <tsimonq2> Just an FYI, QA testers: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/0.20.0-2ubuntu1
[16:37]  * tsimonq2 lunch - mostly $dayjob focus this week
[17:02] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> thanks! (re @kc2bez: I gave this a spin too. It seems to work as expected for me. It is a pretty basic test though. I only had one monitor. It passes the smoke test anyway.)
[18:06] <lubot> [telegram] <Rodrigo> Hi, just wanted to report that there seems to be a superposition of items on the website (menu + title). Here I selected the menu : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/bd022ac2/file_10218.jpg
[18:06] <lubot> [telegram] <Rodrigo> I'm using Google Chrome
[18:06] <lubot> [telegram] <Rodrigo> It looks fine in Firefox though
[18:07] <lubot> [telegram] <Rodrigo> not really (re @Rodrigo: It looks fine in Firefox though)
[18:07] <lubot> [telegram] <Rodrigo> It's a question of the windo size. If it is narrow enough, the meny and title get in the same space
[18:07] <arraybolt3> Oh fun.
[18:08] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> css issues
[18:08] <arraybolt3> I guess that's another reason to rewrite the website :P (we already have a growing stack of reasons why we want to rebuild the whole site from scratch)
[18:08] <arraybolt3> I am able to reproduce the issue over here.
[18:13] <tsimonq2> I'm doing many things today, digging into Wordpress CSS is *NOT* one of them, I'm sorry. :P
[18:13] <Eickmeyer> #SimonsFault :P j/k
[18:13] <tsimonq2> Hey this one is Raf's fault. XD
[20:13] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> this is why i hate non-mobile-optimized sites. (re @Rodrigo: It's a question of the window size. If it is narrow enough, the menu and title get in the same space)
[20:14] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> the theme in use on lubuntu.me base website isn't mobile-optimized (i.e. when WindowDimensions < CertainThreshold, it squishes everything into a sandwich menu, etc.
[20:34] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> mmm... hamburgers...
[20:34] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> 🍔