[16:00] <juliank> o/
[16:01] <ginggs> o/
[16:01] <ogra> yoga class starting ?
[16:01] <waveform> \o/
[16:01] <juliank> /o/
[16:01] <juliank> \o\
[16:01] <enr0n> o/
[16:01] <ravikant_> o/
[16:01] <juliank>  /o\
[16:01] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:01] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[16:01] <adrien> \o
[16:01] <schopin> o/
[16:01] <zhsj> o/
[16:01] <dviererbe> o/
[16:02] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-14-december-2023/
[16:02] <juliank> 8 minutes left to -write- read
[16:04] <Skia> o/
[16:07] <upils> o/
[16:07] <schopin> dviererbe: browsing through the sphinx starter kit issue, looks like what you guys need to express levels of coupling matching with Depends, Recommends and Suggests in Debian packaging :)
[16:08] <juliank> I also (re) discovered ruff and am wondering if I should switch my autoflake/black/pyupgrade/isort workflow to that instead. So much faster.
[16:08] <dviererbe> schopin: Haven't thought of that
[16:08] <juliank> Slight formatting differences vs black but not a lot
[16:09] <dviererbe> would still be a pain to make sure that the enhancements are working with ancient/non-existing versions
[16:09] <bdmurray> cpete: what about python-secretstorage?
[16:09] <schopin> dviererbe: sure, but at least it would make your life easier, since package builds ignore Recommends :)
[16:10] <schopin> So you could actually *package* the starter kit, which sounds like a good idea to me.
[16:10] <cpete> bdmurray: Sorry my report got botched editing it. Working on fixing vorta's autopkgtests so python-secretstorage can get out of proposed-migrations
[16:10] <juliank> Oh we can extend reading time by 5 minutes
[16:11] <juliank> We only have 1 bug to discuss and there isn't much point doing proposed-migration today
[16:11] <bdmurray> That's a defeatist attitude
[16:11] <juliank> heh
[16:11] <ravikant_> schopin: "would have uploaded it but it now FTBFSes" How can I help?
[16:12] <schopin> I wanna say "fix it"
[16:12] <schopin> More seriously I think it's linked to the new build flags, so maybe ask doko about it?
[16:13] <ravikant_> where can I see the logs?
[16:13] <dviererbe> schopin: true, I just think that we do not need some of the dependencies for a package, as you do not need a link preview or redirects locally. This is only interesting for ReadTheDocs, but your bring me to an interesting Idea to also upstream our  packaging templates into the starter pack, so other doumentation projects could reuse it
[16:13] <schopin> ravikant_: it was a local build, I should probably try in a PPA to make sure, you're right.
[16:14] <schopin> too many irons in the fire at the moment, hard to follow through :/
[16:14] <dviererbe> :D
[16:15] <schopin> liushuyu: re the versioned package, could you make sure I have everything available by your EOD so that I can review and upload it tomorrow?
[16:15] <ravikant_> schopin: There is a ppa link in the MR. I'll update it.
[16:15] <juliank> everyone happy?
[16:16] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:16] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:16] <juliank> We only care about bug 2046356
[16:16] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2046356 in base-files (Ubuntu Noble) "Update URL for Support information in MOTD message" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046356
[16:16] <juliank> We can do that, I don't know if the pro team wanted to upload it themselves, but either way it's trivial
[16:17] <enr0n> I tagged because I thought they were asking for us to do it, but that would be good to clarify
[16:18] <bdmurray> They asked in some MM channel about who maintains the package
[16:18] <bdmurray> As if it were a specific developer
[16:18] <schopin> Implying we should do it, I guess.
[16:19] <juliank> We can do it I guess we have more uploaders
[16:19] <juliank> :D
[16:19] <schopin> Seems simple enough, too. (famous last words)
[16:20] <juliank> cpaelzer: do let us know if updating base-files url from advantage to pro was something pro people wanted to do (maybe sponsoring record or whatever)
[16:20] <juliank> I also pinged Lucas on MM fwiw
[16:20] <juliank> So rls-mm-incoming only has the two bugs for desktop and the rest is empty
[16:21] <juliank> proposed-migration we'll skip, if you have spare cycles go pick yourself a random one
[16:21] <juliank> but with 1-2 days left it doesn't make much sense
[16:21] <juliank> (to assign)
[16:21] <juliank> #topic AOB
[16:21] <dbungert> 2 weeks ago python3-defaults was mentioned, what's happening there?
[16:22] <juliank> Debian is doing the transition too and we let the fixes roll in more or less
[16:22] <schopin> I think it has kept ginggs busy
[16:22] <juliank> I think just retrying that after the break may be useful
[16:22] <juliank> or mid-break if anyone is at a machine :D
[16:23] <ginggs> feel free to look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=python3.12&users=debian-python@lists.debian.org
[16:23] <ginggs> you should have no trouble finding sponsors for uploads to debian
[16:24] <cpete> is the process similar in debian?
[16:24] <cpaelzer> thank you juliank, I sayid to Lucas he should prep the upload as training simple packaging. If it is foundations or server core-devs then review&sponsors I do not mind. Expect noble soon but SRUs of the same only next year
[16:24] <cpete> for sponsorship I mean
[16:25] <schopin> cpete: not really, but we have several people in Foundations that are part of the Python team that can sponsor for you.
[16:25] <ginggs> probably best to ask in # debian-python on OFTC
[16:25] <cpete> ack, thanks schopin and ginggs
[16:25] <juliank> cpaelzer: ack
[16:26] <ginggs> or mail debian-python @ lists.debian.org
[16:27] <ginggs> debian don't really have a thing like our sponsor queue
[16:27] <schopin> Are mentors.debian.net and RFS emails not a thing anymore?
[16:28]  * schopin does *not* miss that process.
[16:28] <ginggs> they still are
[16:29] <ginggs> but you're likely to get a quicker response from the python team
[16:29] <juliank> I'd say ping me, but I'd be surprised if I were in debina-python team
[16:29] <juliank> :D
[16:30] <juliank> I also was in the GNOME team at some point
[16:32] <bdmurray> aob?
[16:34] <bdmurray> juliank: ?
[16:34] <juliank> #endmeeting
[16:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:34:48 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-12-14-16.01.moin.txt