[00:01] ok i tested the mic on discord and it sounds much better [00:02] ok then my work for today is done. [00:02] * diogenes_Vx15 goes offline. === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc === tomg_ is now known as tomg [09:59] Hello, I installed xubuntu 22.04. on my older notebook (NO UEFI-BIOS) without any problems. With every start I get normal message from BIOS, afterwards black screen. No I have to press SHIFT for 5 second and Xubuntu will start without any problem. WHY DO I HAVE TO PRESS SHIFT FOR 5 SECOND ??? [10:01] xubuntu80d, who told you that you have to press Shift for 5 seconds? That looks like voodoo magic to me. [10:03] Nobody told, I found it out by myself. Otherwise xubuntu will NOT start... [10:05] xubuntu80d, so after the BIOS logo do you get any grub messages anything? [10:05] no message at all.... [10:08] xubuntu is the only OS, no Dual-boot. Installed on SSD... [10:11] after pressing SHIFT for 5 second, booting continues. The first short message then is "/dev/sda3: clean, 225199/7700480 files,......", then xubuntu starts without any error-messages. [10:17] xubuntu80d, ok we can try and troubleshoot that. [10:17] thanks [10:21] xubuntu80d, run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:21] share the url you get in terminal. [10:22] https://termbin.com/t6ulh [10:27] xubuntu80d, pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub [10:27] sorry i'm multitasking so it takes some time getting back to you. [10:28] thats ok, thanks [10:28] in the opened file look for this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" [10:28] make it read like this: [10:28] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="fsck.mode=skip" [10:37] I edit the file as proposed and started the system new. I got a long list of messages until output stopped after a while. after pressing enter it continues and xubuntu starts... [10:38] xubuntu80d, wait i was waiting for an answer from you that you done, i didn't say it was all. [10:39] oh, sorry... [10:39] run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:39] share the url. [10:40] https://termbin.com/hi1f [10:41] run: sudo update-grub [10:41] done [10:43] ok now reboot and you will see a lot of text showing, when it gets stuck, tacke a picture so it's clearly seen the last few lines at the bottom where it gets stuck and upload to imgur.com [10:43] take* [10:44] ok [11:02] picture is made. do i have to login to imgur.com ??? [11:02] no, just upload it there and share the url. [11:04] https://imgur.com/a/uvOVz1 [11:05] xubuntu80d, that url doesn't work. [11:05] I try again... [11:06] but after you try then open it first yourself and it if works for you then it works for everyone. [11:16] https://imgur.com/a/T2vWjuh [11:16] sorry for waiting... [11:17] so that's where it gets stuck and you have to do what for it to boot? [11:18] in this case I just press shift (maybe any other key would do, I didnt try...) [11:26] xubuntu80d, ok let's see your full system specs run: inxi -Fxxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:28] https://termbin.com/zekl [11:31] oh wow it [11:32] it's a machine from 2009. [11:32] yes, but still working quite fast with xubuntu.... [11:33] ok run: [11:33] pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub [11:33] to this line: [11:34] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="fsck.mode=skip [11:34] add: [11:34] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tpm_tis.interrupts=0 fsck.mode=skip [11:36] ok, done [11:36] save, close, run: sudo update-grub [11:36] after done run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:37] https://termbin.com/kq4o [11:38] ok reboot and let's see what happens. [11:39] yes, thanks... [11:41] get stuck at same position than before, to bad [11:46] sorry that you have to spent so much time for this case. Its an old machine and perhaps I should try new installation with other SSD in the notebook. Xubuntu would be great for this machine, but maybe HW is too old.... [11:46] xubuntu80d, run: sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:47] everything is ok, we will try to do what we can. [11:48] https://termbin.com/z332 [12:03] xubuntu80d, run: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows [12:03] and just tell me which window version is the highest you see. [12:06] command is not found.... [12:08] sudo apt install binutils [12:08] ok, done [12:09] sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows [12:10] Windows 2006 [12:11] pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub [12:12] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tsc=unstable trace_clock=local fsck.mode=skip" [12:12] and not only that, don't close the file yet. [12:14] this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" [12:14] change to: [12:14] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\"" [12:15] save, close, run: sudo update-grub [12:15] after that: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:21] https://termbin.com/ogek [12:22] here is a little error: acpi_osi=!acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\" [12:22] separate with space: acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\" [12:25] https://termbin.com/4ym2 [12:25] thanks, good eyes !! [12:25] sudo update-grub [12:26] after that figers crossed and reboot. [12:26] ok, I will be back... [12:29] GREAT !!! I still get a bunch of messages during boot but the first time xubuntu ist starting without any action by myself ! [12:29] ok then the only thing that left is to get rid of the messages. [12:30] pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub [12:30] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tsc=unstable trace_clock=local fsck.mode=skip quiet splash" [12:31] after that: sudo update-grub [12:31] after that: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:33] https://termbin.com/ruvx [12:34] fingers crossed, reboot. [12:37] GREAT JOB !!!! Boot without any messages and without problem ! This was really very great help - thank you so much !!!!!!! [12:38] glad it worked, enjoy your Linux journey! [12:38] thanks again for help and have happy holidays -. THANKS !!! [12:39] thank you, happy holidays! [13:23] i kind of woke up this morning to at least 12 bluetooth errors [13:23] and the system log shows even more [14:01] diogenes_Vx15: What does the seperate `acpi_osi=!` serve for? [14:02] torv, it disables the default one. [14:03] diogenes_Vx15: Doesn't the second override that too? [14:03] * second one [14:03] torv, it's recomenned to explicitly disable it to exclude any race condition. [14:03] recomended* [14:07] diogenes_Vx15: I see. Seems a "forget any" (blank slate) then "now state this". [14:08] yep [14:09] diogenes_Vx15: Aha, found the doc: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt [14:10] diogenes_Vx15: Thank you very much. Happy holidays! [14:10] torv, thank you, Happy Holidays! [14:34] diogenes_Vx15: on gnome-shell / with gedit you can use gedit admin:///etc/default/grub to open the file with elevated permissions (via pkexec) - maybe you're already familiar with it, so i'm just pointing this out in case it also works on xfce (not sure). [14:36] (but you'd possibly still want to provide the DISPLAY and maybe even XAUTHORITY, i guess) [14:36] tomreyn, yeah i know that with gedit you can do that, last time i tried with mousepad i didn't get much luck, i haven't tried it recently though. [14:36] ah, a pity [18:08] Hello peeps! === rud0lf is now known as xmas-rednosed === doc|home is now known as doc === keypushe- is now known as keypusher === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc