[03:34] <noahm> fabiomirmar: haven't had much of a chance to look. saw that there was some activity on the thread; will try to check tomorrow.
[11:55] <fabiomirmar> noahm, sounds good. Thanks. Let me know if you want to chat and I can give you more details. It's just a matter of launching a AL2023 t3 instance with, say, 3x ENI and trying to "sudo yum update" and you will see the timeout (the same happens on Debian or Ubuntu with "apt update")
[17:06] <holmanb> is anybody aware of consumers of cloud-init that use ds-identify in "report" mode?
[20:20] <meena> holmanb: that sounds like a mailing list question 
[20:20] <meena> she says, having been kicked off the mailing list
[20:29] <minimal> "that sounds like an ecumenical matter" ;-)
[20:31] <minimal> meena: I assume you recognise the reference...
[20:31] <meena> лол
[20:31] <minimal> Fr Ted...
[20:31] <meena> wrong keyboard
[20:31] <meena> meena: i have been introduced, yes
[20:33] <minimal> would you like to raise another BSD PR? Go on, go on, go on...
[22:48] <holmanb> meena: +1 I could reflect it there, but I guess it's only curiousity
[22:48] <holmanb> meena: .... you got kicked off?
[22:50] <meena> holmanb: yeah, once a year the mailing list goes, hey, you still wanna be here? confirm! And i didn't manage to do that.
[22:50] <meena> i should just re-subscribe
[22:50] <holmanb> oh
[22:50] <holmanb> gotcha
[22:50] <holmanb> minimal: assuming you've been busy, but just trying to guage when you might want a pair of eyes on the ds-identify work you've been doing?
[22:51] <holmanb> my focus is dhcpcd for now
[22:59] <holmanb> but I can carve some time when you're ready for that
[23:04]  * meena is subscribed again
[23:16] <minimal> holmanb: sorry, the past week has been one massive pain with dealing with the Alpine Grub fallout, it's "sort out" dealt with now so hope to get back to cloud-init stuff tomorrow
[23:16] <minimal> oops "sort of"
[23:16] <holmanb> minimal: gotcha, sounds good
[23:22] <meena> minimal: everyone now running post-install scripts?
[23:28] <minimal> meena: hmm.....we'll see - ,my 1st PR back in Oct was for the post-install to *optionally* run grub-install automatically (assuming the Alpine install would populate a new config file with the grub-install options it originally used so they could be used again later)
[23:29] <minimal> my 2nd "short-term" PR of last week was just to display a "nasty" warning for people to run grub-install themselves but to **suggest** the precise grub-install command that could be used (the options needed may depend on various aspects of their OS install)
[23:30] <minimal> it appears the 1st "concept" may now be used
[23:37] <minimal> the main observed problem with the Grub 2.12 upgrade (in ANY distro) is that it adds a new "bli" module, its templates to generate (via grub-mkconfig) then update grub.cfg to load the bli module.....but if you don't run grub-install there is no bli module actually present in /boot/grub/x86_64-efi and so booting on UEFI systems fails
[23:57] <meena> oooohhh that's fun. a kind of fun no one wants to have
[23:58] <meena> and is there anything you do from the grub console to fix flat?