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juliank#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:01
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juliank#topic Lightning rounds16:01
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juliank#link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-14-december-2023/16:02
juliank8 minutes left to -write- read16:02
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schopindviererbe: browsing through the sphinx starter kit issue, looks like what you guys need to express levels of coupling matching with Depends, Recommends and Suggests in Debian packaging :)16:07
juliankI also (re) discovered ruff and am wondering if I should switch my autoflake/black/pyupgrade/isort workflow to that instead. So much faster.16:08
dviererbeschopin: Haven't thought of that16:08
juliankSlight formatting differences vs black but not a lot16:08
dviererbewould still be a pain to make sure that the enhancements are working with ancient/non-existing versions16:09
bdmurraycpete: what about python-secretstorage?16:09
schopindviererbe: sure, but at least it would make your life easier, since package builds ignore Recommends :)16:09
schopinSo you could actually *package* the starter kit, which sounds like a good idea to me.16:10
cpetebdmurray: Sorry my report got botched editing it. Working on fixing vorta's autopkgtests so python-secretstorage can get out of proposed-migrations16:10
juliankOh we can extend reading time by 5 minutes16:10
juliankWe only have 1 bug to discuss and there isn't much point doing proposed-migration today16:11
bdmurrayThat's a defeatist attitude16:11
juliankheh16:11
ravikant_schopin: "would have uploaded it but it now FTBFSes" How can I help?16:11
schopinI wanna say "fix it"16:12
schopinMore seriously I think it's linked to the new build flags, so maybe ask doko about it?16:12
ravikant_where can I see the logs?16:13
dviererbeschopin: true, I just think that we do not need some of the dependencies for a package, as you do not need a link preview or redirects locally. This is only interesting for ReadTheDocs, but your bring me to an interesting Idea to also upstream our  packaging templates into the starter pack, so other doumentation projects could reuse it16:13
schopinravikant_: it was a local build, I should probably try in a PPA to make sure, you're right.16:13
schopintoo many irons in the fire at the moment, hard to follow through :/16:14
dviererbe:D16:14
schopinliushuyu: re the versioned package, could you make sure I have everything available by your EOD so that I can review and upload it tomorrow?16:15
ravikant_schopin: There is a ppa link in the MR. I'll update it.16:15
juliankeveryone happy?16:15
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs16:16
juliank#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:16
juliankWe only care about bug 204635616:16
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2046356 in base-files (Ubuntu Noble) "Update URL for Support information in MOTD message" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204635616:16
juliankWe can do that, I don't know if the pro team wanted to upload it themselves, but either way it's trivial16:16
enr0nI tagged because I thought they were asking for us to do it, but that would be good to clarify16:17
bdmurrayThey asked in some MM channel about who maintains the package16:18
bdmurrayAs if it were a specific developer16:18
schopinImplying we should do it, I guess.16:18
juliankWe can do it I guess we have more uploaders16:19
juliank:D16:19
schopinSeems simple enough, too. (famous last words)16:19
juliankcpaelzer: do let us know if updating base-files url from advantage to pro was something pro people wanted to do (maybe sponsoring record or whatever)16:20
juliankI also pinged Lucas on MM fwiw16:20
juliankSo rls-mm-incoming only has the two bugs for desktop and the rest is empty16:20
juliankproposed-migration we'll skip, if you have spare cycles go pick yourself a random one16:21
juliankbut with 1-2 days left it doesn't make much sense16:21
juliank(to assign)16:21
juliank#topic AOB16:21
dbungert2 weeks ago python3-defaults was mentioned, what's happening there?16:21
juliankDebian is doing the transition too and we let the fixes roll in more or less16:22
schopinI think it has kept ginggs busy16:22
juliankI think just retrying that after the break may be useful16:22
juliankor mid-break if anyone is at a machine :D16:22
ginggsfeel free to look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=python3.12&users=debian-python@lists.debian.org16:23
ginggsyou should have no trouble finding sponsors for uploads to debian16:23
cpeteis the process similar in debian?16:24
cpaelzerthank you juliank, I sayid to Lucas he should prep the upload as training simple packaging. If it is foundations or server core-devs then review&sponsors I do not mind. Expect noble soon but SRUs of the same only next year16:24
cpetefor sponsorship I mean16:24
schopincpete: not really, but we have several people in Foundations that are part of the Python team that can sponsor for you.16:25
ginggsprobably best to ask in # debian-python on OFTC16:25
cpeteack, thanks schopin and ginggs16:25
juliankcpaelzer: ack16:25
ginggsor mail debian-python @ lists.debian.org16:26
ginggsdebian don't really have a thing like our sponsor queue16:27
schopinAre mentors.debian.net and RFS emails not a thing anymore?16:27
* schopin does *not* miss that process.16:28
ginggsthey still are16:28
ginggsbut you're likely to get a quicker response from the python team16:29
juliankI'd say ping me, but I'd be surprised if I were in debina-python team16:29
juliank:D16:29
juliankI also was in the GNOME team at some point16:30
bdmurrayaob?16:32
bdmurrayjuliank: ?16:34
juliank#endmeeting16:34
meetingologyMeeting ended at 16:34:48 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-12-14-16.01.moin.txt16:34

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