[07:03] <Scary_Guy> So, I've got NUT running on my system.  How the hell am I supposed to get upower to read it though?
[07:04] <Scary_Guy> I mean I've got nut-monitor running but it's ugly as hell.  If I could just get an icon in my statusbar I would be so happy.
[21:12] <jrwren> ok, rpi5 is pretty awesome. darned fast. nice upgrade.
[21:53] <Mooncairn> OMG Win 10 is such a horrifying nightmare.
[21:53] <Mooncairn> Actually, s/10//
[21:55] <Mooncairn> I really don't know how people put up with it.
[21:59] <Mooncairn> On a somewhat related topic: Can a semi-usable Ubuntu installation be had in only 20G of disk space (because that's all of the space I can recover by shrinking Win's partition)?
[22:05] <llua> i haven't used ubuntu in over a decade, but an ubuntu desktop install is >20G?
[22:06] <Mooncairn> That's what I'm wondering. I've done a Debian install in a 20GB VM before, and the base install plus KDE was around 9GB. User files quickly exhausted the remaining space.
[22:16] <jrwren> I'd say yes, but with ubuntu putting so many things in snaps, the answer is probably no.
[22:16] <jrwren> debian bookworm is pretty nice these days. or anything that isn't ubuntu w/ snaps
[22:16] <jrwren> it really depends on what you are going to use it for.
[22:17] <jrwren> its pretty easy to slim down a linux distro. Not using open office? remove it. not printing, remove all of cups. etc etc
[22:17] <jrwren> `du -hx / | sort -hr | less` is your friend.
[22:18] <Mooncairn> This is for my mom's computer. She's having no end of problems but won't abandon Windows.
[22:19] <Mooncairn> I'd wanted to shrink the Windows partition (assuming I'd have gotten more than 20GB in the process) and install Ubuntu or Debian as a trail balloon.
[22:19] <jrwren> good luck.
[22:20] <Mooncairn> s/trail/trial
[22:20] <jrwren> I told my mom, "sorry mom, I don't know Windows these days. Maybe ask a friend"
[22:20] <Mooncairn> I've told my mom that, too, but she won't listen.
[22:21] <jrwren> 🤐