[00:03] <miccs> hey, i have a problem with ubuntu 23.10 - it swaps like crazy even that half of my ram is still free - i have minimal swappiness set = 1 (it was working in prior ubuntu releases correctly) - but in 23.10 it doesnt - something changed that doesnt respect this value?
[02:33] <charles> can't upgrade to 23.10.  When I try to, it objects saying "https://packagecloud.io/ookla/speedtest-cli/ubuntuz
[02:33] <charles> " doesn't have something or other.
[02:34] <toddc> lts will only upgrade to lts unless you change options
[02:34] <charles> options on the installer, or options on 3rd party softwares already installed on the machine?
[02:35] <toddc> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/upgrade-introduction
[02:36] <charles> thanks I'll read it
[02:37] <toddc> the desktop also has a gui software and updates change longterm to for any new version
[02:37] <leftyfb> charles: in order to upgrade, you need to remove all 3rd party repositories. Sometimes the packages as well
[02:38] <toddc> do all updates brfore starting any version upgrade
[02:38] <leftyfb> step #1 : remove all 3rd party repositories
[02:52] <charles> thank you
[02:54] <ravage> step #1 : backup :)
[03:34] <Your_Dog> anybody having problems with latest pycharm on snap?
[03:36] <JanC> what sort of problems?
[03:38] <Your_Dog> critical error
[03:38] <JanC> are these official snaps from PyCharm upstream?
[03:38] <Your_Dog> Seems like its having problems looking at the plugins I have previously installed
[03:38] <Your_Dog> Yes
[03:38] <Your_Dog> imma try reinstalling
[03:39] <ag> hello
[03:39] <JanC> maybe try re-installing or updating the plugins also? (or start without them)
[03:40] <JanC> maybe the plugins are not compatible with the newer version (yet?)?
[03:40] <Your_Dog> just reinstalled, didnt work seems like the settings persists somewhere outside of the snap package
[03:40] <JanC> ugh
[03:41] <Your_Dog> i know, its fun lmao (no not really)
[03:41] <JanC> maybe under ~/.config or ~/.local ?
[03:41] <Your_Dog> https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/uninstall.html#standalone
[03:41] <Your_Dog> yeah
[03:41] <Your_Dog> .config, .local and .cache says here
[03:42] <JanC> I'd first try deleting anything related under ~/.cache then
[03:43] <JanC> then the others
[03:44] <Your_Dog> ok now it works
[03:44] <JanC> well, that's good news  :)
[03:45] <Your_Dog> normally jetbrains updates the plugins along with the client update, what probably happened here is that the client update ahead of the plugins and caused that, lol
[03:45] <JanC> because they happen out-of-band
[03:45] <Your_Dog> yep
[03:45] <JanC> using separate update mechanisms
[03:45] <Your_Dog> oh
[03:46] <Your_Dog> im stupid, i forgot u can also revert the snap to a prev revision
[03:46] <Your_Dog> smh
[03:46] <Your_Dog> oh well
[03:46] <Your_Dog> its just a theme and codeglancepro i have installed so no biggie
[03:46] <Your_Dog> lol
[03:46] <JanC> well, that is probably not so useful if you want the new version
[03:47] <Your_Dog> hmmh true
[03:52] <GBGames> I recently started experience a problem with my laptop, and I wonder if it is tied to a recent update? First, when I use OBS, the color for the camera seems tinted yellow. Second, now my bluetooth keyboard shows connected in Bluetooth Devices, but the keyboard doesn't seem to be actually working.
[03:52] <GBGames> I know the keyboard has worked on a different laptop just fine, and it has worked on this laptop fine before today.
[03:53] <GBGames> Oh, I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
[04:04] <GBGames> https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6540-1 Well, I wonder if this fix broke my functionality? "It was discovered that BlueZ did not properly restrict non-bonded devices
[04:04] <GBGames> from injecting HID events into the input subsystem. "
[04:05] <JanC> eh, I would certainly assume that only properly bonded devices would be able to work?
[04:09] <spicecode> hi
[04:10] <GBGames> I guess I don't know what would make my keyboard bonded or not. It's a Logitech K380, and usually I press and hold one of the three buttons to let me connect to one of three devices. Then on my laptop in Bluetooth Manager, I right click on the keyboard entry and click Connect.
[04:11] <GBGames> And in the past, that was all I needed to do, but now it looks connected as far as my laptop is concerned but it seems to be ignoring any keypresses as if it isn't connected.
[04:14] <GBGames> I can confirm that other Bluetooth devices work, such as my headset.
[05:20] <dragonflame1010> hello everyone
[05:23] <matsaman> hi dragon
[05:29] <Guest287> Laptop
[05:36] <dragonflame1010> yoo
[05:36] <Guest195> hello
[05:37] <sai> hi
[06:08] <k4k0> Good evening to all friends present.
[06:08] <k4k0> I would like to know if I could clarify any doubts with you about why my nginx server is not reading .php files if I have already installed php on the server. (if you can address this subject here)
[06:10] <rbox> because you didn't follow instructions for configuring nginx to use php
[06:12] <k4k0> I did this according to a digitalocean tutorial
[06:31] <nshirelaptop> I can't seem to kill unattended-upgr
[06:32] <nshirelaptop> systemctl stop unattended-upgrades never terminated, still on blinking cursor
[08:02] <Yakov> how to install steam game for windows on ubuntu with wine?
[08:02] <Yakov> $ wine steam: 0024:err:module:process_init L"C:\\windows\\system32\\steam.exe" not found
[08:03] <CosmicDJ> Yakov: try proton first https://ubuntu.com/blog/linux-gaming-with-ubuntu-desktop-steam-and-proton
[08:03] <Yakov> what is it?
[08:04] <CosmicDJ> Yakov: it's basically wine but nicely integrated into steam
[08:33] <fling> which 6.1 kernel tree has shiftfs?
[08:33] <fling> I want to cherry pick the patches
[08:33] <fling> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-test/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/mainline-crack
[08:33] <fling> not this one ^
[08:34] <fling> I don't even see shiftfs removal in git log in cod/mainline/v6.1.66
[08:34] <fling> halp :D
[10:49] <younder> My system went straight to hell after the last reboot. Won't boot normally. I have get the boot menu then select secure boot. After installing Ubuntu stock nvidia pacages I get it to boot form secure mode. I still can  not turn on the screen saver or it ignores keyboard output. Fuck!
[10:50] <younder> Still it boots after continue from the secure menu. And here I am.
[10:51] <younder> WTF happened here?
[10:52] <younder> Pardon the language.
[10:56] <Yakov> how to connect to libera chat? https://ibb.co/Jc1skTV
[10:56] <younder> When booting from secure mode the output is normal and in 3440x1440 resolution. Not Noveaux
[10:57] <younder> Yasov: welcome to libera chat
[10:58] <Yakov> I use qiwi client, but I want to connect with app
[10:59] <younder> Why when you can connect from EMACS with a simple irc'  command
[11:00] <younder> Irc is a old clunky protocol invented by a fin. Not twitch or whatever the cool kids use these days.
[11:03] <younder> Libera is like freebee central. The default in emacs
[11:05] <Yakov> because I need to store history
[11:05] <Yakov> irc is masterpiece
[11:06] <younder> Linux was also initiated by a fin..
[11:08] <younder> It is usually the channel provider that logs. At any rate the buffer is a kind of log. What is your need exactly?
[11:09] <Yakov> Linux or Unix?
[11:11] <younder> linux
[11:13] <younder> Linus started a garage project that grew way over his head. But luckily he grew with it.
[11:15] <younder> What do you need when things grow over you head you say. More heads obviously. And a drum to keep them marching as one. That drum thing is the big surprise here
[11:16] <younder> He kept the community together
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[12:20] <jailbreak> Hi all
[13:37] <lorainelink> heyyy
[14:01] <skdj> ubuntu 23.10 ns3 in repos does what?
[14:01] <Habbie> Description: discrete-event network simulator for Internet systems
[14:02] <leftyfb> skdj: apt-cache show ns3
[14:02] <leftyfb> skdj: https://www.nsnam.org/   # first result on google for "ns3"
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:16] <skdj> I don't understand what apt-get install ns3 does doesn't appear to install anything.  better off downloading the tarbell from their website and building manually.  wouldn't it be identified as a placeholder package if it was?
[14:19] <skdj> installs only the libraries?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> skdj: if you want the volunteers to help you, you could !paste what you're doing exactly so they can help think along
[14:20] <leftyfb> skdj: not knowing anything about ns3 and not reading any of the documentation for it, I can count 6 ns3* binaries in my path after installing ns3
[14:20] <ravage> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/amd64/ns3/filelist
[14:21] <leftyfb> skdj: what exactly are you expecting to happen when you install ns3?
[14:21] <Habbie> however, https://packages.ubuntu.com/mantic/amd64/ns3/filelist
[14:21] <leftyfb> skdj: from https://www.nsnam.org/docs/release/3.40/tutorial/html/quick-start.html#brief-summary  : "ns-3 is a discrete-event simulator typically run from the command line. It is written directly in C++, not in a high-level modeling language; simulation events are simply C++ function calls, organized by a scheduler."
[14:22] <Habbie> 'bench-packets' is not in any other mantic package either
[14:22] <Habbie> (i also know nothing about ns3 so perhaps this has a reason)
[14:23] <leftyfb> Habbie: ns3.35-bench-packets is installed with ns3 on jammy
[14:23] <Habbie> on jammy, yes, but not on mantic
[14:23] <Habbie> and skdj asked about mantic
[14:26] <leftyfb> it looks like these get installed on mantic: # ls /usr/libexec/ns3/
[14:26] <leftyfb> ns3.39-raw-sock-creator  ns3.39-tap-creator  ns3.39-tap-device-creator
[14:26] <Habbie> indeed
[15:24] <mzoku> usb drive randomly getting mounted while left in the usb slot, what could be?
[15:25] <mzoku> I am just getting the notification "your drive is ready"
[15:25] <zaggynl> check kernel messages but sounds like a malfunctioning drive
[15:26] <mzoku> I hope its not, and its fairly new. How check and grep messages in the kernal for the usb drive?
[15:33] <zaggynl> mzoku: sudo dmesg -wH
[15:33] <Teridon> Ubuntu 20.04 system with the similar issue as described here:  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/724678/why-does-grub-fail-to-auto-boot-when-no-keyboard-is-connected .  What I'm actually seeing is that the menu entry _changes_ automatically (with no keyboard connected)  https://youtu.be/puONGGmeLDo
[15:34] <mzoku> zaggynl, I see few times "Buffer I/O error on dev dm-0, logical block 7372800, lost sync page write"
[15:35] <mzoku> Teridon, thanks, ill check
[15:39] <Teridon> mzoku: my message didn't have anything to do with your problem
[15:39] <Teridon> I'm asking for help for my own problems ;)
[15:40] <mzoku> good luck then :)
[15:48] <zaggynl> mzoku: is it a flash drive or a spinning hdd?
[15:48] <mzoku> its a flash drive 3.0
[15:56] <lubuntu_newbie_9> hello I need some help on lubuntu, is this the correct chat?
[15:57] <WaV> lubuntu_newbie_9: yes. There is also a channel specifically for lubuntu I believe, but your question can also be asked here if you'd like.
[15:57] <fweht> when i do "save as" in firefox, why dont i have the same folders as in a files window, including recent or starred?  it only shows me the bookmarked folders but nothing else :(
[16:01] <lubuntu_newbie_9> thank you. I installed LU 22.04, under a username without a password. then I installed a vnc server. then I realized I wanted an X?? instaed of VNC, so I tried to uninstall it. Now on reboot, I get this weird screen, blue bkgrnd with lubunut logo and face icon with username and text box to enter password and a virtual keyboard pops up. but I can't seem to get past this login since username has no pwd. I am using a live cdrom
[16:01] <lubuntu_newbie_9> right now to chat. can anyone suggest keywords that I can use to google how to fix this. I don't know what this screen is...
[16:03] <lubuntu_newbie_9> is this interface named LXQt ?
[16:03] <leftyfb> lubuntu_newbie_9: when did you install this and why/how did you go through the stock install process without setting a password? I'm pretty sure the install requires settings password.
[16:04] <arraybolt3_tl> 22.04 didn't require a password.
[16:04] <arraybolt3_tl> (Luunbut 22.04 to be specific, other versions might have required one)
[16:04] <arraybolt3_tl> *Lubuntu
[16:05] <arraybolt3_tl> wow talk about a typo
[16:05] <arraybolt3_tl> lubuntu_newbie_9: You should be able to just press Enter to log in when you're in this state, I think? If it's not working you might have uninstalled something important.
[16:06] <arraybolt3_tl> In that instance, I'd bind-mount /dev, /dev/pts, /proc, and /sys into your installed system, then chroot in and run `sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop`. I don't have time to walk you through that, but someone else here might.
[16:07] <lubuntu_newbie_9> thank you i have tried to press enter but it doesn't do anything, it is acting as if it won't accept a keypress if that pwd textbox is blank / empty...
[16:08] <lubuntu_newbie_9> thank arraybolt3, i will google those commands to learn how to do that..
[16:55] <vadique> hi everyone
[16:56] <vadique> how can I disable any effect of any pushing on the windoze logo key in ubuntu, like no numbers in dock after windoze + q and so on
[16:57] <leftyfb> vadique: huh?
[16:58] <leftyfb> oh, the "windows" key on the keyboard
[16:58] <leftyfb> vadique: you can maybe override the keyboard shortcut but that's going to disable a lot of shortcuts that use the windows(super) key
[16:59] <vadique> leftyfb, yeah that useless no one will ever need it key
[16:59] <vadique> I wonder why is it on the keyboard
[16:59] <leftyfb> vadique: that's not true at all. It's used in multiple keyboard shortcuts
[16:59] <vadique> and how to override what you said
[17:00] <leftyfb> vadique: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en   this isn't even all of them but as you can see, there are multiple shortcuts that uses the "super" key
[17:01] <leftyfb> vadique: to be clear, that key on the keyboard, while it might have a Microsoft Windows logo on it, in the Ubuntu world, it has absolutely nothing to do with Windows and is utilized in many places
[17:02] <vadique> yeah especially + L (why I tried)
[17:02] <vadique> leftyfb, how to remap the "Super key" to say Escape key or that useless one on the right showing a menu
[17:03] <leftyfb> vadique: https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-disable-super-or-win-key-in-ubuntu-20-04-or-18-04/   2nd main result on google when searching for ""ubuntu disable windows key"
[17:03] <leftyfb> vadique: none of the keys on the keyboard are "useless". But good luck disable half the useful shortcuts
[17:04] <vadique> leftyfb, but "On Additional Layout Options, select Alt/Win key behavior settings and then the “Meta is mapped to Win” option." is what I already did before joining this chat
[17:04] <vadique> I wish to change "super" to "escape" okay
[17:05] <vadique> and mapping it to meta doesn't cancel mapping it to super
[17:05] <vadique> "close the Gnome Tweaks and you will see both left and right Super or Win logo keys are disabled and will not functions anymore on your Ubuntu Linux system" is false / well, maybe it's true after rebooting or such, but i dont wanna reboot
[17:13] <vadique> xmodmap gives --> mod4        Meta_L (0x85),  Meta_R (0x86),  Meta_L (0xcd),  Super_L (0xce),  Hyper_L (0xcf)
[17:14] <garrettkajmowicz> If I am doing a test/build/package/install loop for software in a Ubuntu Debian package, what's the best command line to run which won't cause the Debian tools to delete my code changes? I've checked out the ubuntu/jammy branch of valgrind and want to make some changes to the valgrind code itself (not just the packaging). I'm running tests in a Docker container so the easiest way to move things around is as a .deb
[17:14] <garrettkajmowicz> package.
[17:15] <leftyfb> vadique: you can't remap the windows key like that
[17:16] <vadique> leftyfb, okay to "menu key"
[17:16] <vadique> or disable at all
[17:16] <leftyfb> vadique: you can't remap the windows key using xmodmap
[17:16] <leftyfb> you can only specify what program/action runs when you press it
[17:17] <leftyfb> in the keyboard shortcuts settings
[17:19] <younder> OK I am one of those idiots that redefine global key-maps so they better fit Emacs. I use Tweak Tools
[17:19] <leftyfb> younder: you can't remap the Windows key
[17:20] <leftyfb> wait, I might be thinking of the function key
[17:20] <younder> Nor should you. It is too essential.. Settle for Alt+Space and the like
[17:21] <leftyfb> yeah, but vadique doesn't see to car about functionality and just wants it gone
[17:21] <leftyfb> vadique: https://askubuntu.com/questions/137172/how-to-remap-super-left-key-to-control-key
[17:21] <vadique> xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L"
[17:21] <vadique> now it gives --> mod4        Meta_L (0x85),  Meta_R (0x86),  Meta_L (0xcd)
[17:22] <vadique> leftyfb, I found that article before you did :)
[17:22] <vadique> but after that, just touching windoze & L logs me out
[17:23] <leftyfb> don't touch super+L
[17:23] <vadique> I switched superization off
[17:24] <vadique> I just want all meta+L meta+Q meta+N meta+themall to never do anything other than just meta+something
[17:24] <leftyfb> vadique: set a shortcut for something else for super+L
[17:25] <leftyfb> why?
[17:26] <vadique> leftyfb, how to quickly disable all these shortcuts?
[17:27] <leftyfb> vadique: why do you need to disable all the shortcuts?
[17:27] <vadique> leftyfb, all related to that key at least, print for capturing the screen is okay
[17:27] <leftyfb> why?
[17:29] <vadique> leftyfb, because I'm emulating Mac OS 9 (it's 1997 yeah) in Qemu and it sends Meta as Command key to the guest (emulated) machine, and I can't use Mac OS 9 without the command (apple) key
[17:30] <vadique> thus I want to leave meta+N (new), meta+S (save), meta+Q (quit), et cetera
[17:32] <ash_worksi> if a network is unavailable and `apt install ...` attempts to fetch a package, does that mean it cannot be installed from cache?
[17:32] <younder> vadique is there any chance of persuading you to let the Windows key be?
[17:33] <leftyfb> ash_worksi: it should be able to install from the cache. Or you can just use dpkg on those cached files
[17:33] <ravage> ash_worksi: it means it is not cached
[17:34] <vadique> phew https://ibb.co/SPpwrkT
[17:35] <younder> vadique after all noone uses the space-kadet keyboard anymore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard
[17:36] <vadique> well, disabling all in "system" and "windows" was enough
[17:39] <younder> Ritchard Stallman wrote it on lisp machine in 1984 a very long time ago. The world has moved on.
[17:39] <leftyfb> younder: wrong channel?
[17:42] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: just for my information, is `dpkg -i network-manager` yeilding error "file not found" further evidence the package is not in cache?
[17:42] <ash_worksi> (even though I saw your comment, ravage :))
[17:42] <leftyfb> ash_worksi: that's because there's no cached file called "network-manager"
[17:42] <younder> apparently Emacs is also GNU
[17:46] <vadique> command+Q still doesn't work ... where it can be disabled
[17:47] <vadique> I mean, capturing it by something between me and qemu
[17:50] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: so "Yes"
[18:20] <vadique> I switchd off almost anything in navigation, but meta+Q is captured anyway
[18:21] <vadique> mmm? https://askubuntu.com/questions/977876/changing-command-super-q
[18:21] <vadique> yeah, "gsettings set org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock hot-keys false" works
[18:22] <vadique> and finally, now I can use qemu, again
[18:22] <vadique> weeeeeeeehaaaw
[19:05] <dreamcat4> hi! i am looking for the location of the alsa config file?
[19:05] <dreamcat4> can't find it (23.04(
[19:32] <eelstrebor> i'm having trouble with pairing bluetooth devices with my PC. from what i gather, it's an issue with bluetooth 5 and that an upgrade of pulseaudio should fix this or building the latest pulseaudio (which i can't seem to accomplish). how do i resolve this? Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS
[22:24] <explodes> Any suggestions on where to ask about a linux host (Ubuntu) not being detected for steam remote play?
[22:24] <explodes> Booting the same host into windows works fine
[22:33] <JanC> don't Valve have support forums or chat for Steam?
[22:34] <explodes> They do
[23:06] <explodes> Looks like Remote Play VR is NOT supported on linux. Don't know why I didn't see this ~1 hr ago when I started trying to troubleshoot :|
[23:21] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: most of the time: a well supported external (USB) bluetooth dongle
[23:35] <younder> Gilbert has a Lisp Machine running in WASM..
[23:38] <tomreyn> younder: did you hit the wrong channel? ubuntu support only here, please. thanks.
[23:50] <younder> sorry..