[03:05] my xubuntu laptop keeps crashing, i'm pretty sure the culprit is discord [03:05] i've tried using the official program, webcord, and another one that adds audio streaming functionality and even the website itself [03:05] they all crash my system [03:05] anyone else having a similar problem? [03:09] it's crashing so hard i'm getting logged out of my system [03:09] sometimes it totally reboots [03:10] it keeps saying a system problem was detecting but it doesn't give specifics [03:10] wat do [03:22] xu-irc67w: you could look at your logs, whic are accessible with the journalctl command [03:23] i'm very bad at the command line [03:23] there's a GUI application for it for at least gnome, too, called 'Logs' [03:24] but debugging things usually involves learning your way around the shell, at least some basics. [03:26] there are at least twelve errors listed here [03:26] they are in the "important" category [03:27] gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file [03:30] there are so damn many [03:30] this is gonna take some time [03:32] here's a shortcut: journalctl -b -p4 | nc termbin.com 9999 [03:33] https://termbin.com/2zrs [03:39] no mention of discord. maybe you need to reduce the log message filtering to messages of any priority (omit -p4). [03:40] i ommitted -p4 and it didn't give me a link [03:41] other than that, there seems to be some issue with your bios rgearding graphics, with your amd graphics driver(s) and several with skype [03:41] hmm [03:41] the computer is pretty damn new [03:41] it's a lenovo ideapad [03:41] so that's probably why [03:41] couldbe just too new [03:41] yes that's what i'm finding [03:42] i'm contemplating shrinking the windows partition on my surface pro 7 and installing xubuntu in the unallocated space [03:42] oh i think we already discussed this system the other day [03:42] yes that's right [03:42] i have a solution for the audio problem, (USB mic) but it's still wildly unstable [03:43] i'm going to let this thing run for a while without discord, see if it's skype doing it [03:43] how would a microsoft surface pro 7 do with xubuntu? [03:43] it's old enough that i would think it would have driver support [03:44] i would not know. try searching the web for it. [03:44] ok i'll do some digging [03:44] i could also always make a live usb install and test it that way [03:45] as long as it can boot from that, sure [03:45] based on what i've seen xubuntu can handle hopping from system unit to system unit [03:45] i was going to install it to the sd card but the slot isn't bootable sadly [03:45] a common bios limitation [03:46] bit sad innit [03:46] yes, better buy well done firmware if you can tell how - which isn't that easy [03:47] yeah the capability of the bios isn't generally listed in the specs [03:47] not as far as i can tell [03:48] https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface discusses its bios and restrictions [03:48] oh cool [03:48] there's also a channel dedicated to this hardware here (as is indicated there) [03:49] #linux-surface [03:49] the fact that there is a custom kernel probably means you won't be able to enjoy it that much. [03:49] yeah this doesn't seem viable [03:49] damn [03:50] https://www.linux.org/threads/ubuntu-22-04-on-surface-pro-7.43071/ [03:50] https://devicetests.com/microsoft-surface-pro-7-ubuntu-20-04-compatibility [03:51] bbl [03:51] yeah the more i read the less i want to do it now [03:52] it's pretty involved, i guess my heart isn't in it right now too much has gone wrong recently [03:52] how would i find the cause of the last system crash? [03:52] it booted me to the login screen so there must be some way to find that info [03:53] i'd like to at least know what the cause was [03:58] xu-irc67w: Anything in /var/crash/ directory ? [03:59] yes [03:59] but nothing from today [03:59] which is strange === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [04:30] it's obviously crashed at least three times today but it returns no errors [04:30] no crash logs from today at all [04:38] xu-irc67w: dmesg ; /var/log/syslog ? [04:51] is there a graphical way to read syslog? [04:54] xu-irc67w: Long time back I know there was a GUI reder - Now-a-days I do not know of one; Mostly I am of a text user interface - have not given a GUI means a thought. [05:06] so i'm kind of stuck then [05:07] i just don't have the energy to try to figure out the command line for this right now [05:07] i guess until things are fixed i'm using my surface for discord [05:08] xu-irc67w: are the log files so large your file manager can not load ? - thgen there is the tool "less". [05:17] holy crap syslog.1 is 138 MiB [05:17] how are these things handled?  are all the syslogs for each day combined into a single master file or something? [05:22] xu-irc67w: Default ? logs are compressed when a certain size is reached - then log-rotate removes older compressed logs. [10:10] Hy, need Help, in German at the best, Bluetooth doesn't find my Headset [10:13] installed Bluetooth Adapter and Mananger, ToolBLEx [13:37] hello [15:34] xu-irc67w: I'd guess "amdgpu" errors seem the most severe based on your logs. Maybe just related to suspend/hibernate--you could try disabling that. Again such device issues likely got fixed with later kernel/firmware versions--try the recent live system to compare. Also loads of clogging by Skype--i'd first remove Skype and observe. [17:15] damn i use skype pretty heavily [17:15] that's a problem [17:17] this install was done with brand new install media as well [17:54] xu-irc67w, why don't you just use web skype?