[00:14] <lubot> [matrix] <kc2bez> Maybe it is just me but I had an issue installing a web browser on a minimal install. I didn't try on a normal install yet. I tried Falkon, qutebrowser, and Gnome web since I knew they all were in the archive. They all seg fault at start.
[00:15] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Oh *wow*. Okay, nice. Something's not pulling in the right backends...
[00:16] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> It seems like, I haven't narrowed it down yet. I thought I would mention it so we could all investigate.
[00:43] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> Can confirm this on the Kubuntu daily ISO
[00:49] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Oh fun, that stretches beyond where I was looking.
[00:49] <lubot> [matrix] <arraybolt3> sounds like a library changed wrong
[00:56] <lubot> [matrix] <arraybolt3> does the build tooling ever "forget" to do a soname bump or something?
[01:00] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> qutebrowser may be easiest to look at, as it has the fewest dependencies
[01:04] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Could potentially just be an NCR
[01:05] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> worth trying in a ppa
[01:05] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> I remember qutebrowser working somewhat recently.....
[01:07] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> the whole FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 thing is also making some things go weird
[01:08] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> though I don't immediately see something common between these recently rebuilt with that
[01:21] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> 💤🛏 time
[02:12] <arraybolt3> I wonder if the browser nonsense potentially has the same root cause as the riscv64 failure mess
[06:44] <arraybolt3> teward: rearranging power levels?
[06:44]  * arraybolt3 just got the email that I now have ISO rebuild rights
[14:32] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> for Qt based apps, seems like this crash could be affecting anything that uses qtwebengine
[14:33] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> ghostwriter, tellico, notepadqq all crash on start
[14:33] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> and those are only the 1st 3 I tried
[14:36] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> qtwebengine hasn't been rebuilt in noble for nearly a month, so something else has changed to make it misbehave
[14:39] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> /me looks suspiciously at ICU
[14:57] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/b221e1c5/file_10265.jpg
[14:57] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> Forwarded from RikMills: ^^ ghostwiter
[14:57] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/00dce717/file_10266.jpg
[14:57] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> Forwarded from RikMills: falkon ^^
[16:16] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> where is calamares packaging now?
[21:25] <arraybolt3> did picom-conf already get seeded?
[21:25] <arraybolt3> actually, /me checks
[21:26] <arraybolt3> it is not, I'll add it
[21:27] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Ack jfdi
[21:28] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> +1
[21:28] <arraybolt3> and added
[21:28] <arraybolt3> now to regen the lubuntu-desktop metapackage
[21:29] <arraybolt3> uh oh, meta was last updated in... Lunar?!
[21:29]  * arraybolt3 fixes
[21:30] <arraybolt3> ah, no, just hasn't been uploaded to Git.
[21:36] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: just to be sure I remember how to do this, I just run the "update" script, fix the changelog, and then that's it, right?
[21:36] <arraybolt3> (and then of course upload to Git and LP)
[21:38] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> That sounds correct
[21:38] <arraybolt3> for some reason when I do that, Git asks me for my username and password to LP even though I have SSH configured I thought...
[21:39] <arraybolt3> I mean I literally just cloned and pushed over SSH a second ago updating the seeds themselves.
[21:39] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Yeah, LP is a little different
[21:39] <arraybolt3> I was pulling and pushing to/from LP
[21:39] <arraybolt3> with SSH, successfully
[21:39] <arraybolt3> so idk what it's doing
[21:40] <arraybolt3> I know for a fact I used to have SSH pull/push working here.
[21:41] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Gotcha
[21:41] <arraybolt3> I think it's an ssh config issue... lemme try adding the server explicitly.
[21:41] <arraybolt3> oh, of course it is
[21:41] <arraybolt3> because in my VM, my username is "user", not "arraybolt3"
[21:41] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Makes sense
[21:41] <arraybolt3> so it's trying to ssh in as "user" with the wrong key
[21:46] <arraybolt3> got it working
[22:07] <lubot> [matrix] <arraybolt3> hmm, picom-conf isn't in the archives yet it appears
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[23:01] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Yeah, you have it right :)
[23:01] <tsimonq2> Alright guys, *where* is the critical bug?
[23:01] <tsimonq2> "But Simon, we haven't found anything recently?"
[23:02] <tsimonq2> No, I can feel it. There's one somewhere. It has been raining *too* hard for it not to be pouring.
[23:02] <tsimonq2> Show yourself, bug. :P
[23:04] <kc2bez> ICU or qtwebengine? 
[23:05] <tsimonq2> The latter takes like a day to build on a fast machine, I'm not excited for that :P
[23:05] <kc2bez> Yeah, I don't think anyone is 
[23:05] <arraybolt3> You asked for a critical bug, not an easy one :P
[23:06] <arraybolt3> I'm willing to build it on my machine though if it would be helpful.
[23:06] <arraybolt3> Alternatively we could just NCR it and see what happens
[23:06] <kc2bez> Rik left some screenshots above 
[23:09] <tsimonq2> Both qutebrowser and ghostwriter launch without issue on my system...
[23:10] <kc2bez> 🤔 
[23:10] <RikMills> weird
[23:10] <RikMills> falkon?
[23:11] <RikMills> tsimonq2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/falkon/+bug/2046796
[23:11] <kc2bez> You've updated, right? 
[23:17] <arraybolt3> Doesn't launch in a brand new Noble VM over here.
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Falkon: Creating new profile directory
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Error creating database schema "No query Unable to fetch row"
[23:18] <arraybolt3> [1712:1712:1218/181615.678815:FATAL:credentials.cc(125)] Check failed: . : Permission denied (13)
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[23:18] <tsimonq2> Fully updated noble system here.
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Might be graphics hardware related?
[23:19] <tsimonq2> $ apt list --installed | pastebinit
[23:19] <tsimonq2> https://dpaste.com/CYHXNFRXM
[23:20] <arraybolt3> Same version of qtwebengine over here
[23:21] <tsimonq2> maybe I have extra qtwebengine packages that the default install does not?
[23:26] <arraybolt3> https://dpaste.com/ESFQWEMD8
[23:26] <arraybolt3> looks like we have the same webengine packages
[23:27] <arraybolt3> I wonder if this is a SIGILL?
[23:29] <arraybolt3> hrm, kernel message is pretty cryptic
[23:30] <arraybolt3> kernel: [ 2760.894641] traps: falkon[1712] trap int3 ip:7f50be9d7b13 sp:7ffc7a5755a0 error:0 in libQtWebEngineCore.so.5.15.15[7f50bc7b4000+6931000]
[23:30] <arraybolt3> I don't know what a breakpoint trap is...
[23:30] <RikMills> curious that epiphany creashes with the same Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[23:31] <RikMills> despite not using qtwebengine
[23:31] <arraybolt3> It's almost like something got built in debug mode?
[23:31] <arraybolt3> And had a breakpoint left...? Is that even possible?
[23:38] <arraybolt3> Epiphany sigtrap is in g_log_structured_array in libglib-2.0
[23:39] <arraybolt3> https://i.imgur.com/15jwUUz.png
[23:40] <arraybolt3> oh interesting, look at this:
[23:41] <arraybolt3> https://i.imgur.com/3XUUKMv.png
[23:41] <arraybolt3> I managed to get a SIGILL out of Falkon after the SIGTRAP
[23:41] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/1457f9af/file_10269.jpg
[23:42] <arraybolt3> wait so there's literally a breakpoint defined in the code?
[23:42] <RikMills> something to do with logging in qt and gtk apps
[23:44] <arraybolt3> trying falkon with debuginfod now
[23:44] <arraybolt3> this is certainly the weirdest error of this sort I've ever seen
[23:46] <RikMills> the last week or 2 seems to have been full of wierd crashes and bugs
[23:52] <arraybolt3> debuginfod seems to have done almost nothing helpful (didn't get any fancy code snippet like you did), but both the SIGTRAP and the SIGILL are happening in that LogMessage() destructor.
[23:52] <arraybolt3> RikMills: Are you working in a VM or on real hardware?
[23:53] <arraybolt3> If in a VM, are you using host CPU passthrough? If not, could you try that?
[23:53] <arraybolt3> I have a distant thought in the back of my mind that maybe somehow a setting set for the x86_64-v3 rebuild of Lunar somehow propagated to Noble on accident.
[23:54] <RikMills> not sure if I can set that in virtualbox
[23:54] <arraybolt3> hrm, I'll try it on my end then