[03:05] <xu-irc67w> my xubuntu laptop keeps crashing, i'm pretty sure the culprit is discord
[03:05] <xu-irc67w> i've tried using the official program, webcord, and another one that adds audio streaming functionality and even the website itself
[03:05] <xu-irc67w> they all crash my system
[03:05] <xu-irc67w> anyone else having a similar problem?
[03:09] <xu-irc67w> it's crashing so hard i'm getting logged out of my system
[03:09] <xu-irc67w> sometimes it totally reboots
[03:10] <xu-irc67w> it keeps saying a system problem was detecting but it doesn't give specifics
[03:10] <xu-irc67w> wat do
[03:22] <tomreyn> xu-irc67w: you could look at your logs, whic are accessible with the journalctl command
[03:23] <xu-irc67w> i'm very bad at the command line
[03:23] <tomreyn> there's a GUI application for it for at least gnome, too, called 'Logs'
[03:24] <tomreyn> but debugging things usually involves learning your way around the shell, at least some basics.
[03:26] <xu-irc67w> there are at least twelve errors listed here
[03:26] <xu-irc67w> they are in the "important" category
[03:27] <xu-irc67w> gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
[03:30] <xu-irc67w> there are so damn many
[03:30] <xu-irc67w> this is gonna take some time
[03:32] <tomreyn> here's a shortcut:  journalctl -b -p4 | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:33] <xu-irc67w> https://termbin.com/2zrs
[03:39] <tomreyn> no mention of discord. maybe you need to reduce the log message filtering to messages of any priority (omit -p4).
[03:40] <xu-irc67w> i ommitted -p4 and it didn't give me a link
[03:41] <tomreyn> other than that, there seems to be some issue with your bios rgearding graphics, with your amd graphics driver(s) and several with skype
[03:41] <xu-irc67w> hmm
[03:41] <xu-irc67w> the computer is pretty damn new
[03:41] <xu-irc67w> it's a lenovo ideapad
[03:41] <xu-irc67w> so that's probably why
[03:41] <tomreyn> couldbe just too new
[03:41] <xu-irc67w> yes that's what i'm finding
[03:42] <xu-irc67w> i'm contemplating shrinking the windows partition on my surface pro 7 and installing xubuntu in the unallocated space
[03:42] <tomreyn> oh i think we already discussed this system the other day
[03:42] <xu-irc67w> yes that's right
[03:42] <xu-irc67w> i have a solution for the audio problem, (USB mic) but it's still wildly unstable
[03:43] <xu-irc67w> i'm going to let this thing run for a while without discord, see if it's skype doing it
[03:43] <xu-irc67w> how would a microsoft surface pro 7 do with xubuntu?
[03:43] <xu-irc67w> it's old enough that i would think it would have driver support
[03:44] <tomreyn> i would not know. try searching the web for it.
[03:44] <xu-irc67w> ok i'll do some digging
[03:44] <xu-irc67w> i could also always make a live usb install and test it that way
[03:45] <tomreyn> as long as it can boot from that, sure
[03:45] <xu-irc67w> based on what i've seen xubuntu can handle hopping from system unit to system unit
[03:45] <xu-irc67w> i was going to install it to the sd card but the slot isn't bootable sadly
[03:45] <tomreyn> a common bios limitation
[03:46] <xu-irc67w> bit sad innit
[03:46] <tomreyn> yes, better buy well done firmware if you can tell how - which isn't that easy
[03:47] <xu-irc67w> yeah the capability of the bios isn't generally listed in the specs
[03:47] <xu-irc67w> not as far as i can tell
[03:48] <tomreyn> https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface discusses its bios and restrictions
[03:48] <xu-irc67w> oh cool
[03:48] <tomreyn> there's also a channel dedicated to this hardware here (as is indicated there)
[03:49] <tomreyn> #linux-surface
[03:49] <tomreyn> the fact that there is a custom kernel probably means you won't be able to enjoy it that much.
[03:49] <xu-irc67w> yeah this doesn't seem viable
[03:49] <xu-irc67w> damn
[03:50] <tomreyn> https://www.linux.org/threads/ubuntu-22-04-on-surface-pro-7.43071/
[03:50] <tomreyn> https://devicetests.com/microsoft-surface-pro-7-ubuntu-20-04-compatibility
[03:51] <tomreyn> bbl
[03:51] <xu-irc67w> yeah the more i read the less i want to do it now
[03:52] <xu-irc67w> it's pretty involved, i guess my heart isn't in it right now too much has gone wrong recently
[03:52] <xu-irc67w> how would i find the cause of the last system crash?
[03:52] <xu-irc67w> it booted me to the login screen so there must be some way to find that info
[03:53] <xu-irc67w> i'd like to at least know what the cause was
[03:58] <Bashing-om> xu-irc67w: Anything in /var/crash/ directory ?
[03:59] <xu-irc67w> yes
[03:59] <xu-irc67w> but nothing from today
[03:59] <xu-irc67w> which is strange
[04:30] <xu-irc67w> it's obviously crashed at least three times today but it returns no errors
[04:30] <xu-irc67w> no crash logs from today at all
[04:38] <Bashing-om> xu-irc67w: dmesg ; /var/log/syslog ?
[04:51] <xu-irc67w> is there a graphical way to read syslog?
[04:54] <Bashing-om> xu-irc67w: Long time back I know there was a GUI reder - Now-a-days I do not know of one; Mostly I am of a text user interface - have not given a GUI means a thought.
[05:06] <xu-irc67w> so i'm kind of stuck then
[05:07] <xu-irc67w> i just don't have the energy to try to figure out the command line for this right now
[05:07] <xu-irc67w> i guess until things are fixed i'm using my surface for discord
[05:08] <Bashing-om> xu-irc67w: are the log files so large your file manager can not load ? - thgen there is the tool "less".
[05:17] <xu-irc67w> holy crap syslog.1 is 138 MiB
[05:17] <xu-irc67w> how are these things handled?  are all the syslogs for each day combined into a single master file or something?
[05:22] <Bashing-om> xu-irc67w: Default ? logs are compressed when a certain size is reached - then log-rotate removes older compressed logs.
[10:10] <opi> Hy, need Help, in German at the best, Bluetooth doesn't find my Headset
[10:13] <opi> installed Bluetooth Adapter and Mananger,  ToolBLEx
[13:37] <chibcha> hello
[15:34] <torv> xu-irc67w: I'd guess "amdgpu" errors seem the most severe based on your logs. Maybe just related to suspend/hibernate--you could try disabling that. Again such device issues likely got fixed with later kernel/firmware versions--try the recent live system to compare. Also loads of clogging by Skype--i'd first remove Skype and observe.
[17:15] <xu-irc67w> damn i use skype pretty heavily
[17:15] <xu-irc67w> that's a problem
[17:17] <xu-irc67w> this install was done with brand new install media as well
[17:54] <diogenes_Vx15> xu-irc67w, why don't you just use web skype?