[03:52] <en1gma> im thinking about partition my single 1TB m.2 so i can install ubuntu 24.04 daily fresh but than i was thinking do i need to install ubuntu 22.04.3 lts then just do the system-upgrade to 24.04 or a fresh install
[03:53] <en1gma> or should it not be the ubuntu 24.04 daily and just the ubuntu 24.04 off the ubuntu website?
[03:53] <en1gma> what is the best way to install ubuntu 24.04 when you dont have a nix installed yet
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: its reccomended to help testing devel releases fresh/daily
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> to rule out issues/bugs from a previous release
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> unless someone wants to test the upgrading process specificly
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> and 22.04 to 24.04 upgrade is still closed for upgrading anyway
[03:56] <en1gma> lotuspsychje yea but do i do an actual fresh install with a daily on a windows 11 dual boot?
[03:56] <en1gma> ahhh. its just getting so close i was wondering about that
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> thats the users choice en1gma 
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> up to you what kind of layout you want to install
[03:57] <en1gma> no recommendations? any problems with bootloader if i do the daily over the non daily on a dual boot?
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> we got testers of all kinds physical and virtual VM
[03:58] <en1gma> on the 1TB i was just going to shring it to 1/2 the size. so 450GB for windows and 450GB for unbuntu 24.04 but wasnt sure on the actual partition layout. i have a YT video up right now on pause where the guy has set aside 200GB and hes getting ready to do the partition layout for / , swap and /boot i think
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> if you have an existing 22.04 dualboot, you can just install 24.04 just the same way you did
[03:59] <en1gma> ive installed 24.04 several times already but just wanted to make sure the grub wasnt broke in the daily
[04:00] <en1gma> nope. just shrank the 950GB partition in windows with disk management and didnt even create a filesystem on it yet
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> the installer will prob even suggest you what to do with previous install/partition
[04:00] <en1gma> was going to let ubuntu 24.04 do that
[04:00] <en1gma> its blank
[04:00] <en1gma> i think i will make sure its gpt though. forgot that
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> dont think there are currently known bugs on grub
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> make backups before you play :p
[04:01] <en1gma> yep its guid gpt
[04:01] <en1gma> ok cool. i grabbing 24.04 daily amd64-desktop then 
[04:01] <en1gma> thanks
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> good luck!
[04:01] <en1gma> see you after a bit. got to make some food and start the download
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> there was a subiquity bug before aborting the installer, bug i think its solved by now
[04:02] <en1gma> fresh image was put up today. cool
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> yeah hence the name daily
[04:02] <en1gma> sometimes those dailys arent dailys though
[04:03] <en1gma> i see lots of 2 and 3 days back quite often
[04:03] <en1gma> sometimes a little longer too
[04:03] <en1gma> is that just the repo not updating i mean does ubuntu daily actually upload images every single day no matter what?
[04:17] <ravage> if the build fails there is no build
[04:18] <ravage> or maybe there were just no changes at all. i dont know if that would also not trigger a daily
[04:21] <en1gma> right on
[04:21] <johnjohn101> en1gma: if you do updates, you get to the daily no mater which .iso you download
[04:23] <en1gma> true true. i should probably start with the 24.04 and update from there but too late i downloaded the daily and about ready to write it right now. is fat32 and iso the best way to do it?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> im using the ubuntu installer maker always
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> for ubuntu flavours
[04:24] <en1gma> dont that maker make it mbr and not gpt by default?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> and ventoy for windows iso's
[04:25] <johnjohn101> en1gma:  just dd to usbkey..  you should just start with the most recent .iso, not much has changed
[04:25] <ravage> if you want to boot the iso and do the installation you can open "startup disk creator" in ubuntu and write it to a flash drive
[04:26] <en1gma> yea but for secure boot to work correctly i thought even the media has to be GPT format for it not to break secure boot with uefi 
[04:26] <ravage> does not matter
[04:26] <en1gma> i use DD with kali-linux. it dont like iso method
[04:26] <ravage> whatever the iso method is
[04:26] <en1gma> from within windows 11 and rufus
[04:27] <ravage> but dd works
[04:27] <johnjohn101> rufus works
[04:27] <en1gma> the only issue i ever have with dd is i have to use diskparted to get the usb drive back. disk management wont do it
[04:27] <ravage> best results are from etcher.
[04:27] <johnjohn101> ravage: i've been using dd for years. 
[04:27] <en1gma> now that i figured that out its a breeze
[04:28] <ravage> success rate is at about 100%
[04:28] <ravage> (for windows)
[04:28] <en1gma> can dd be used to back a whole drive up and restore with dual boot? kind of like acronis image?
[04:28] <en1gma> ahhh
[04:29] <en1gma> ive only used dd from windows a few times and almost always with kali
[04:29] <en1gma> ubuntu i usually do use iso but always wondered if it would be better to select dd
[04:29] <en1gma> i think i will do dd right now
[04:29] <en1gma> thanks
[04:29] <johnjohn101> i use rufus with windows and dd from ubuntu
[04:30] <en1gma> ohh. dd scares me from within ubuntu/linux :)
[04:30] <en1gma> all them byte secotrs and other parameters you have to use
[04:30] <johnjohn101> :(
[04:31] <johnjohn101> i copy a dd command from the internet
[04:31] <en1gma> i need a gui for dd if im in ubuntu :) i dont even like copy and pasting the dd command
[04:31] <en1gma> yep yep but that scares me some times because if they are using an older hdd and you using a m.2 nvme i dont know what happens
[04:32] <johnjohn101> use rufus on windows then. you'll be good to go
[04:32] <en1gma> those byte sectors and i forget the other parameters 
[04:32] <en1gma> yep yep. i just get used to diskparted. its not bad
[04:32] <en1gma> i use gparted or disks in ubuntu
[04:32] <en1gma> 99% of the time
[04:33] <en1gma> disks is pretty good
[04:38] <en1gma> bbiab. just wrote and i ate so time to install :)
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> the firmware updater app stalls on me currently
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> can anyone reproduce that?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> dec 16 05:40:22 r00tb0x firmware-updater.firmware-updater-app[164860]: libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> dec 16 05:40:22 r00tb0x firmware-update[164860]: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" 
[05:09] <en1gma> the daily desktop for noble wouldnt let me install. after the "try ubuntu" the next box that pops up is all white
[05:09] <en1gma> dloading 12-14-2023 amd64 desktop now
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> prob a secureboot issue en1gma 
[05:10] <en1gma> grrr not a good way to start off :) i did try the safe graphics mode and it was the same thing but big white box.
[05:10] <en1gma> ive used 24.04 with secure boot before
[05:10] <en1gma> no issues
[05:11] <en1gma> i never installed 24.04 but i booted the live or try ubuntu many times. last time was a week or 2 ago though
[05:11] <en1gma> how do you get older dailys? i went up to a parent folder but it only showed 12-14-2023
[05:14] <en1gma> i bet 12-14-2023 will have same problem but who knows. will try it and if it dont work ill probably start looking for older releases. the only problem i still see that i cannot belive is not fixed in all the 22.04, 23.10 and 24.04 (all flavors i checked) is that they still cant get me into 4k@60hz on the try ubuntus. if i install its fine. where debian live gets 4k@60hz right away with 
[05:14] <en1gma> no problems. i mean it defaults the desktop at 4k@30hz but you can change it to 4k@60hz in the drop down menu
[05:15] <en1gma> where none of the ubuntus have that. drop down menu = 30hz and less
[05:15] <en1gma> unless you actually install. still cant believe thats not fixed. you know thats a type in there somewhere.
[05:15] <en1gma> or just something really really small
[05:17] <en1gma> writing ubuntu 24.04 (12-14-2023) now. will try again soon
[05:19] <en1gma> im pretty close to installing debian but i hanging in there for ubuntu
[05:20] <en1gma> yea the live version shouldnt matter with secure boot at all while in that mode.
[05:21] <en1gma> right after i press F11 to select my ubuntu usb stick at boot time the next screen where you select try ubuntu, try ubuntu with safe graphics that screens fine. its the next screen thats a white box with the ubuntu desktop showing. i did X out the installer box and clicked the desktop icon to start another install but same thing. just a white box
[05:23] <en1gma> ok finished writing. probably be back in a bit if it dont let me install
[05:26] <en1gma> yep that didnt work either. ok i need a ubuntu 24.04 daily for amd64-desktop thats about 2 weeks old. where can i get one :)
[05:29] <en1gma> gonna try ubuntu daily 24.04 (mate)
[05:32] <en1gma> one last try :)
[05:38] <en1gma> actually i not doing that. ill just install ubuntu 22.04 and do updates. dont got time to be doing this. i should be installed by now. ok no ubuntu-next for me sorry guys
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> i affected & confirmed bug #2046470
[09:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2046470 in irqbalance (Ubuntu) "irqbalance loop of blank messages" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046470
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> see if anyone else sees this on journal logs on noble (desktop on my case)
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> i removed firmware-updater snap as a test and reinstalled, but no dice still blank app after launching