| xypron | o/ | 16:01 |
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| ginggs | o/ | 16:01 |
| ogayot | o/ | 16:01 |
| zhsj | o/ | 16:01 |
| slyon | o/ | 16:01 |
| adrien | \o | 16:01 |
| enr0n | o/ | 16:01 |
| mkukri | o/ | 16:01 |
| ravikant_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| pushkarnk | o/ | 16:02 |
| bdrung | \o | 16:02 |
| mclemenceau | o/ | 16:03 |
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| bdrung | #startmeeting | 16:04 |
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| bdrung | #topic Lightning rounds | 16:05 |
| bdrung | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-04-january-2024/41394/2 | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | bdrung: Are these bug patterns you've committed or are you using them locally? | 16:05 |
| bdrung | bdmurray, most of the news ones were just locally. I did not pushlish those bug pattern where I do not expect new reports in the future. | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | that makes sense to me | 16:06 |
| slyon | enr0n: new systemd changed the generator paths to move to /usr/lib, right? | 16:07 |
| danilogondolfo | yes, I've got into this problem hehe | 16:08 |
| slyon | I see netplan FTBFS in unstable and noble. But I guess that's actually a good thing, so we can move away from /lib | 16:08 |
| enr0n | slyon: yes I believe so | 16:08 |
| vorlon | Ubuntu has been "usr merged" for several cycles; as long as your files don't go missing on upgrade due to the /lib -> /usr/lib move, it's fine to use the new path | 16:09 |
| vorlon | there's discussion on debian-devel about some of the pitfalls, mostly to do with Replaces: between packages at the same time as paths change | 16:09 |
| slyon | ACK. I think for Netplan it's not too special. We've been shipping the generator in /lib/ for legacy reasons, but I think the move should be pretty simple | 16:10 |
| bdmurray | Skia: What happened upstream with klibc? | 16:12 |
| Skia | nothing yet, the MR I uploaded to noble is still not merged: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/klibc/-/merge_requests/12 | 16:13 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Merge 12 in kernel-team/klibc "d/i/h/klibc-utils: Fix compatibility issue with busybox and improve verbose debug output." [Opened] | 16:13 | |
| bdmurray | Oh, debian modified coreutils ... got it | 16:15 |
| Skia | what happened instead is that Debian reverted upstream's behavior change in coreutils, so that cp and mv don't start breaking all the scripts of the world, and added a deprecation warning that upstream forgot | 16:15 |
| Skia | but I also red that they still need to fix broken cp/mv usage in packages, and that should include klibc | 16:16 |
| adrien | the change in coreutils is not new anymore by now though | 16:16 |
| Skia | according to the discussions upstream, it's not new, but it's not widely shipped by distributions either, so in a sense, it's quite new | 16:17 |
| bdrung | enough time to read the reports. moving on. | 16:17 |
| bdrung | #topic Release incoming bugs | 16:18 |
| bdrung | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:18 |
| bdrung | bug #1969394 | 16:18 |
| adrien | yeah, it's new for us because 9.2 and 9.3 had not been shipped in debian and ubuntu | 16:18 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969394 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Settings & Livepatch' button opens 'settings' tab, not livepatch" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969394 | 16:18 | |
| Skia | correct | 16:18 |
| bdrung | that update-manager bug is about UI changes and therefore belongs to the desktop team | 16:19 |
| bdrung | bug #2017401 | 16:20 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Jammy) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017401 | 16:20 | |
| vorlon | that one should be taken for noble, but there's no action for Foundations at the moment because there's a dependency on changes to livepatch to expose the necessary information about whether a reboot is required | 16:24 |
| vorlon | I think we should go ahead and target this | 16:26 |
| bdrung | okay, i'll tag it. | 16:27 |
| bdrung | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:28 |
| bdrung | bug #2041518 is for the desktop team | 16:29 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041518 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:5:_g_log_abort:g_log_writer_default:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_standard" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041518 | 16:29 | |
| bdrung | bug #2041831 | 16:29 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041831 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager:11:g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a:g_object_ref:gdk_event_copy:pygi_boxed_copy_in_place:arg_boxed_to_py_cleanup" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2041831 | 16:29 | |
| vorlon | I'll ask the Desktop Team to investigate | 16:32 |
| bdrung | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:32 |
| bdrung | nothing for us | 16:32 |
| bdrung | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:32 |
| bdrung | nothing for us | 16:33 |
| bdrung | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:33 |
| bdrung | nothing marked for us, but 12 unknown | 16:34 |
| bdrung | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 16:34 |
| bdrung | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 16:34 |
| bdrung | handing over to vorlon | 16:35 |
| vorlon | per ginggs we can ignore the python3-defaults stuff, he and doko are working through that | 16:35 |
| vorlon | apt aiui is with juliank | 16:35 |
| vorlon | libcgi-pm-perl blocked for a little bit | 16:35 |
| bdrung | i like to take pycryptodome which would be a follow up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pycryptodome/+bug/2039968 | 16:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2039968 in pycryptodome (Debian) "pycryptodome: Baseline violation on i386 and test FTBFS on !x86" [Unknown, Confirmed] | 16:36 | |
| vorlon | sounds like libcgi-pm-perl was with cpete, and needs some autopkgtests triggered cleverly | 16:37 |
| vorlon | cpete: can you follow up with this? if there are questions about how to get the tests properly run, feel free to ask (me, #ubuntu-release, someone) | 16:37 |
| cpete | ack | 16:37 |
| vorlon | python-secretstorage, IRC logs say cpete was touching this one as well? | 16:38 |
| vorlon | at least the vorta autopkgtest part | 16:38 |
| vorlon | let's pass that one to adrien | 16:40 |
| vorlon | python-secretstorage: adrien | 16:40 |
| vorlon | there's also an MIR issue in there too fwiw | 16:40 |
| vorlon | Component mismatch entries | 16:40 |
| vorlon | python3-secretstorage/amd64 in main cannot depend on python3-jeepney in universe | 16:40 |
| vorlon | s390-tools, let's see if this is waiting for an AA | 16:40 |
| vorlon | it is | 16:40 |
| slyon | hmm.. jeepney rings a bell | 16:40 |
| vorlon | I'll take that (s390-tools + s390-tools-signed) | 16:41 |
| slyon | (but I can't find context, currently) | 16:41 |
| vorlon | boost1.74 | 16:41 |
| slyon | It might have been a MIR candidate in the past. | 16:41 |
| vorlon | "only" stuck for 16 days, so we haven't looked at this yet :) | 16:41 |
| vorlon | doko uploaded it but it was a no-change rebuild | 16:42 |
| vorlon | bdrung: can you take this? | 16:42 |
| vorlon | brltty blocks on liblouis, which is desktop's | 16:42 |
| bdrung | i would prefer to follow up on pycryptodome (to help the python migration) | 16:43 |
| vorlon | dpkg was my upload, but the sbuild autopkgtest behavior is knotty | 16:43 |
| vorlon | dbungert: can you have a look at dpkg vs sbuild? | 16:43 |
| dbungert | vorlon: ack | 16:43 |
| vorlon | libtirpc vs glibc: danilogondolfo ? | 16:43 |
| danilogondolfo | vorlon, ack | 16:43 |
| vorlon | socat: xypron? | 16:44 |
| xypron | ok | 16:44 |
| vorlon | python-werkzeug: slyon? | 16:44 |
| slyon | ok | 16:44 |
| vorlon | python-apt, I'm assuming juliank is on this one also | 16:44 |
| vorlon | cmake: mkukri? | 16:45 |
| mkukri | ack | 16:45 |
| vorlon | debconf: enr0n? | 16:45 |
| enr0n | vorlon: ack | 16:45 |
| vorlon | I'll take acl | 16:45 |
| vorlon | netplan.io vs wpa: ogayot? | 16:45 |
| ogayot | vorlon: ack | 16:45 |
| slyon | ^ probably just flaky | 16:46 |
| vorlon | fwiw if someone figures out the glibc stuff on debconf or libtirpc, maybe it also applies to binutils | 16:46 |
| vorlon | not going to assign binutils at the moment though | 16:46 |
| vorlon | btrfs-progs is i386 dep-wait, I'll take that | 16:46 |
| vorlon | and that's the list | 16:46 |
| vorlon | bdrung: | 16:46 |
| bdrung | i looked at boost1.74. the fist test failure is a dependency issue and i probably just have to retry the test. | 16:47 |
| bdrung | #topic AOB | 16:47 |
| tsimonq2 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1059941 (FYI, part of a great discussion yesterday, ducking back out :) ) | 16:49 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1059941 in debhelper "dh_makeshlibs: time_t automatic provides are wrong for libs with previous ABI transition" [Normal, Open] | 16:49 | |
| bdrung | Speak now or forever hold your peace | 16:54 |
| bdrung | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:55:03 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-01-04-16.04.moin.txt | 16:55 |
| * arraybolt3 holds my piece of pizza for the rest of forever I guess | 16:55 | |
| arraybolt3 | typing's gonna be tricky with only one hand though | 16:55 |
| * Eickmeyer takes arraybolt3's piece of pizza and eats it | 16:56 | |
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