| guiverc | downloads does look good; but does the link https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/ work for everyone? Should I create a ~copy of that page on discourse & link there? (correcting the oudated nature of phab version; dev there is lunar with kinetic our latest..) | 07:34 |
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| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> Phab is still down —testing only link that does not work (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> downloads does look good; but does the link https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/ work for everyone? Should I create a ~copy of that page on discourse & link there? (correcting the oudated nature of phab version; dev there is lunar with kinetic our latest..)) | 08:07 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I was supposed to move it to git.lubuntu.me (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> downloads does look good; but does the link https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/ work for everyone? Should I create a ~copy of that page on discourse & link there? (correcting the oudated nature of phab version; dev there is lunar with kinetic our latest..)) | 10:14 |
| guiverc | Thanks @Leokolb, you've confirmed what I believed... phab is actually UP, but its not public (eg. that link works when I test it here, thus my language...) | 10:25 |
| guiverc | https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/qa-testing-information/4719 gives us a copy on discourse (I don't like title; but its 15+ characters as required; feel free to edit/change if you've better)... page could point there (releases updates; lunar/23.04 at end so as to be easier to remove (my reasoning anyway) | 10:35 |
| guiverc | (page is 99.5% what is on phab page; copy/pasted with release detail & last line only changed) | 10:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> We, not I, it's not all your fault ;) (re @kc2bez: I was supposed to move it to git.lubuntu.me) | 11:10 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/207bd934/file_10287.jpg | 11:10 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Thanks guiverc :) | 11:11 |
| guiverc | the downloads page will need to be altered to use that discourse page (if wanted) | 11:12 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> @teward001 at your convenience, you are the only person with the ability to edit the navbar :) I'm all for a replacement, but we should make what we already have works | 11:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Ack :) | 11:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> "Excluding one specific application, our stance is in favor of using Qt applications over Flutter applications." anyone notice the Flutter app I snuck on the ISO a month back? | 11:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> can I get access to this? (re @kc2bez: I was supposed to move it to git.lubuntu.me) | 11:28 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> like I had with phab | 11:28 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> @teward001 we don't need an LC vote or anything of the sort to add Rik, do we? Please do at your convenience ^^^^^^ (re @RikMills: can I get access to this?) | 11:29 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Same with @Eickmeyer while we're at it :) | 11:29 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> /me thwacks @teward001 for holding Godpowers by himself XD | 11:29 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I have them too. Let me see what I can do. | 11:30 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> You don't also happen to have them on WP do you? :) (re @kc2bez: I have them too. Let me see what I can do.) | 11:30 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> No, I just have regular WPadmin access. | 11:31 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> If it was a static site that wouldn't be an issue harharhar | 11:32 |
| RikMills | no hurry | 11:35 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> @Eickmeyer I know you are west coast, shoot me a PM when you are available and I will get you setup. | 11:47 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> working ok here. have updated calamares repor for recent uploads | 11:48 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> *repo | 11:48 |
| arraybolt3 | tsimonq2: How dare you put a Flutter app *in* Lubuntu! | 13:30 |
| arraybolt3 | ok so what was it, I missed it entirely :P | 13:30 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> It's the Firmware Updater app. We now have a native GUI for firmware updates. CC @lynorian | 13:32 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/2047023 | 13:32 |
| -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2047023 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Qt app crashed after upgrading Qt5 libraries to 5.15.10+dfsg-5build1 in noble-proposed" [Medium, Confirmed] | 13:32 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I personally don't want to touch firmware with a 10 foot pole so I'll let the Desktop Team take any associated heat there :P | 13:32 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I mean, unless someone knows of a way to safely simulate that... | 13:33 |
| arraybolt3 | Didn't know we had a firmware updater. Nifty. | 13:33 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I'd really like to say "no Flutter on Lubuntu period" but for that, I make an exception, and to be honest I think it's justifiable | 13:34 |
| arraybolt3 | I assume all it does would be call fwupd though, that's like *the* way to deliver firmware updates IIUC. Obviously I'd have to check the code to find out for sure, but I don't know Dart... | 13:34 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> With the amount of recent security updates going to firmware of all recent devices, I think it would be great to also hook this into the update notifier. Say "hey, by the way, you have firmware updates and here's a button to open the graphical firmware updater provided by Canonical" | 13:35 |
| arraybolt3 | btw Discover can *sorta* manage fwupd. Source - it's done or at least tried to do UEFI dbx updates before. | 13:35 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> That's... interesting. I wonder if we can disable that and the button for system settings... | 13:35 |
| arraybolt3 | dbx = the revocation list that says "Someone blew it when implementing Secure Boot, don't boot images with these hashes" | 13:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I say disable it so we force the user into one of two paths: expert mode or Canonical managed GUI mode | 13:36 |
| arraybolt3 | The system settings button should go away once we stop seeding Blue devil. | 13:36 |
| arraybolt3 | Thanks ChromeOS for autoincorrect | 13:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> We should be already? | 13:36 |
| arraybolt3 | Then it should be gone? | 13:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Use talk to Texans (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> Thanks ChromeOS for autoincorrect) | 13:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> XD | 13:37 |
| arraybolt3 | lol | 13:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> https://9to5linux.com/plymouth-linux-graphical-boot-manager-now-better-handles-display-rendering | 13:37 |
| arraybolt3 | cool | 13:38 |
| arraybolt3 | I can check on the system settings button once I start my day. | 13:38 |
| arraybolt3 | If it's still there I'm going to be a bit frustrated :P | 13:40 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Someone seeded aptitude 😉 so `aptitude why` might clue you in. | 13:40 |
| arraybolt3 | nice | 13:40 |
| * arraybolt3 ❤️ aptitude - very handy for debugging install filures | 13:41 | |
| arraybolt3 | *failures | 13:41 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Thanks @tsimonq2 | 13:41 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I'd like to think we're the best flavor in terms of a starter set of basic CLI applications ;) (re @kc2bez: Someone seeded aptitude 😉 so aptitude why might clue you in.) | 13:41 |
| arraybolt3 | We're the only ones to seed Vim, so we win automatically. | 13:42 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Absolutely | 13:42 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Vim (which I personally manage as a Core Dev in Ubuntu), htop, inxi, aptitude, tmux/byobu (which I think we should seed if we don't already) | 13:42 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I think it fits really well with our vision and purpose, tbh | 13:43 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> I seeded aptitude in kubuntu a while back, as I got fed up of having to install it with each new test VM | 13:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> Now I can add translations in Galician and Basque that were not allowed before!!!! | 14:01 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> \o/ | 14:01 |
| arraybolt3 | RikMills, tsimonq2: I could have sworn we had demoted kde-config-updates to a Suggests of plasma-discover? | 14:50 |
| arraybolt3 | It appears to still be a Recommends. | 14:51 |
| arraybolt3 | (in Noble anyway) | 14:51 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> maybe the suggests got lost in a merge | 14:51 |
| arraybolt3 | hmm | 14:51 |
| arraybolt3 | If you would be so kind as to demote it again, that would be fantastic - it appears to be the last thing between us and having KDE System Settings no longer in Lubuntu. | 14:51 |
| RikMills | arraybolt3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/5.27.10-1ubuntu2 | 14:58 |
| arraybolt3 | Thank you! | 14:58 |
| arraybolt3 | (While I'm here, I'm going to try to do a hopefully small bugfix - figure out why plasma-discover renders some icons black on Lubuntu when it doesn't on Kubuntu.) | 14:59 |
| RikMills | odd | 15:03 |
| arraybolt3 | yeah I don't know what to make of it. | 15:08 |
| arraybolt3 | Notice the KPatience and Yakuake logos here: https://i.imgur.com/bPBqbqZ.png | 15:09 |
| arraybolt3 | wait... lol I know what's going on here I bet | 15:10 |
| arraybolt3 | our icon theme (ePapirus) replaces a lot of default application icons. | 15:10 |
| arraybolt3 | And Qt glitches out on some SVGs that aren't "compliant". | 15:10 |
| arraybolt3 | So I bet these are just glitched SVGs. | 15:10 |
| arraybolt3 | hmm, no, they're rendering just fine elsewhere | 15:12 |
| arraybolt3 | but it definitely is the icon theme - if I change it to Oxygen, everything renders fine. | 15:13 |
| arraybolt3 | (and looks like it's from 2014) | 15:13 |
| * arraybolt3 goes and downloads a Kubuntu 24.04 ISO to see if I can reproduce this there | 15:15 | |
| arraybolt3 | or actually, better yet, Neon User edition | 15:16 |
| arraybolt3 | since I suspect this is an upstream Qt or KDE bug. | 15:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/0c8f86ff/file_10288.jpg | 15:39 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> kubuntu | 15:39 |
| arraybolt3 | right, because you're using the Breeze icon theme. | 15:41 |
| arraybolt3 | Try installing papirus and switch to that, you'll almost certainly see it happen. | 15:41 |
| arraybolt3 | slow internet is slow over here - still mid-downloading Neon | 15:42 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/33203da2/file_10289.jpg | 15:46 |
| RikMills | arraybolt3: ^^^^ seems ok with papirus | 15:46 |
| * RikMills hides | 15:46 | |
| arraybolt3 | grrr | 15:46 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> alright that's a mystery | 15:47 |
| RikMills | anything interesting in the terminal if you start discover via that? | 15:47 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> nope | 15:47 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> tried that | 15:47 |
| RikMills | :/ | 15:47 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> It looks *exactly* like an SVG render issue caused by something that isn't TinySVG compliant... but on your system it seems to work... you aren't on Plasma 6 Beta or something are you? | 15:48 |
| RikMills | no, that was in noble | 15:55 |
| arraybolt3 | sigh | 15:56 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> looks right on Neon too | 16:01 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Ok, all caught-up, @kc2bez got me set-up on g.l.m, we're good. (was confused due to lack of coffee, but Dan got me straightened out). | 16:42 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Any other emergencies I should be aware of? | 16:42 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I don't think so. | 16:43 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Sweet. The thing about exiting daylight saving time in Seattle back in November is we gained an extra hour of rain. | 16:44 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> LOL | 16:45 |
| arraybolt3 | Eickmeyer: You might need to seed kde-config-updates if you don't already. | 16:46 |
| arraybolt3 | Since RikMills just demoted it to a Suggests of plasma-discover for us. | 16:47 |
| * Eickmeyer looks | 16:47 | |
| * arraybolt3 thinks an extra hour of rain sounds awful | 16:47 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Northern hemisphere, so more rainshine minutes starting now. | 16:48 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, looking forward to the "long dark" as we call it starting to wane. | 16:49 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Seattle is further north than the northern border of Maine, and therefore, Toronto, Canada. | 16:50 |
| Eickmeyer | arraybolt3: Yep, seems we're already seeding that in Studio. | 16:52 |
| arraybolt3 | perfect | 16:52 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I'm north of Toronto but you have me bested too. (re @Eickmeyer: Seattle is further north than the northern border of Maine, and therefore, Toronto, Canada.) | 16:55 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> Iceland and daylight today her in Hafnarfjord 11:20 to 15:31 @kc2bez - so bested... (re @kc2bez: I'm north of Toronto but you have me bested too.) | 17:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Wait, you're a Canadian? (re @kc2bez: I'm north of Toronto but you have me bested too.) | 18:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Almost | 18:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Hahahaha :D me too, me too | 18:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Although, when I go up north by Noah in Grand Forks, that's *really* New Canada, hah | 18:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I am about 15 miles south of the border which is the St Lawrence River. | 18:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> I'm further north in the UK here than Seattle :P | 18:48 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Geography is fun | 18:49 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> Bet no one further south than @guiverc ? | 19:34 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> That is likely true. | 19:41 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> "Hi, I'm taking a trip to Antarctica" XD | 19:49 |
| lubot | [matrix] <roberalz> XD | 20:25 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> nav bar has nothing to do with elementor btw (re @tsimonq2: @teward001 at your convenience, you are the only person with the ability to edit the navbar :) I'm all for a replacement, but we should make what we already have works) | 21:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> so i'm not the only one you just lazy and dont search for the proper components | 21:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Oh I know that, it's just part of the admin interface that I currently don't have access to :) (re @teward001: nav bar has nothing to do with elementor btw) | 21:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I've searched every menu | 21:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> it's not there lol | 21:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> so if you find it and can give me access please tell me XD | 21:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> not for either of those we just have to register them. i'm not the only admin tho (re @tsimonq2: @teward001 we don't need an LC vote or anything of the sort to add Rik, do we? Please do at your convenience ^^^^^^) | 21:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> you're listed as site admin. that already gives access. :/ (re @tsimonq2: so if you find it and can give me access please tell me XD) | 21:15 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> i'll check but it IS a holiday errand day for me so lubuntu is secondary to holiday tasks | 21:15 |
| kc2bez | @tsimonq2 the sidebar in the Blog? | 21:49 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> no the navbar | 21:49 |
| kc2bez | Oh, at the top | 21:49 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> yes :) | 21:50 |
| kc2bez | Menus, in the appearance section. | 21:50 |
| kc2bez | Theme options might have some of what you want too. | 21:59 |
| tsimonq2 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-config/1.4.0-0ubuntu2 | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | I have no Appearance section. | 22:25 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/e9f53ae1/file_10290.jpg | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-session/1.4.0-0ubuntu2 | 22:47 |
| tsimonq2 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-panel/1.4.0-0ubuntu2 | 22:47 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-runner/commit/86887e7dd6639e10d039b560cbfbab2bcf72da92 | 22:47 |
| -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit 86887e7 in lxqt/lxqt-runner "Hide window on deactivation under Wayland (#273)" | 22:47 | |
| guiverc | https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ has been modified to point to https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/qa-testing-information/4719 instead of phab link | 23:35 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> I am going to make that page a wiki page on Discourse ^ | 23:37 |
| guiverc | thanks kc2bez , wish I'd thought of that (alas forgot) | 23:37 |
| lubot | [matrix] <kc2bez> No problem, 'tis fixed up. | 23:38 |
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