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xu-irc67wok i tested the mic on discord and it sounds much better00:01
diogenes_Vx15ok then my work for today is done.00:02
* diogenes_Vx15 goes offline.00:02
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xubuntu80dHello, I installed xubuntu 22.04. on my older notebook (NO UEFI-BIOS) without any problems. With every start I get normal message from BIOS, afterwards black screen. No I have to press SHIFT for 5 second and Xubuntu will start without any problem. WHY DO I HAVE TO PRESS SHIFT FOR 5 SECOND ???09:59
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, who told you that you have to press Shift for 5 seconds? That looks like voodoo magic to me.10:01
xubuntu80dNobody told, I found it out by myself. Otherwise xubuntu will NOT start...10:03
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, so after  the BIOS logo do you get any grub messages anything?10:05
xubuntu80dno message at all....10:05
xubuntu80dxubuntu is the only OS, no Dual-boot. Installed on SSD...10:08
xubuntu80dafter pressing SHIFT for 5 second, booting continues. The first short message then is "/dev/sda3: clean, 225199/7700480 files,......", then xubuntu starts without any error-messages.10:11
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, ok we can try and troubleshoot that.10:17
xubuntu80dthanks10:17
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999910:21
diogenes_Vx15share the url you get in terminal.10:21
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/t6ulh10:22
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub10:27
diogenes_Vx15sorry i'm multitasking so it takes some time getting back to you.10:27
xubuntu80dthats ok, thanks10:28
diogenes_Vx15in the opened file look for this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"10:28
diogenes_Vx15make it read like this:10:28
diogenes_Vx15GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="fsck.mode=skip"10:28
xubuntu80dI edit the file as proposed and started the system new. I got a long list of messages until output stopped after a while. after pressing enter it continues and xubuntu starts...10:37
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, wait i was waiting for an answer from you that you done, i didn't say it was all.10:38
xubuntu80doh, sorry...10:39
diogenes_Vx15run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999910:39
diogenes_Vx15share the url.10:39
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/hi1f10:40
diogenes_Vx15run: sudo update-grub10:41
xubuntu80ddone10:41
diogenes_Vx15ok now reboot and you will see a lot of text showing, when it gets stuck, tacke a picture so it's clearly seen the last few lines at the bottom where it gets stuck and upload to imgur.com10:43
diogenes_Vx15take*10:43
xubuntu80dok10:44
xubuntu80dpicture is made. do i have to login to imgur.com ???11:02
diogenes_Vx15no, just upload it there and share the url.11:02
xubuntu80dhttps://imgur.com/a/uvOVz111:04
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, that url doesn't work.11:05
xubuntu80dI try again...11:05
diogenes_Vx15but after you try then open it first yourself and it if works for you then it works for everyone.11:06
xubuntu80dhttps://imgur.com/a/T2vWjuh11:16
xubuntu80dsorry for waiting...11:16
diogenes_Vx15so that's where it gets stuck and you have to do what for it to boot?11:17
xubuntu80din this case I just press shift (maybe any other key would do, I didnt try...)11:18
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, ok let's see your full system specs run: inxi -Fxxc0 | nc termbin.com 999911:26
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/zekl11:28
diogenes_Vx15oh wow it11:31
diogenes_Vx15it's a machine from 2009.11:32
xubuntu80dyes, but still working quite fast with xubuntu....11:32
diogenes_Vx15ok run:11:33
diogenes_Vx15pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub11:33
diogenes_Vx15to this line:11:33
diogenes_Vx15GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="fsck.mode=skip11:34
diogenes_Vx15add:11:34
diogenes_Vx15GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tpm_tis.interrupts=0 fsck.mode=skip11:34
xubuntu80dok, done11:36
diogenes_Vx15save, close, run: sudo update-grub11:36
diogenes_Vx15after done run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999911:36
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/kq4o11:37
diogenes_Vx15ok reboot and let's see what happens.11:38
xubuntu80dyes, thanks...11:39
xubuntu80dget stuck at same position than before, to bad11:41
xubuntu80dsorry that you have to spent so much time for this case. Its an old machine and perhaps I should try new installation with other SSD in the notebook. Xubuntu would be great for this machine, but maybe HW is too old....11:46
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, run: sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 999911:46
diogenes_Vx15everything is ok, we will try to do what we can.11:47
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/z33211:48
diogenes_Vx15xubuntu80d, run: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows12:03
diogenes_Vx15and just tell me which window version is the highest you see.12:03
xubuntu80dcommand is not found....12:06
diogenes_Vx15sudo apt install binutils12:08
xubuntu80dok, done12:08
diogenes_Vx15 sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows12:09
xubuntu80dWindows 200612:10
diogenes_Vx15pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub12:11
diogenes_Vx15GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tsc=unstable trace_clock=local fsck.mode=skip"12:12
diogenes_Vx15and not only that, don't close the file yet.12:12
diogenes_Vx15this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""12:14
diogenes_Vx15change to:12:14
diogenes_Vx15GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\""12:14
diogenes_Vx15save, close, run: sudo update-grub12:15
diogenes_Vx15after that: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999912:15
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/ogek12:21
diogenes_Vx15here is a little error: acpi_osi=!acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\"12:22
diogenes_Vx15separate with space: acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\"12:22
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/4ym212:25
xubuntu80dthanks, good eyes !!12:25
diogenes_Vx15sudo update-grub12:25
diogenes_Vx15after that figers crossed and reboot.12:26
xubuntu80dok, I will be back...12:26
xubuntu80dGREAT !!! I still get a bunch of messages during boot but the first time xubuntu ist starting without any action by myself !12:29
diogenes_Vx15ok then the only thing that left is to get rid of the messages.12:29
diogenes_Vx15pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub12:30
diogenes_Vx15GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tsc=unstable trace_clock=local fsck.mode=skip quiet splash"12:30
diogenes_Vx15after that: sudo update-grub12:31
diogenes_Vx15after that: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999912:31
xubuntu80dhttps://termbin.com/ruvx12:33
diogenes_Vx15fingers crossed, reboot.12:34
xubuntu80dGREAT JOB !!!! Boot without any messages and without problem ! This was really very great help - thank you so much !!!!!!!12:37
diogenes_Vx15glad it worked, enjoy your Linux journey!12:38
xubuntu80dthanks again for help and have happy holidays -. THANKS !!!12:38
diogenes_Vx15thank you, happy holidays!12:39
xu-irc67wi kind of woke up this morning to at least 12 bluetooth errors13:23
xu-irc67wand the system log shows even more13:23
torvdiogenes_Vx15: What does the seperate `acpi_osi=!` serve for?14:01
diogenes_Vx15torv, it disables the default one.14:02
torvdiogenes_Vx15: Doesn't the second override that too?14:03
torv* second one14:03
diogenes_Vx15torv, it's recomenned to explicitly disable it to exclude any race condition.14:03
diogenes_Vx15recomended*14:03
torvdiogenes_Vx15: I see. Seems a "forget any" (blank slate) then "now state this".14:07
diogenes_Vx15yep14:08
torvdiogenes_Vx15: Aha, found the doc: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt14:09
torvdiogenes_Vx15: Thank you very much. Happy holidays!14:10
diogenes_Vx15torv, thank you, Happy Holidays!14:10
tomreyndiogenes_Vx15: on gnome-shell / with gedit you can use    gedit admin:///etc/default/grub   to open the file with elevated permissions (via pkexec) - maybe you're already familiar with it, so i'm just pointing this out in case it also works on xfce (not sure).14:34
tomreyn(but you'd possibly still want to provide the DISPLAY and maybe even XAUTHORITY, i guess)14:36
diogenes_Vx15tomreyn, yeah i know that with gedit you can do that, last time i tried with mousepad i didn't get much luck, i haven't tried it recently though.14:36
tomreynah, a pity14:36
ramboHello peeps!18:08
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