| lubot | [matrix] <wxl> i think i lost the context here. what's the question? | 01:07 |
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| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> I think we were asking about UX for keyboard layouts | 01:13 |
| arraybolt3 | Squish website, website gets squished | 01:13 |
| wxl | i'm not sure why i would be the person to decide on that | 01:15 |
| * arraybolt3 didn't realize this was w.r.t. a couple days ago, nvm | 01:17 | |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> I think we just trust your sage wisdom and experience. :P | 01:28 |
| tsimonq2 | ^^^^^^ | 01:28 |
| wxl | that's nice, but i have like zero experience with different keyboard layouts except i know some people use them XD | 01:28 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: I thought you used DVORAK + foot pedal XD | 01:30 |
| * tsimonq2 soft-EODs o/ | 01:34 | |
| guiverc | lubuntu's minimal install can't ubuntu-bug complete; inability to xdg-open and open (null; no-browser)... that will at least (maybe) need to be documented (come release) | 07:31 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> Can you file a bug with a text based browser? | 09:30 |
| * lubot [matrix] <arraybolt3> doubts LP will like that, but it would be cool if it worked | 09:30 | |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> That's what I was thinking. I figured it would bomb out on the authentication. | 09:31 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> Also, https://github.com/calamares/calamares/releases/tag/v3.3.0 | 09:33 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> Not alpha ^ | 09:33 |
| guiverc | you used to be able to file bugs using lynx.. not sure I've done it in a few cycles though | 09:33 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> You might be able to hack it into working? | 09:34 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Auth with FF, transfer cookie to Lynx, call it a day? | 09:34 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Not exactly a good workaround but if one could keep the cookie on a flash drive or something, might work. | 09:35 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> Well I was thinking we could ship lynx in minimal so FF wouldn't be available. | 09:36 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> What would be really cool is a reportbug-like interface to LP that was CLI/TUI based, with no browser at all. | 09:39 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Not enough time to try and make one at this point, maybe next cycle. | 09:40 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> As long as we don't resort to the Debian method of sending email directly from the box. Most ISPs block that. | 09:40 |
| guiverc | I suspect canonical (legal) will require browser for legal reasons relating to EU privacy (but just suspicion) | 09:40 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> I think the biggest thing is the OAUTH token. | 09:41 |
| RikMills | arraybolt3: there used to be python-launchpadlib-toolkit which had the lp-file-bug command | 09:42 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> I don't think LP lets you file a bug via email anyway. If it did though, all one would need is an external SMTP server, which Debian conveniently provides. | 09:42 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> perfect | 09:42 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Dead since Bionic :( | 09:43 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> or at least since before focal | 09:43 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-launchpadlib-toolkit | 09:43 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Oh wait, it's not dead? | 09:44 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> It's in Bazaar, code activity present in 2023 | 09:45 |
| RikMills | I did say used to be | 09:45 |
| RikMills | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-launchpadlib-toolkit/+bug/1854972 | 09:45 |
| -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1854972 in python-launchpadlib-toolkit (Ubuntu) "RM: python-launchpadlib-toolkit: python2-only, Ubuntu-specific, depends on removed python-launchpadlib, no other reverse-dependencies" [Undecided, Fix Released] | 09:45 | |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Looks like bdmurray may have tried to resurrect it in August, after it has been stagnant since 2013. | 09:45 |
| RikMills | ooh | 09:46 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> The last time I used that I had to authenticate using Firefox :D | 09:49 |
| arraybolt3 | Just pinged him to see what's happening there. | 09:49 |
| arraybolt3 | The commit message looked very hopeful. | 09:49 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~arsenal-devel/lpltk/2.x/revision/202 | 09:49 |
| * arraybolt3 switches chat clients on the same machine over and over for no good reason :P | 09:50 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> easy to do | 09:50 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> ;) | 09:50 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> For context I was using the lp-election-helper which uses the python libs https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/how-to-create-an-election/1387 | 09:53 |
| tsimonq2 | $ dpkg --compare-versions 3.3.0-0ubuntu1 gt 3.3.0-alpha6-0ubuntu2 && echo "Condition met" || echo "Condition not met" | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Condition not met | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | $ dpkg --compare-versions 3.3.0.0-0ubuntu1 gt 3.3.0-alpha6-0ubuntu2 && echo "Condition met" || echo "Condition not met" | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Condition met | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | "gt" = "greater than" | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | W: calamares source: superfluous-file-pattern 3rdparty/kdsingleapplicationguard/* [debian/copyright:232] | 14:01 |
| tsimonq2 | W: calamares source: superfluous-file-pattern lang/calamares_i18n.qrc.in [debian/copyright:60] | 14:01 |
| tsimonq2 | W: calamares source: superfluous-file-pattern src/modules/localeq/img/chevron-left-solid.svg [debian/copyright:268] | 14:01 |
| tsimonq2 | bah | 14:01 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Люнесса> Ребят, привет!❤️ Хочу от себя порекомендовать отличный вид деятельности (P2P-трейдинг). Сфера новая и прибыльная. Вот мой наставник (https://t.me/GeorgiycrptoB), он отлично всё объясняет и помогает выйти на доход уже на обучении. Я пришла к нему с 0-в | 14:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Люнесса> Он тебя тоже всему научит и поможет заработать. Его интерес — это % от прибыли. | 14:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Люнесса> Вот ещё его канал (https://t.me/crypto_vers_gr) , там всё тоже подробно рассказывается о механике | 14:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> ta | 14:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> np | 14:03 |
| tsimonq2 | QA testers be aware: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.3.0.0-0ubuntu1 | 14:03 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll wait for that to build/publish in proposed, but I have a cala-settings-ubuntu upload following which changes the icon to our own Special Fancy one (as announced). | 14:04 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm unclear on whether we need to no-change rebuild cala-settings-ubuntu every time we do a major Calamares upload. We should eventually figure that out. :P | 14:05 |
| tsimonq2 | TBH... QML is really nice, but it should probably be moved to a dedicated .ui file... | 14:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Would make the Customize menu scale better. If y'all take a look at the 9to5Linux screenshot, there's a loooooooooooooot of empty whitespace. | 14:07 |
| tsimonq2 | That being said, on my VM, it looks fine, heh. | 14:07 |
| tsimonq2 | #debian-qt-kde on OFTC is a pretttty good channel to be in. | 14:37 |
| tsimonq2 | Specifically: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde-6-planning/-/issues/2 | 14:37 |
| -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Issue 2 in qt-kde-team/kde-6-planning "KF6 source package names" [Opened] | 14:37 | |
| tsimonq2 | And: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde-6-planning/-/issues/1 | 14:37 |
| -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Issue 1 in qt-kde-team/kde-6-planning "Gitlab repo structure" [Opened] | 14:37 | |
| tsimonq2 | Which we'll need for 24.10 Qt 6 stuff. | 14:37 |
| tsimonq2 | I completely agree with RikMills in this: we need to follow the same package naming scheme as Debian, to prevent future conflicts, even *IF!!!!!!!!* that means we have to go ahead of Debian. | 14:38 |
| tsimonq2 | And that's a huge "if." | 14:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Anyway, arraybolt3, kc2bez, @wxl, Eickmeyer I'm specifically interested in your feedback on the above, if you have any. | 14:39 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> I would say essential to be honest. I can't count the number of times it has been helpful to be there (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> #debian-qt-kde on OFTC is a pretttty good channel to be in.) | 14:46 |
| tsimonq2 | ^^^^^^ | 14:46 |
| tsimonq2 | The Debian Qt KDE Team is awesome. | 14:46 |
| tsimonq2 | Also, unlike Libera.Chat, OFTC still has full Matrix bridging :P | 14:47 |
| Eickmeyer | tsimonq2: Agreed. | 15:30 |
| arraybolt3 | Anyone know of a way to pin every single binary package built from a certain source package? Ideally I'd like to pin the entire gcc-13 package to an older version in /etc/apt/preferences.d. (Trying to see if a new compiler broke things.) | 18:39 |
| tsimonq2 | FYI for QA testers: 20231212 does *not* have the new Calamares, I just kicked off a new respin. In 20231212.1 you should expect a Calamares version change. | 18:40 |
| tsimonq2 | 39 16 * * *for-project lubuntu cron.daily-live --live | 18:41 |
| arraybolt3 | I guess an apt hold might work in a pinch | 18:41 |
| tsimonq2 | [ ]noble-desktop-amd64.iso2023-12-12 16:54 | 18:41 |
| tsimonq2 | 54-39 is what, 15 minutes between start and finish? | 18:41 |
| tsimonq2 | The cronjob which grabs the retry requests runs every 5 minutes - so let's assume 15-20 minutes for a new ISO, as an absolute minimum. | 18:42 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: Not 100% sure, but you could either pin a core package that pulls in all the others, or bisect apt list --installed and the list of binary packages. | 18:43 |
| tsimonq2 | #ubuntu probably has a better answer on that *specific* one | 18:43 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: If you ever get bored and want to context switch: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/issue-tracker/-/issues/70 | 20:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Eickmeyer: ^^^^ | 20:03 |
| arraybolt3 | 404 Page not found | 20:04 |
| tsimonq2 | waaaaaaaaaaat | 20:04 |
| tsimonq2 | hm | 20:04 |
| tsimonq2 | Are you logged into Salsa? | 20:04 |
| arraybolt3 | No | 20:04 |
| tsimonq2 | That'll ptobably do it heh | 20:04 |
| arraybolt3 | (Also my day is packed - satpy merge and fix, qtilitools and picom-conf Debian work, I need to reinstall a desktop and get a ZFS backup system working again, and stuff like that.) | 20:05 |
| arraybolt3 | and openMSX, forgot about that one | 20:06 |
| arraybolt3 | and the ciso maintainer in Debian wants to know if I'd like to be a comaintainer, don't know how to answer that :P | 20:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Sounds like your hands certainly are full :) | 20:07 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: I'd say yes lol | 20:08 |
| arraybolt3 | hah | 20:08 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: Anyway, I'm grabbing a package or two from the Qt 6 list. | 20:15 |
| arraybolt3 | +1 | 20:15 |
| tsimonq2 | You would hate me if I ever asked you to do copyright on *any* Qt 6 source. :P | 20:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> running @tsimonq2 install with new calamares.. | 20:21 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> running: tactical strike on Discourse server. (Reboot in progress!) | 20:21 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> /me installs @teward001 into /dev/null | 20:22 |
| * arraybolt3 enables shields on discourse.lubuntu.me | 20:22 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> error: missing universe: discourse_host_system | 20:22 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> First install new cala finished and looks ok so far | 20:22 |
| arraybolt3 | virsh gen-universe discourse_host_system | 20:22 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> Execution error: Input/Output error (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> virsh gen-universe discourse_host_system) | 20:23 |
| arraybolt3 | sudo rm /var/output-blocker | 20:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> no seriously though i'm rebooting the baremetal system I have Discourse on because i'm trying to unfudge some Bridge tom-foolery right now to make it work proper with KVM stuff | 20:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> so either it works, or it breaks and I revert the networking | 20:23 |
| arraybolt3 | Sounds good, you know what you're doing :) | 20:23 |
| * arraybolt3 fiddles with Ubuntu Server trying to make a VM that can run Wine that can be SSH'd into with X forwarding so I can run theWord on a severely underpowered Chromebook by running it on my powerful laptop | 20:24 | |
| tsimonq2 | Okay, qt6-sensors uploaded to Experimental. I might do one or two a day to start, just to get my Qt packaging skills back to par. | 20:39 |
| * tsimonq2 works on $dayjob but is around to answer pings | 20:40 | |
| Eickmeyer | tsimonq2: I logged into salsa, 404 | 20:59 |
| Eickmeyer | (I'm not on the qt-kde-team, might be why) | 21:00 |
| Eickmeyer | I'm strictly on the multimedia-team | 21:00 |
| RikMills | 404 viewing what? | 21:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> 404 viewing what? If you aren't given access to a repo and it's private/delegated/etc. then you have to be given access (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: I logged into salsa, 404) | 21:15 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> I know. @tsimonq2 wanted me to look at https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/issue-tracker/-/issues/70 (re @teward001: 404 viewing what? If you aren't given access to a repo and it's private/delegated/etc. then you have to be given access) | 21:15 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> ye it's locked out | 21:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> I was merely reporting that I don't have access. | 21:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> so @tsimonq2 you have failed | 21:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> :P | 21:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> RikMills ^ | 21:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> I know. Was asking which issue, as some mentioned earlier are definitely public (re @teward001: 404 viewing what? If you aren't given access to a repo and it's private/delegated/etc. then you have to be given access) | 21:18 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/issue-tracker/-/issues/70 (re @RikMills: I know. Was asking which issue, as some mentioned earlier are definitely public) | 21:18 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> Yeah, I can see that, but not if logged out | 21:20 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> I can't see it even if logged-in, so it likely requires team membership. | 21:21 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> Yeah, I was added as a member some while back | 21:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> I guess you have to be the owner of the issue to change perms | 21:30 |
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