[00:01] <xu-irc67w> ok i tested the mic on discord and it sounds much better
[00:02] <diogenes_Vx15> ok then my work for today is done.
[00:02]  * diogenes_Vx15 goes offline.
[09:59] <xubuntu80d> Hello, I installed xubuntu 22.04. on my older notebook (NO UEFI-BIOS) without any problems. With every start I get normal message from BIOS, afterwards black screen. No I have to press SHIFT for 5 second and Xubuntu will start without any problem. WHY DO I HAVE TO PRESS SHIFT FOR 5 SECOND ???
[10:01] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, who told you that you have to press Shift for 5 seconds? That looks like voodoo magic to me.
[10:03] <xubuntu80d> Nobody told, I found it out by myself. Otherwise xubuntu will NOT start...
[10:05] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, so after  the BIOS logo do you get any grub messages anything?
[10:05] <xubuntu80d> no message at all....
[10:08] <xubuntu80d> xubuntu is the only OS, no Dual-boot. Installed on SSD...
[10:11] <xubuntu80d> after pressing SHIFT for 5 second, booting continues. The first short message then is "/dev/sda3: clean, 225199/7700480 files,......", then xubuntu starts without any error-messages.
[10:17] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, ok we can try and troubleshoot that.
[10:17] <xubuntu80d> thanks
[10:21] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:21] <diogenes_Vx15> share the url you get in terminal.
[10:22] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/t6ulh
[10:27] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub
[10:27] <diogenes_Vx15> sorry i'm multitasking so it takes some time getting back to you.
[10:28] <xubuntu80d> thats ok, thanks
[10:28] <diogenes_Vx15> in the opened file look for this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[10:28] <diogenes_Vx15> make it read like this:
[10:28] <diogenes_Vx15> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="fsck.mode=skip"
[10:37] <xubuntu80d> I edit the file as proposed and started the system new. I got a long list of messages until output stopped after a while. after pressing enter it continues and xubuntu starts...
[10:38] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, wait i was waiting for an answer from you that you done, i didn't say it was all.
[10:39] <xubuntu80d> oh, sorry...
[10:39] <diogenes_Vx15> run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:39] <diogenes_Vx15> share the url.
[10:40] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/hi1f
[10:41] <diogenes_Vx15> run: sudo update-grub
[10:41] <xubuntu80d> done
[10:43] <diogenes_Vx15> ok now reboot and you will see a lot of text showing, when it gets stuck, tacke a picture so it's clearly seen the last few lines at the bottom where it gets stuck and upload to imgur.com
[10:43] <diogenes_Vx15> take*
[10:44] <xubuntu80d> ok
[11:02] <xubuntu80d> picture is made. do i have to login to imgur.com ???
[11:02] <diogenes_Vx15> no, just upload it there and share the url.
[11:04] <xubuntu80d> https://imgur.com/a/uvOVz1
[11:05] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, that url doesn't work.
[11:05] <xubuntu80d> I try again...
[11:06] <diogenes_Vx15> but after you try then open it first yourself and it if works for you then it works for everyone.
[11:16] <xubuntu80d> https://imgur.com/a/T2vWjuh
[11:16] <xubuntu80d> sorry for waiting...
[11:17] <diogenes_Vx15> so that's where it gets stuck and you have to do what for it to boot?
[11:18] <xubuntu80d> in this case I just press shift (maybe any other key would do, I didnt try...)
[11:26] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, ok let's see your full system specs run: inxi -Fxxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:28] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/zekl
[11:31] <diogenes_Vx15> oh wow it
[11:32] <diogenes_Vx15> it's a machine from 2009.
[11:32] <xubuntu80d> yes, but still working quite fast with xubuntu....
[11:33] <diogenes_Vx15> ok run:
[11:33] <diogenes_Vx15> pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub
[11:33] <diogenes_Vx15> to this line:
[11:34] <diogenes_Vx15> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="fsck.mode=skip
[11:34] <diogenes_Vx15> add:
[11:34] <diogenes_Vx15> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tpm_tis.interrupts=0 fsck.mode=skip
[11:36] <xubuntu80d> ok, done
[11:36] <diogenes_Vx15> save, close, run: sudo update-grub
[11:36] <diogenes_Vx15> after done run: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:37] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/kq4o
[11:38] <diogenes_Vx15> ok reboot and let's see what happens.
[11:39] <xubuntu80d> yes, thanks...
[11:41] <xubuntu80d> get stuck at same position than before, to bad
[11:46] <xubuntu80d> sorry that you have to spent so much time for this case. Its an old machine and perhaps I should try new installation with other SSD in the notebook. Xubuntu would be great for this machine, but maybe HW is too old....
[11:46] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, run: sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:47] <diogenes_Vx15> everything is ok, we will try to do what we can.
[11:48] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/z332
[12:03] <diogenes_Vx15> xubuntu80d, run: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
[12:03] <diogenes_Vx15> and just tell me which window version is the highest you see.
[12:06] <xubuntu80d> command is not found....
[12:08] <diogenes_Vx15> sudo apt install binutils
[12:08] <xubuntu80d> ok, done
[12:09] <diogenes_Vx15>  sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
[12:10] <xubuntu80d> Windows 2006
[12:11] <diogenes_Vx15> pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub
[12:12] <diogenes_Vx15> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tsc=unstable trace_clock=local fsck.mode=skip"
[12:12] <diogenes_Vx15> and not only that, don't close the file yet.
[12:14] <diogenes_Vx15> this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[12:14] <diogenes_Vx15> change to:
[12:14] <diogenes_Vx15> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\""
[12:15] <diogenes_Vx15> save, close, run: sudo update-grub
[12:15] <diogenes_Vx15> after that: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:21] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/ogek
[12:22] <diogenes_Vx15> here is a little error: acpi_osi=!acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\"
[12:22] <diogenes_Vx15> separate with space: acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\"
[12:25] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/4ym2
[12:25] <xubuntu80d> thanks, good eyes !!
[12:25] <diogenes_Vx15> sudo update-grub
[12:26] <diogenes_Vx15> after that figers crossed and reboot.
[12:26] <xubuntu80d> ok, I will be back...
[12:29] <xubuntu80d> GREAT !!! I still get a bunch of messages during boot but the first time xubuntu ist starting without any action by myself !
[12:29] <diogenes_Vx15> ok then the only thing that left is to get rid of the messages.
[12:30] <diogenes_Vx15> pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/default/grub
[12:30] <diogenes_Vx15> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="tsc=unstable trace_clock=local fsck.mode=skip quiet splash"
[12:31] <diogenes_Vx15> after that: sudo update-grub
[12:31] <diogenes_Vx15> after that: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:33] <xubuntu80d> https://termbin.com/ruvx
[12:34] <diogenes_Vx15> fingers crossed, reboot.
[12:37] <xubuntu80d> GREAT JOB !!!! Boot without any messages and without problem ! This was really very great help - thank you so much !!!!!!!
[12:38] <diogenes_Vx15> glad it worked, enjoy your Linux journey!
[12:38] <xubuntu80d> thanks again for help and have happy holidays -. THANKS !!!
[12:39] <diogenes_Vx15> thank you, happy holidays!
[13:23] <xu-irc67w> i kind of woke up this morning to at least 12 bluetooth errors
[13:23] <xu-irc67w> and the system log shows even more
[14:01] <torv> diogenes_Vx15: What does the seperate `acpi_osi=!` serve for?
[14:02] <diogenes_Vx15> torv, it disables the default one.
[14:03] <torv> diogenes_Vx15: Doesn't the second override that too?
[14:03] <torv> * second one
[14:03] <diogenes_Vx15> torv, it's recomenned to explicitly disable it to exclude any race condition.
[14:03] <diogenes_Vx15> recomended*
[14:07] <torv> diogenes_Vx15: I see. Seems a "forget any" (blank slate) then "now state this".
[14:08] <diogenes_Vx15> yep
[14:09] <torv> diogenes_Vx15: Aha, found the doc: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
[14:10] <torv> diogenes_Vx15: Thank you very much. Happy holidays!
[14:10] <diogenes_Vx15> torv, thank you, Happy Holidays!
[14:34] <tomreyn> diogenes_Vx15: on gnome-shell / with gedit you can use    gedit admin:///etc/default/grub   to open the file with elevated permissions (via pkexec) - maybe you're already familiar with it, so i'm just pointing this out in case it also works on xfce (not sure).
[14:36] <tomreyn> (but you'd possibly still want to provide the DISPLAY and maybe even XAUTHORITY, i guess)
[14:36] <diogenes_Vx15> tomreyn, yeah i know that with gedit you can do that, last time i tried with mousepad i didn't get much luck, i haven't tried it recently though.
[14:36] <tomreyn> ah, a pity
[18:08] <rambo> Hello peeps!