[03:54] <fdan27> hi, i wanted to ensure that the log files gets written to a different location so i added StandardOutput and StandardError https://dpaste.org/H9vZA
[03:54] <fdan27> but still i dont get to see logs being written to new location
[05:19] <BlackNoir> Hi guys. What should I if I tried to check the ip 192.168.1.1 for my localhost but unreachable. I want to know my router settings but it doesn't show any just unreachable.
[05:20] <rbox> BlackNoir: what?
[05:20] <BlackNoir> I'm trying to access my router settings
[05:20] <rbox> what is your ip
[05:20] <BlackNoir> 192.168.1.1 should be the default, right?
[05:21] <rbox> how should anyone here know what your routers ip is
[05:21] <BlackNoir> How to know my ip through terminal?
[05:21] <rbox> ip a
[05:23] <Bashing-om> BlackNoir: Might try that as generally 192.168.0.1 .
[05:24] <BlackNoir> tried
[05:25] <BlackNoir> not works
[09:56] <Guest43> Big fucking test. Hitler
[09:57] <Guest43> Joey, i need to get some work.
[09:57] <Guest43> I gotta work
[09:57] <Guest43> Joey. I need to ride
[09:57] <Guest43> JOEEEEY
[09:57] <Guest43> hitler
[11:27] <Guest15> hi
[11:47] <merlin80> Hello
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:56] <Guest23> hello
[15:58] <Guest23> what it means "search openstacklocal"? i found it in my /etc/resolv.conf
[15:58] <Guest23> should i remove it or?
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> Guest23: no, leave it alone
[16:08] <pragmaticenigma> Guest23: at the top of that file... what does it say?
[16:08] <amazoniantoad> I have created an lxc container but I get an error, "temporary failure in domain name resolution"
[16:08] <amazoniantoad> Can someone help me get networking properly working?
[16:09] <Guest23> pragmaticenigma: https://ibb.co/0cDqVdX
[16:10] <amazoniantoad> D:
[16:10] <amazoniantoad> I love lxc but this thing just won't  work properly on this computer
[16:11] <Jantz> Hello how's it going everyone? Is Ubuntu open source still? Do yous know?
[16:12] <amazoniantoad> Jantz: I think it is. At least from the last time I paid.
[16:15] <Jantz> Sup creechy, yeah amazoniantoad I remember a couple o years ago they brought them into paid laptops did they do the same for desktops? must of yeah? All sorted now? Security Issues when I tested but they must be well into tonnes of companies now aye? Think was three or four years ago now???
[16:15] <amazoniantoad> Jantz: Do you watch a lot of clockwork orange?
[16:16] <Jantz> Anyone know the amount of coders needed to maintain the OS?
[16:16] <Jantz> amazoniantoad: not quite following you, can you rephrase?
[16:17] <amazoniantoad> Jantz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T54uZPI4Z8A
[16:17] <Jantz> nah dont want to watch
[16:17] <amazoniantoad> Why not? D:
[16:18] <amazoniantoad> You remind me of it.
[16:18] <amazoniantoad> Lol
[16:18] <Jantz> because your probably just extracting judgement for your guys gains
[16:18] <amazoniantoad> Jantz: Why would I do that? That's rude.
[16:18] <Jantz> and I asked a good question for the channel and you're like what the??
[16:18] <amazoniantoad> Nah
[16:18] <amazoniantoad> Never
[16:20] <Jantz> sorry does your vid explain the answer>?
[16:20] <amazoniantoad> Jantz: Only if you drink milk :O
[16:20] <Jantz> sick of videos and glorious sets want simple ascii now haha
[16:21] <Jantz> alphabet sorry
[16:21] <amazoniantoad> I made ansi fractals in terminal. It's fun.
[16:21] <Jantz> you on Ubuntu? latest?
[16:21] <amazoniantoad> I threw in ascii as well
[16:21] <Jantz> Security Enhanced Ubuntu?
[16:22] <amazoniantoad> I made my own security system :D
[16:22] <Jantz> I'm thinking of making a Quad boot with the main four but I dunno
[16:22] <amazoniantoad> You should just use containers
[16:22] <Jantz> yeah I'm getting around to it too pretty huge project well you know
[16:22] <amazoniantoad> Hm. The only benefit virtualization has is kernel containment, I think?
[16:23] <amazoniantoad> Jantz: Like bantz?
[16:25] <Jantz> Jantzen like the swimming clothes brand company
[16:25] <Jantz> yeah
[16:25] <amazoniantoad> Oh-la-la
[16:25] <Jantz> when you talk virtualization are you talking like Hyper-V?
[16:25] <amazoniantoad> Yes
[16:26] <Jantz> yeah I think it was Oracle with Virtual Box yeah?
[16:26] <amazoniantoad> Gross
[16:26] <amazoniantoad> Too heavy duty
[16:27] <amazoniantoad> You need seemless integration
[16:27] <Jantz> seemless integration??
[16:27] <amazoniantoad> Make your own hypervisor instead. I chose D.
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> Jantz and amazoniantoad - Please stay on topic, if you want to discuss the merits of virtualization versus containerization please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:28] <amazoniantoad> Jantz: I would like to see you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:29] <Jantz> no worries cool as I'll be there, weren't that far off topic were we?
[18:02] <vfbsilva> peiple I have an ubuntu entry on uefi I simply can manage to remove: https://pastebin.com/8MxPwaMd can you give me a help
[18:03] <amazoniantoad> Lol
[18:04] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: the last two lines look like you did remove it
[18:04] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: that is why Iḿ here cause it rreappears upon reboot
[18:05] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: what do you boot then?
[18:07] <amazoniantoad> hai
[18:07] <Ecko> hai
[18:07] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: I have also a manjaro and a windows uefi entry I made a new post I think it got better organizer: https://pastebin.com/BDGfk7WF
[18:12] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: so what's reappearing, the efi boot manager "ubuntu" record, or the "ubuntu" directory on the ESP?
[18:12] <tomreyn> maybe your bios is set to protect the ESP against modifications?
[18:13] <tomreyn> i know some HP models have an option for that
[18:13] <tomreyn> (and maybe others)
[18:14] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: ubuntu directory on esp
[18:16] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: reruning grub also seems to trigger the ubuntu record on the efi boot manager
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> vfbsilva: is Ubuntu still installed on that machine?
[18:18] <vfbsilva> pragmaticenigma: no
[18:18] <vfbsilva> pragmaticenigma: I have other linuxes installed thou
[18:19] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: well if you run grub-install from some linux which thinks / claims it is ubuntu (could be a derivative, too) you would get the "ubuntu" record re-written to esp
[18:27] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: I have only 2 manjaro installs
[18:29] <luca_> irc://irc.williamgattone.it/drakon
[18:31] <tomreyn> vfbsilva: then my guess would be with the bios 'safeguarding' the esp (and efi boot menu)
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> vfbsilva: you may need to go into the BIOS/UEFI setup of your machine and remove them there. how to do that is going to be specific to the manufacturer of the computer/motherboard
[18:37] <vfbsilva> pragmaticenigma: im going to the asus board and ask about it thanks
[18:43] <vfbsilva> tomreyn: thanks a lot for the help
[18:46] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[19:16] <enigma9o7> Hello ubuntu gurus!  Is there a way I can speed up my mouse from command line?
[19:17] <enigma9o7> (Sometimes, like now, when I boot a virtual machine, it messes up my mouse speed in ubuntu host....)
[19:17] <enigma9o7> Not talking about acceleration, just normal speed.   In the state I'm in I have to pick up the mouse a few times just to get from one side of the screen to the other.
[19:18] <enigma9o7> Maybe with xinput somehow?   I already use `xinput --disable 13` to turn off the trackpad when VMs reenable it....
[19:18] <enigma9o7> but this speed thing is a new problem, but keeps happening
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> enigma9o7: what you just described as "picking up the mouse a few times to get from one side to the other" is exactly what acceleration is designed to fix. So you have a chance at precision when you need it, and acceleration to get to the other side when you don't
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> enigma9o7: what I suspect is the problem has nothing to do with the mouse at all. But all the frame buffering between the VM, and the host machine. What resolution are you running these VMs at?
[19:21] <pragmaticenigma> *screen resolution
[19:22] <ramblebamble> enigma9o7, not a software solution but a hardware one, look at a mouse that allows you to alter the acceleration on the mouse itself.
[19:23] <enigma9o7> All I gotta do to fix it is reboot.
[19:23] <enigma9o7> And I'm not talking about acceleration, I'm talking about normal speed.
[19:24] <enigma9o7> I can shut down the VM and the problem remains until I reboot.
[19:24] <enigma9o7> Its somethiing to do with when the VM doing some weird hardware detection or something.  Same reason it reeanbles my touchpad, but I know how to disable that again.
[19:24] <enigma9o7> Just looking for command to set the speed back to normal.
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> enigma9o7: can you answer my question
[19:24] <enigma9o7> Can you answer mine?
[19:24] <tomreyn> have you considered reporting this as a bug to whoever makes the virtualization you're using?
[19:25] <enigma9o7> No, I haven't.
[19:25] <enigma9o7> I just wanna know how to workaround it, how to set my mouse speed.
[19:25] <enigma9o7> Doesnt matter what caused it.
[19:25] <tomreyn> i see. good luck.
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> enigma9o7: If you are running your host machine at 4k, and then setup the VM to run at the same rolution, it becomes a resource issue. Which is resolved when you reboot the machine. That's why I'm asking what resolution you're running the VM at
[19:26] <enigma9o7> The VM is not running.
[19:26] <enigma9o7> THis is not because the VM is running.  Forget I mentioned t he VM.
[19:26] <enigma9o7> I know what causes it, I just wanna kno whow to fix it.
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> If not the VM, then what is causing it? cause you have only told us that it happens when you run a VM
[19:27] <enigma9o7> Right.  I know w hat causes it.  Not asking about that.
[19:27] <enigma9o7> Just asking how to set mouse speed from command line.
[19:27] <enigma9o7> Sorry to confuse you with irrelevant details.
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> enigma9o7: we can't help if we don't know what triggers the behavior in the first place.
[19:27] <enigma9o7> Why not?
[19:28] <enigma9o7> It is irrelevant.  If you actually know this and are just being an ass, then stop.
[19:28] <enigma9o7> If you dont know, stop being an ass.
[19:28] <enigma9o7> Assume I just want it faster.
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> I'm trying to understand the entire problem.
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> And you're behavior is against community guidelines of using this channel. if you can't be nice, then please leave
[19:29] <enigma9o7> I dont want to keep having to use settings gui.
[19:30] <enigma9o7> Yeah, fuck you, can't be nice to asshole.
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> and how is playing with xinput supposed to fix a problem that might wayland?
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> xinput => x.org
[19:38] <eelstrebor> is hdr available for linux?
[19:40] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: HDR has limited support. Both X.org and Wayland environments do not natively have support for HDR at this time.
[19:41] <eelstrebor> grrrr - i just bought a gaming monitor with hdr capability
[19:42] <tomreyn> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Valve-HDR-Linux-Gaming-Begins
[19:44] <tomreyn> there are more current articles on the same site
[19:44] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: not all hope is lost, as tomreyn has pointed to, some software does have the needed drivers for sending commands directly to the GPU through the Direct Rendering Manager in the kernel
[19:44] <pragmaticenigma> *sending HDR commands
[19:48] <eelstrebor> ok. i've read that some games have hdr support but i'm not a gamer - i prefer to watch movies on the monitor - i usually buy gaming monitors because of the fast refresh rate a low motion blur which is great for action movies
[19:50] <ravage> Connect a pi with libreelec to it and enjoy HDR content
[19:58] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: I'm not 100% certain, but VLC also has HDR support, I'm just not sure on its implementation under Linux
[20:00] <eelstrebor> i guess i shouldn't assume that the linux os has a feature - i'm sure hdr is coming though
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: with the continuing transition to Wayland, it's probably in the queue to be implemented on Wayland, just that higher priorities are there with Wayland getting wider adoptions, particularly from RHEL
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> and with RHEL in the mix, we can hope that brings some resources to get that adopted sooner
[20:02] <eelstrebor> vlc is suppose to play bluray but only if the aacs (?)  code is known - i just bought a bluray player for the pc but it won't play my first set of bluray disks
[20:08] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: aacs is a copy protection feature. there are plugins for VLC to get compatibility, but they're not included with the VLC distributed through the repositories or snaps.
[20:28] <ice9> is there a way to refresh a snap package, I don't mean to update it but if the app is not behaving normally, I need to kina reset/refresh it without losing it's data
[20:31] <pragmaticenigma> ice9: updates to snaps are only applied when the app is closed and restarted
[20:32] <ravage> "snap remove <package>" keeps a snapshot of the data
[20:33] <ravage> so you could reinstall the snap. but it is unlikely that the actuall application is broken
[20:34] <ravage> if the data is broken it does not make sense to keep it
[21:35] <k4k0> Good afternoon, does anyone know if Ubuntu works well with sendmail? Or do I need to install postfix together?
[21:35] <rbox> what does "works well" even mean
[21:36] <k4k0> tell me if I will be able to receive emails from sendmail or postfix from my machine in a specific email
[21:37] <k4k0> I saw some tutorials, but the way to install sendmail or postfix is very different, and I don't know which is really a safe installation
[21:37] <k4k0> because I only need my machine to send email and I don't need to receive it.
[21:38] <rbox> you can configur either one to do whatever you want
[21:38] <rbox> installing software without udnersetnadin git and without configring it properly is not safe regardless of what it is
[21:38] <rbox> understanding it*
[21:38] <k4k0> For me to understand, postfix is one and sendmail is another correct? Or do I need to install both?
[21:39] <rbox> they are both mail transfer agents
[21:39] <rbox> nothing to do with each other other than they both are MTAs
[21:39] <k4k0> ah
[21:39] <rbox> i dont even know if it'll let you instlal both
[21:40] <k4k0> It's because the system I use indicates to use sendmail, I thought I should also install postfix for it to work.
[21:40] <pragmaticenigma> k4k0: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:41] <k4k0> pragmaticenigma
[21:42] <k4k0> Great question, I better be more specific. I have a system on my VPS, where the user via IRC requests a code via eggdrop and this eggdrop uses the sendmail system to send the code to the user.
[21:43] <rbox> all MTA's provide the sendmail program
[21:43] <k4k0> but for the user to be able to receive this email via IRC using it, I need to have a sendmail installed for the VPS to send an email to the email that the user requested.
[21:43] <rbox> whether you use sendmail or postfix or exim or whatever
[21:43] <k4k0> ah rbox ok
[21:44] <k4k0> but in the conf of this system, it requests sendmail, so I should install sendmail I think
[21:44] <rbox> what do you mean "requires sendmail"
[21:45] <k4k0> https://dpaste.com/5QM2EF4YT
[21:46] <rbox> yes like i said
[21:46] <rbox> [02:43:22 PM] <rbox> all MTA's provide the sendmail program
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> the joys of multiple things being named the same thing
[21:46] <k4k0> so if I install postfix, I can change this path "set sendmailPath "/usr/sbin/sendmail" to set sendmailPath "/usr/sbin/postfix"
[21:47] <ravage> k4k0: install postfix. learn how to configure it to send email outgoing through an external mail service (gmail or whatever). sending mail is not trivial and if done wrong most emails will never arrive. especially from a know VPS IP range
[21:47] <rbox> theres nothing to change
[21:47] <rbox> it pvodies sendmail
[21:47] <rbox> provides
[21:48] <k4k0> hum
[21:48] <k4k0> Let me see if I can find any tutorials on the internet on how to install postfix on ubuntu
[21:51] <rbox> i'm sure you'll find at least one
[21:51] <rbox> lol
[21:53] <k4k0> Yes, I found several, but several different ways to install them.
[21:53] <k4k0> lol
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> k4k0: a sendmail binary is included with postfix. postfix is preferred because it tends to be more performant, and follows better security practices for securing a mail server. Postfix will supply a sendmail compatible executable, which is why the comment was there that you don't need to change anything with eggdrop.
[21:53] <k4k0> I'll try, if something goes wrong, as much as I can do, and remove it and that's it
[21:54] <k4k0> pragmaticenigma aaah
[21:54] <k4k0> now I understand what you said.
[21:56] <rbox> k4k0: apt install postfix is the only way to install it...
[21:59] <k4k0> ok
[22:00] <rbox> what differnet ways arey ou finding
[22:05] <k4k0> I already did the installation, now I'm looking at the configuration part.
[22:05] <k4k0> .cf etc
[22:30] <pragmaticenigma> rbox: I think what they mean by "find ways" or "different ways" is more on the configuration side, less about the literal installing of the package
[22:31] <Habbie> surely 30% of the howtos propose some random apt repo, or compiling things
[22:33] <k4k0> oh
[22:33] <k4k0> It's working perfectly, I didn't know that, I thought sendmail needed postfix, I only installed postfix and it has the sendmail binary and the email is working and receiving in gmail
[22:34] <k4k0> thanks pragmaticenigma and rbox
[22:35] <pragmaticenigma> k4k0: you'll want to make sure that your install is locked down a bit. At least make sure it doesn't become a mail relay or have unnecassary exposure ot the internet
[22:46] <k4k0> In fact, he will only send emails.
[22:46] <k4k0> It will not actually be an email server where people will send emails, but rather just receive the email of the request that eggdrop asks for, I believe that I will not have any problems with email server blocks
[22:52] <pragmaticenigma> k4k0: right, so you'll want to make sure that it's the only thing it can do
[22:53] <pragmaticenigma> common security practices for a server. making sure only necessary ports are open (shouldn't need any incoming connections as this is only outbound sending.)
[23:03] <k4k0> yes, prabhakar
[23:03] <k4k0> pragmaticenigma