[00:01] <Bashing-om> alcosta: What IRC client are you using ? My irssi client puts the output in a new window that the server creates.
[00:37] <alcosta> Sorry, Bashing-om, I was discussing on #python and I din't see your replay! I'm using gamja (https://web.libera.chat/gamja/).
[00:40] <Bashing-om> alcosta: I have no experience with gamja // maybe look in the status window (1) for the output ?
[00:41] <bprompt> alcosta: no option to use a native irc client?
[00:42] <alcosta> Sorry, bpromt! What do you mean with "no option to use a native irc client?" I don't understand!
[00:44] <alcosta> Sorry, Bashing-om, I'm writing on a page of google chrome! I don't see any status window (1)!
[00:45] <Bashing-om> alcosta: Well, I am out of ideas :(
[00:46] <bprompt> alcosta:  there are many native irc clients, which is what Bashing-om is referring to with saying irssi,  hmmm
[00:47] <bprompt> alcosta:  for example, I use hexchat -> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/0b/00/b20b000f45b9c223ab1400c92c00c44e.png
[00:53] <alcosta> Thank you, bprompt! I will look for a native irc client and see what is the best for me (maybe the first one I'll find!). Thank you! :)
[00:55] <alcosta> Here in Italy is 01:53 AM. I don't know there, but here it's time to go to bed! Good night! :)
[01:02] <xangua> Isn't hexchat gtk2?
[01:06] <bprompt> xangua:   dunno, offhand I don't know any gtk2 apps these days, mind you that updating to gtk3 using CSS rules for many apps and distribution happened about 10 years or so ago
[01:07] <bprompt> it may be gtk, but definitely not 2
[01:07] <rbox> hexchat is most defintely gtk2
[01:38] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/hexchat or "apt-cache depends hexchat | grep libgtk"
[02:00]  * guiverc : hexchat is one of the few remaining gtk2 apps....
[02:25] <guzzlefry> Hello, I just did a release upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04. For some reason the mount points for my external drives now have a 1 appended to the end of the UUIDs. Any way to fix?
[02:26] <guzzlefry> For clarity, the old mount point was /media/guz/11466b05-9b41-48f5-b8cb-a3b3ca91a617. It's now /media/guz/11466b05-9b41-48f5-b8cb-a3b3ca91a6171 (note the additional 1 at the end)
[02:27] <sarnold> wild
[02:29] <guzzlefry> oh, it seems the old directory is now removed once the drive is unmounted. :P
[03:41] <morgan-u2> can I check my internet connection, speed in terminal?
[03:41] <morgan-u2> I tried to update and it said there was a problem but my ethernet looks connected b the upper right icon
[03:42] <rbox> wget a large file
[03:42] <morgan-u2> I dont know how to do that or have any idea what large means. but thanks
[03:42] <morgan-u2> I'' tke that as a no.
[03:44] <Bashing-om> !info speedtest-cli jammy | morgan-u2
[04:02] <morgan-u2> Bashing-om, it's installing'
[04:04] <morgan-u2> that's that works. didnt know that was in ubottu. jammy=new.  TY
[04:05] <morgan-u2> sudo apt upgrade
[04:05] <morgan-u2> oops
[04:06] <morgan-u2> updates are what kills chrome. It sits behind the windows and sucks up all the lucky charms.
[04:14] <Bashing-om> morgan-u2: :D
[06:33] <lotuspsychje[m]> good morning to all
[06:34] <NikNikovsky> gm
[06:53] <Guest15> hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 24.04 LTS daily build (current) to my laptop. The live system works but the installer app shows a white blank window. Do anyone have a workaround to install it? thanks a lot.
[06:54] <guiverc> Guest15, @ubuntu-next is where you can ask about unreleased products (this room is released only), and yes that's a known issue
[06:54] <guiverc> (there are multiple ISOs using different installers too)
[06:55] <Guest15> guiverc, thanks a lot for the tip. I will join @ubuntu-next then.
[06:56] <guiverc> sorry I typed @ when I meant #... if using ubuntu-desktop-installer ISO your issue is likely https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-installer/+bug/2043915 Guest15
[06:56] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2043915 in ubuntu-desktop-installer "Booting into live session results in try/install page white screen" [Unknown, New]
[06:57] <guiverc> (for more, please ask in #ubuntu-next..)
[07:50] <xxy> i open port with iptables in Ubuntu 20.04 , "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT" ,then i check rule, it exist, lile this "ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:socks
[07:50] <xxy> ", then i noticed that port can't open yet with "ss" command
[07:51] <xxy> how to open a port with iptables
[07:52] <CosmicDJ> xxy: why don't you just use ufw?
[07:53] <CosmicDJ> xxy: sudo ufw allow port 8080
[07:54] <ravage> xxy: if the port is not open in general your firewall is not the problem
[07:56] <CosmicDJ> xxy: and what ravage said, any port you open in your firewall will not magically show up in ss unless you have some program running that listens on this port (you can use nc to test -> nc -l 8080)
[07:58] <causative> xxy, show us sudo iptables -L -v, perhaps there is another rule blocking the port
[08:00] <causative> and also you don't want to use iptables and ufw at the same time, maybe ufw is blocking the port when you allowed it in iptables
[08:09] <xxy1> CosmicDJ:  if using ufw. it will let ssh broken
[08:10] <xxy1> causative: it is only one rule "ACCEPT  tcp  --  anywhere  anywhere  tcp dpt:socks" in filter table
[08:14] <causative> I'm not sure what port dpt:socks refers to, it might be 1030? anyway what does "sudo iptables-save" say
[08:14] <causative> paste the output
[08:14] <causative> to a pastebin
[08:15] <causative> anyway if that's the only rule and the input default is ACCEPT then the rule is not doing anything
[08:15] <causative> unless the input default is REJECT
[08:16] <causative> or DROP
[08:17] <xxy1> causative: https://paste.centos.org/view/23d41793
[08:18] <causative> yeah, that's not doing anything, it accepts everything
[08:18] <xxy1> causative: how to let it works?
[08:19] <causative> iptables is not interfering with your port
[08:19] <causative> if there is a problem connecting to your port, iptables is not to blame
[08:19] <causative> iptables is also not providing any security but that's a different problem
[08:34] <xxy> causative: if i enable UFW, then remote server can't be login
[09:21] <tomreyn> causative: in "dpt:socks", "dpt" refers to "destination port", and "socks" refers to the output of   grep ^socks /etc/services
[12:15] <raub> Can anyone recommend a way to see which keys the computer thinks I have pressed when I press a key? Hunting down function key issue
[12:18] <osse> raub: xev can show all sorts of info
[12:20] <raub> osse: when I press the function keys xev shows nothing
[12:22] <raub> NVM, I need to select the window and then type
[12:32] <raub> And I found the keyb is indeed boink
[12:32] <charckle> hello my fellow humans!
[12:32] <raub> charckle: big assumption you make
[12:42] <MortifiedPenguin> Hello everybody, i am fairly new to IRC and i was wondering: how can i ensure that the messages i send in a channel are encrypted? I am using Mozilla Thunderbird as IRC client (which I already figured is maybe not the best option available) on Ubuntu 22.04 and while i explicitly see an "encryption" icon for one to one chats it seems not to be available in channels.
[12:42] <MortifiedPenguin> If somebody got any useful info it would be appreciated
[12:47] <vincejv> MortifiedPenguin if ur'e connecting thru SSL commonly port 6697, your messages are pretty much encrypted
[12:49] <ravage> there is transport encryption. no end to end encryption
[12:49] <ravage> people with access to the server can read all channel messages
[12:50] <MortifiedPenguin> Thank you both for the help
[12:50] <MortifiedPenguin> ravage: that makes sense, my bad
[12:51] <ravage> you can look into Matrix if you want to get into E2E enctrypted rooms. Thunderbird supports that too. An alternative client would be https://element.io/
[12:52] <ravage> you can find the Ubuntu Matrix Community at https://matrix.to/#/#community:ubuntu.com
[12:54] <MortifiedPenguin> Actually i might look into that as I'm noticing now that I can't start encrypted one-to-one conversations (at least with the ChanServ and NickServ) but mostly I think i have to spend some time getting a better grasp of how IRC actually works
[12:54] <MortifiedPenguin> Thanks again for the suggestion though
[13:13] <atari> test
[14:02] <EriC^^[m]>  /
[14:03] <Yakov> when I use find in upper field it freezes, if htop my processes I can find /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 reponsible for this freeze | if kill that process, can use find again. How to fix it? https://ibb.co/Ht7qJqp | https://ibb.co/s31JLwc
[14:04] <ioria> Yakov, reset the db
[14:05] <Yakov> how?
[14:06] <ioria> Yakov, tracker --help
[14:06] <ioria> or tracker3 (depends on ver)
[14:10] <Guest765> hello
[14:12] <Yakov> https://justpaste.it/8191i
[14:12] <Yakov> should I make reset?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:36] <danza> hi BluesKaj
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hi danza
[15:53] <Thermoriax> What's the accepted way to modify keymapping these days? Like if I wanted my capslock to be an escape key, or I have a key xubuntu doesn't seem to see? I've read xmodmap isn't the thing anymore (though I do appear to have it installed).
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Thermoriax: there's a hand app on the repos input-remapper you can try
[16:02] <Thermoriax> The pile of issues on github doesn't inspire confidence. I'll keep looking. :)
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> !info input-remapper | Thermoriax
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> aka on the ubuntu repos^
[16:08] <Thermoriax> ah, my bad. I thought you meant the one on github, which looks nice but very buggy. :)
[16:11] <Thermoriax> Which is in fact that github package, just much older than latest.
[16:12] <Thermoriax> Thanks for the suggestion though.
[16:12] <cloudbender> linux is hard
[16:13] <Thermoriax> Life is hard. Linux is life?
[16:13] <cloudbender> I used SystemV Unix years ago, but things have changed.
[16:14] <cloudbender> I did manage to get a print queue built
[16:14] <cloudbender> It's slowly coming back to me ...
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[16:48] <cloudbender> What is the 'Device URI' referenced in a print queue 'Settings' dialog ?
[16:49] <rbox> what does it say?
[16:49] <cloudbender> Is that a reference back to the queue ? Or a reference to the queues assigned printer ?
[16:50] <cloudbender> ipp://zqueue1.local/ipp/print
[16:50] <rbox> thats the device in cups
[17:28] <cloudbender> So, the Device URI is how (other) hosts discover the printer and connect to it ?
[17:28] <cloudbender> https://imagebin.ca/v/7nHLxIzHtOCo
[17:29] <rbox> yes, thts how to connect to cups
[17:30] <cloudbender> Sorry, I'm an expert at windoze printing, but cups is different.
[17:31] <MrMobius> does Ubuntu let you log in over USB serial by default?
[17:31] <cloudbender> I have legacy terminal apps which require legacy print semantics.  I'm hoping to get the print routes stablized before I choose a terminal emulator.
[17:32] <rbox> MrMobius: no, you have to enable a getty for the port
[19:41] <coderman1> i had a server just turn off in a data center, data center employees arent very helpful. what log can i look in to see why it turned off? syslog doesnt have much
[19:42] <ravage> if the system is back online you can use journalctl
[19:42] <ravage> journalctl --list-boots
[19:43] <ravage> journalctl -b-1
[19:46] <coderman1> Jan 06 13:28:01 server1 CRON[28918]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[19:46] <coderman1> Jan 06 13:28:01 server1 CRON[28919]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[19:46] <coderman1> Jan 06 13:28:33 server1 systemd-logind[1120]: Power key pressed.
[19:46] <coderman1> Jan 06 13:28:33 server1 systemd-logind[1120]: Powering Off...
[19:46] <coderman1> Jan 06 13:28:33 server1 systemd-logind[1120]: System is powering down.
[19:46] <coderman1> Jan 06 13:28:33 server1 systemd[1]: Stopping Session 17143 of user administrator.
[19:47] <leftyfb> !paste | coderman1
[19:47] <leftyfb> coderman1: that said, it tells you exactly what happened and what time
[19:47] <leftyfb> coderman1: tell your datacenter folks someone pressed the power button at Jan 06 13:28:33 <INSERT TIMEZONE HERE>
[19:47] <leftyfb> or not
[19:49] <rbox> lol
[19:54] <dell> Hi everyone
[19:54] <dell> Do you speak Hungarian?
[21:51] <anotheryou> Hi, how to install ubuntu alongside win11 with bitlocker? Did: disable secure boot, shrunk win partition within windows. Observed: Ubuntu installer did not seem to see(?) the unallocated free space. Maybe I have to use a non default option in the installer?
[21:51] <anotheryou> Or should I create a partition in win?
[21:51] <anotheryou> (only to reformat it within the installer)
[21:52] <rbox> are you sure theres free space?
[21:52] <anotheryou> yes, 250gb or something
[21:52] <anotheryou> I see it in the windows partition manager
[21:53] <rbox> screenshot
[21:53] <rbox> and what is the error in ubuntu
[21:54] <anotheryou> will get you both, will take a while (installer loading from sloow usb :) )
[21:57] <anotheryou> rbox: https://i.imgur.com/Ellsx2u.png windows partition manager
[22:08] <anotheryou> rbox: ubuntu install option chosen: https://i.imgur.com/P4TJAfp.jpeg
[22:08] <anotheryou> rbox: ubuntu "error": https://i.imgur.com/D683814.png
[22:09] <anotheryou> I can go to the partition manager and could create an Ext4 in the empty space there, but I'm not sure what I'm doing there :)
[22:10] <anotheryou> partition manager ubuntu installer: https://i.imgur.com/p1wPspS.jpeg
[22:11] <rbox> i mean, the link it provides expalisn it...
[22:11] <jeremy31> Choose the free space use ext4 and mount point /
[22:12] <jeremy31> install bootloader to nvme0n1
[22:12] <anotheryou> jeremy31: and that would not corrupt my windows install?
[22:13] <jeremy31> anotheryou: you already made Windows rescue disks and backup up the Windows install in case something does go wrong?
[22:14] <anotheryou> jeremy31: no :). but the only thing valuable to me would be the windows license
[22:14] <anotheryou> otherwise i fresh machine with nothing on it
[22:14] <anotheryou> a
[22:16] <anotheryou> well I guess disabeling bitlocker is easiest
[22:16] <anotheryou> I can do that
[22:16] <jeremy31> anotheryou: The license might be in UEFI but you would need install disk/USB with same Windows version
[22:16] <anotheryou> jeremy31: makes sense to just disable it and try the ubuntu installer again?
[22:17] <anotheryou> and big thanks to both of you for helping me :)
[22:17] <jeremy31> anotheryou: Make Windows backups first.  Then do my suggestions for installing Ubuntu
[22:18] <anotheryou> jeremy31: ok :) any recommendation for how to do the backup?
[22:21] <anotheryou> I guess "create recovery drive" is exactly what I need..
[22:30] <jeremy31> anotheryou: Look in Windows help files
[22:36] <teddybearcell> Wow
[22:37] <teddybearcell> How many users here?
[22:37] <rbox> 1078
[22:37] <teddybearcell> Is there a more appropriate channel to speak about any topic?
[22:37] <Jibwood> 1078 right at your service
[22:37] <danjalical> 1077
[22:38] <Jibwood> @teddybearcell: whats the topic?
[22:38] <teddybearcell> Academic research papers...
[22:39] <Jibwood> Probably an appropriate channel somewhere for it
[22:39] <teddybearcell> My phone seems not to want to load the /list, and so I am forced to ask, my apologies.
[22:39] <Jibwood> ##science?
[22:40] <teddybearcell> What about books?
[22:40] <rbox> you can msg with alis
[22:40] <rbox> it'll tell you all the channels
[22:45] <teddybearcell> What is Ali's?
[22:45] <teddybearcell> Alis*
[22:46] <bparker> /msg alis help
[22:47] <rbox> a bot
[22:47] <teddybearcell> Thank you
[23:02] <teddybearcell> Seems the FBI shut down most book / academic research papers channels on IRC. I suppose that makes sense ...
[23:03] <anotheryou> since when is this channel so slow? used to be one of the busiest ones on freenode, no?
[23:03] <anotheryou> did people move to matrix?
[23:09] <Jibwood> A lot of people on discord tbh @anotheryou
[23:19] <anotheryou> Jibwood: there is an official discord?
[23:20] <Jibwood> @anotheryou: yes, Ubuntu Hideout
[23:27] <bparker> lol discord
[23:27] <bparker> never again (they won't even let me)
[23:27] <bparker> as soon as I try to join I get instant phone-walled
[23:27] <Jibwood> Yeah I'm not a fan
[23:27] <Jibwood> Full of kids
[23:27] <bparker> no matter what connection, browser or IP I try to use, always the same
[23:27] <bparker> sometimes it happens later, sometimes it's immediate
[23:40] <anotheryou> :( dualboot and encrypting the linux part is *also* difficult -_-... I thought I just disable bitlocker for win, but linux I'd like encrypted
[23:41] <Jibwood> on the same HDD/SSD?
[23:41] <anotheryou> yes
[23:41] <bparker> works fine for me
[23:42] <anotheryou> bparker: how?
[23:52] <bparker> anotheryou: by just doing it? I don't understand the issue
[23:53] <bparker> I've done dual-boot encryption with both zfs builtin encryption on the linux side as well as ecryptfs
[23:55] <anotheryou> bparker: well at least the ubuntu installer does not offer it anymore
[23:56] <anotheryou> I mean, does not for a partition
[23:56] <bparker> mine was installed to a partition
[23:56] <bparker> with the default 22.04 installer
[23:56] <anotheryou> guess ecryptfs is the way to go
[23:57] <anotheryou> which seems to need quite a few command line hoops to be jumped through
[23:57] <anotheryou> if this is the way to do it still: https://jumpcloud.com/blog/how-to-encrypt-ubuntu-20-04-desktop-post-installation
[23:58] <bparker> it's literally one command
[23:58] <bparker> > $ sudo ecryptfs-migrate-home -u winnie
[23:58] <anotheryou> oh ok
[23:59] <anotheryou> and from than on swap and home are encrypted on log-off and standby?