| max_earthican | HI, just wanted to share that im really enjoying Xubuntu. My pc was dying from Bad windows management of Optane memory with HDD, I made a clean install of Xubuntu instead and this PC has new life.. The UI is excellent, and i will recommend this to anyone that wants a fast OS with all that you need for daily use. Thank you Xubuntu team. | 13:01 |
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| xu-irc67w | can someone tell me how to update the kernel to the latest stable version? these constant crashes aren't tolerable | 19:37 |
| xu-irc67w | this thing has crashed four times in 30 minutes | 19:37 |
| xu-irc67w | it's either that or i have to downgrade to a different laptop which i just can't afford | 19:37 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | xu-irc67w, how do you know it's kernel's fault/ | 19:43 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ? | 19:43 |
| xu-irc67w | i can't really think of anything else | 19:44 |
| xu-irc67w | this is a brand new computer | 19:44 |
| xu-irc67w | i checked the logs and i'm getting tons of amd crashes | 19:45 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | so it's an amd graphics? | 19:45 |
| xu-irc67w | yes, amd ryzen | 19:45 |
| xu-irc67w | [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process pid 0 thread pid 0 | 19:46 |
| xu-irc67w | [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring sdma0 timeout, signaled seq=24296, emitted seq=24297 | 19:46 |
| xu-irc67w | it crashes every hour at least | 19:46 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | it's would sound kind of weird but despite of AMD claiming to support Linux and stuff, it's always been worse than Intel and even Nvidia. | 19:46 |
| xu-irc67w | yeah i should have researched better before i bought this thing | 19:47 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | we can try to troubleshoot if you want. | 19:47 |
| xu-irc67w | i should have got an intel | 19:47 |
| xu-irc67w | please do, idk how much uptime i have before a crash but at least the username on the IRC is consistent | 19:47 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok run: inxi -Fxxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:48 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | share the url. | 19:48 |
| xu-irc67w | ok one sec | 19:48 |
| xu-irc67w | https://termbin.com/pad3 | 19:49 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | also: sudo dmesg | grep -i firmware | nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:49 |
| xu-irc67w | that's odd, no URL | 19:51 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok just run: dmesg | grep -i firmware | 19:51 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and see if you get anything | 19:51 |
| xu-irc67w | no result | 19:51 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and as i see, on top of your troubles it's a lenovo pc :/ | 19:52 |
| xu-irc67w | yes | 19:52 |
| xu-irc67w | i needed a basic linux laptop to use on the go | 19:52 |
| xu-irc67w | and putting xubuntu on a surface seemed like too much work | 19:52 |
| xu-irc67w | i WAS using an old samsung, but the power port failed so i had to replace it | 19:53 |
| xu-irc67w | it was too old to get parts | 19:53 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok you can try and hwe kernel. | 19:53 |
| xu-irc67w | hwe kernel? | 19:53 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | run: apt search linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:54 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | share the url. | 19:54 |
| xu-irc67w | https://termbin.com/aemk | 19:55 |
| xu-irc67w | i'm guessing the hardware is just too new | 19:56 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | as i see you got it installed: | 19:58 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04-edge/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 6.5.0.14.14~22.04.6 amd64 [installed,automatic] | 19:58 |
| xu-irc67w | so the kernel isn't the problem then | 19:58 |
| xu-irc67w | i must have forgotten i did that | 19:58 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | so i'd suggest you reboot and once you reach grub menu, hit advanced and pick and hwe kernel to boot. | 19:58 |
| xu-irc67w | ok i'll try that | 19:59 |
| xu-irc67w | is there a way to default to that one? | 19:59 |
| xu-irc67w | if it works that is | 19:59 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | if it works then of course. | 19:59 |
| xu-irc67w | ok i'll report back once i give it a try | 19:59 |
| xu-irc67w | i kind of don't know how to access the grub menu | 20:02 |
| xu-irc67w | on my desktop it displays a boot menu every time i turn it on | 20:02 |
| xu-irc67w | but it's a dual boot system | 20:02 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | there is no difference, where you choose your system to boot that is called the grub menu and there should be advanced boot options. | 20:03 |
| xu-irc67w | it just displays a few error messages and spits me out to the login sceen | 20:04 |
| xu-irc67w | this thing boots VERY fast | 20:04 |
| xu-irc67w | and doesn't display any other menu but the login screen on xubuntu | 20:04 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok then we can add a delay in grub menu. | 20:04 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | or maybe you could install grub-customizer. | 20:05 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | see if it's still available. | 20:05 |
| xu-irc67w | looking now | 20:05 |
| xu-irc67w | not seeing that in gnome software | 20:06 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | look in terminal: sudo apt install grub-customizer | 20:06 |
| xu-irc67w | unable to locate package | 20:07 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | then it's not there. | 20:07 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok let's add a longer timeout then. | 20:08 |
| xu-irc67w | looks like grub is controlled with a simple config | 20:08 |
| xu-irc67w | that is one nice thing about linux | 20:08 |
| xu-irc67w | so much controlled via raw text | 20:08 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:08 |
| xu-irc67w | https://termbin.com/yumo | 20:09 |
| xu-irc67w | it's such a tiny config too | 20:09 |
| xu-irc67w | timeout style is hidden and the timeout is set to zero | 20:10 |
| xu-irc67w | i'd imagine we just need to add an increment and set it to visible | 20:10 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | yep you need to comment out this line: GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden | 20:11 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and set this: GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 | 20:11 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | do you know how to do that? | 20:11 |
| xu-irc67w | ok i'll use mousepad as sudo for that | 20:11 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | no no | 20:12 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | don't use any graphical app with sudo | 20:12 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | this is how you are supposed to use it: | 20:12 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub | 20:13 |
| xu-irc67w | oh, well crap | 20:13 |
| xu-irc67w | this did almost the same thing | 20:13 |
| xu-irc67w | what is the difference? | 20:13 |
| xu-irc67w | i just typed sudo mousepad grub | 20:14 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | the difference is that when you run with sudo, it can overwrite some configs and then you can get crashes and you will never know why. | 20:14 |
| xu-irc67w | so the more dangerous option is the simpler option | 20:15 |
| xu-irc67w | that seems backwards | 20:15 |
| xu-irc67w | there is no way i'm going to be able to remember how to do it properly in the future btw | 20:16 |
| xu-irc67w | there is a reason i'm bad at the command line | 20:16 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | it's just a thing to remember to never run graphical applications with sudo. | 20:16 |
| xu-irc67w | anyway grub is updated | 20:16 |
| xu-irc67w | i'm going to reboot now and report back, which kernel do i load again? | 20:16 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | hwe | 20:17 |
| xu-irc67w | ok thank you | 20:19 |
| xu-irc67w | my memory is kind of poor sadly | 20:19 |
| xu-irc67w | hwe wasn't even listed | 20:20 |
| xu-irc67w | there was a 6.5 kernel and a 6.2 kernel along with recover modes for each | 20:20 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok you can try a ninja kernel if you wanna give it a shot. | 20:21 |
| xu-irc67w | what is a ninja kernel? | 20:23 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | https://xanmod.org/ | 20:23 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | this is a ninja kernel ^^ | 20:23 |
| xu-irc67w | so this shouldn't affect my themes at all, this is all under the hood | 20:24 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | of course it won't affect any of your user settings, | 20:24 |
| xu-irc67w | awesome | 20:24 |
| xu-irc67w | i've got this thing set up so nice you have no idea | 20:24 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | though my theory is that you crash whenever you do something GPU demanding. | 20:25 |
| xu-irc67w | chicago95 with marine classic theme and tons of vaporwave wallpapers | 20:25 |
| xu-irc67w | yeah gimp crashes it pretty reliably | 20:25 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | do always have a backup because data which isn't backedup is not an important data. | 20:25 |
| xu-irc67w | i haven't figured out backups yet... | 20:26 |
| xu-irc67w | the most precious files on this thing is my meme archive to be honest | 20:26 |
| xu-irc67w | about five gigs | 20:27 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | what is there to figure out? just copy your configs to an USB drive or to your google drive and you are fine. | 20:27 |
| xu-irc67w | oh i thought you meant like a full backup | 20:30 |
| xu-irc67w | which folders specifically should i back up? | 20:31 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | .config/xfce4 | 20:32 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and your theme if you did manual customization. | 20:32 |
| xu-irc67w | right, that folder should control all the changes chicago95 made to placement as well | 20:33 |
| xu-irc67w | ok all backed up | 20:45 |
| xu-irc67w | now how do i install the ninja kernel? | 20:45 |
| xu-irc67w | oh it's right there | 20:46 |
| xu-irc67w | on the front page | 20:46 |
| xu-irc67w | the new kernel greatly reduced the number of error messages displayed on boot | 20:51 |
| xu-irc67w | only the bluetooth is giving an error now | 20:51 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | see if you don't get crashes. | 20:52 |
| xu-irc67w | ok i'll just launch everything that i can think of that was causing the problem | 20:53 |
| xu-irc67w | on a different note, i'm still having mic quality issues even with the new kernel | 20:55 |
| xu-irc67w | it's still using generic drivers | 20:55 |
| xu-irc67w | but i have a usb sound card with an external mic so it isn't a huge deal right now | 20:55 |
| xu-irc67w | the amd errors are gone | 21:01 |
| xu-irc67w | good news, the crashes have stopped | 22:18 |
| xu-irc67w | i've got skype, discord, and firefox open all at the same time while editing a png in gimp | 22:19 |
| xu-irc67w | no crashes | 22:19 |
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