[00:19] <holmanb> meena: merged :-)
[00:19] <meena> holmanb: weeeehoooow
[00:19]  * meena goes to update FreeBSD & OpenBSD ports
[00:44] <meena> freebsd updated, now on to OpenBSD
[00:49] <holmanb> nice
[01:04] <minimal> hmm, not having a great day for c-i work, having to deal with an Alpine drama :-(
[01:05] <meena> that's my "favourite" part of working in Open Source
[01:06] <minimal> something that I warned to no avail many months ago would be a future problem has yesterday/today become a problem :-(
[01:08] <meena> minimal: i hope you refrained from saying: "I told you so"
[01:14] <minimal> well as I'm the person who authored the PR that is now "causing" the problems I'm getting a bit of flack and am frustrated
[01:15] <minimal> basically Alpinie's Grub package doesn't automatically run "grub-install" upon package updates/upgrades.....yesterday they merged my Grub 2.12 packaging (upstream finally releases a few days before Xmas)........now some people upgrade from Grub 2.06 to 2.12 are having unbootable systems
[01:16] <minimal> meena: I've already pointed out the IRC logs entry of me saying "there *WILL* likely be problems with upgrades once Grub 2.12 is packaged, something needs to be done, here's a PR for a potential way to reduce/eliminate the problem"
[01:16] <minimal> meena: logs from Octobor lol
[01:16] <minimal> October even
[01:17] <meena> ooooooooofff
[01:19] <minimal> if grub-install (in any distro) is not run during a Grub 2.06 -> Grub 2.12 upgrade (or indeed even between minor patches of any version) then the already installed MBR (BIOS) or EFI file (UEFI), plus the modules used for booting are not updated - so you end up with a partly Grub 2.06 and partly Grub 2.12 "installation on your system
[01:19] <minimal> and then potentially "fun" ensues when you reboot...
[01:33] <holmanb> oof, so painful
[01:34]  * holmanb logs off for the night
[01:34] <minimal> holman: Debian does seem to run grub-install in post install, haven't checked Ubuntu yet
[02:44] <sam_> we've had a lot of people hit this
[02:44] <sam_> often where they had double grubs in /boot
[02:44] <sam_> (just in general in gentoo i mean)
[02:56] <minimal> sam_: when I brought it up in Alpine as an accident waiting to happen months ago the basic answer was "well no other distro seems to run grub-install upon package updates so why should we?"
[02:58] <minimal> so in the past 24hrs I've seen at least 5 people "breaking" their Alpine machines with this so far :-(