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| dviererbe | o/ | 16:00 |
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| adrien | o// | 16:00 |
| ginggs | o/ | 16:00 |
| ogayot | o/ | 16:00 |
| slyon | \o | 16:00 |
| mkukri | o/ | 16:00 |
| zhsj | o/ | 16:00 |
| liushuyu | o/ | 16:01 |
| bdrung | \o | 16:01 |
| enr0n | o/ | 16:01 |
| pushkarnk | o/ | 16:01 |
| cpete | o/ | 16:01 |
| juliank | o/ | 16:01 |
| juliank | Firefox is really annoying when I try to find my GOogle Meet url | 16:02 |
| juliank | #startmeeting | 16:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 16:02:30 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 16:02 |
| mateus-morais | o/ | 16:02 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 16:02 |
| juliank | I forgot the name | 16:02 |
| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 16:02 |
| juliank | (This is the foundations weekly meeting) | 16:03 |
| juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-11-january-2024/ | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | "Weird stuff" | 16:06 |
| slyon | danilogondolfo: see enr0n's status about the apparmor namespace issue. I guess that's what we see in Netplan, too? | 16:09 |
| schopin | why is netplan using unshare() ? oO | 16:09 |
| slyon | unshare? oO I didn't check the details yet, but we're seeing strange autopkgtest failures related to namespace restrictions, that cannot be reproduced in Debian | 16:10 |
| schopin | that'd be the syscall to create new namespaces :) | 16:11 |
| juliank | We ready to continue? | 16:12 |
| slyon | oh right. We're not creating any namespaces manually... But it was ringing a bell in my head when I saw that context :) | 16:12 |
| danilogondolfo | the issue we are seeing seems to not be related to that I guess. It's due to /usr/lib/netplan being deleted and not recreated due upgrade as far as I can see | 16:12 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 16:13 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:13 |
| enr0n | slyon: do you have a link to an example? | 16:13 |
| juliank | bug 2048953 | 16:13 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2048953 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub fails to add boot entries if python3-apt is missing" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2048953 | 16:13 | |
| juliank | mkukri already tagged it foundations-todo, but we also need to clean the rls-nn-incoming tag | 16:14 |
| mkukri | already tagged totdo | 16:14 |
| Skia | [5~[5~ | 16:14 |
| slyon | enr0n: I don't think it's visible from the public logs. Danilo had to dig into a local VM to extract some logs. But it might be unrelated after all.. | 16:15 |
| enr0n | ack | 16:15 |
| juliank | bug 1969394 is with desktop still I believe and not actionable | 16:15 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969394 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Settings & Livepatch' button opens 'settings' tab, not livepatch" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969394 | 16:15 | |
| juliank | I'll bounce it to oo | 16:16 |
| juliank | bug 1838372 | 16:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1838372 in apport (Ubuntu) "'ubuntu-bug -w' doesn't work under wayland" [Wishlist, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838372 | 16:16 | |
| juliank | I don't think that's even possible? | 16:16 |
| bdmurray | That's my memory | 16:17 |
| juliank | Wayland doesn't support things like that by design for security reasons | 16:17 |
| bdrung | juliank, is there no way to map a window to a program name? | 16:17 |
| juliank | You can't get a list of windows even I believe | 16:17 |
| enr0n | I thought we did an SRU for this a year or two ago | 16:17 |
| bdrung | The use case: A user knows the icon and window title, but not the program name | 16:18 |
| enr0n | This looks like a duplicate of bug 1952947 | 16:18 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1952947 in apport (Ubuntu Jammy) "ubuntu-bug -w (using xprop) doesn't work under wayland" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952947 | 16:18 | |
| juliank | Well | 16:18 |
| schopin | There's no DE-agnostic way, but maybe we can figure out an API for Gnome and KDE? | 16:19 |
| bdmurray | "The patch for this bug adds a message explaining that the -w,--window option cannot be used on Wayland, and suggests a method for finding the window's PID instead." | 16:19 |
| bdrung | Yes, but the problem is that user do not know the application name. | 16:19 |
| waveform | how does firefox manage it (as a Wayland application, and something that lists "what window do you want to share?") | 16:20 |
| schopin | FWIW xdg-portal has a way to list windows when trying to do screenshots/screencast. | 16:20 |
| waveform | ah | 16:20 |
| juliank | it might not be possible to get back to the pid from that | 16:20 |
| schopin | However reading the doc I didn't see a way to get from the handle to a PID or anything like that. | 16:20 |
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| juliank | if you can get the .desktop that is enough though | 16:21 |
| juliank | But we can discuss this more and find out ways or someone on the bug tells us before comitting this to jira | 16:21 |
| juliank | bug 2048760 | 16:21 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2048760 in python-cssselect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-cssselect" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2048760 | 16:21 | |
| slyon | this is looking for a volunteer to do an MIR | 16:21 |
| schopin | not it | 16:21 |
| juliank | mkukri: ? | 16:21 |
| mkukri | sure | 16:22 |
| slyon | thanks! | 16:22 |
| juliank | bug 2048766 | 16:23 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2048766 in dmraid (Ubuntu) "Please remove dmraid from the Ubuntu archive" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2048766 | 16:23 | |
| slyon | We have a plan for this one already (see my last comment) | 16:23 |
| slyon | I'm not sure how we can track it, to not forget about it? | 16:23 |
| slyon | we might target it to a milestone, so it pops up with the release team before release | 16:26 |
| juliank | Target to feature freeze milestone | 16:26 |
| juliank | and removed the incoming tag | 16:26 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:26 |
| juliank | is really nothing new there | 16:26 |
| juliank | just desktop stuff | 16:26 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:26 |
| juliank | surprisingly empty too | 16:27 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:27 |
| juliank | is empty too | 16:27 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 16:27 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 16:28 |
| juliank | firefox is hanging | 16:28 |
| juliank | libtircp vs glibc is with danilogondolfo still I believe | 16:30 |
| juliank | python-werkzeug is with slyon still | 16:30 |
| danilogondolfo | juliank, this one is related to the problem schopin is investigating in glibc | 16:30 |
| juliank | debconf is still with enr0n | 16:31 |
| juliank | wpa vs netplan is with ogayot | 16:31 |
| schopin | danilogondolfo: sorry I forgot to do the migration-reference runs for other archs than amd64 -_- | 16:31 |
| juliank | libxcrypt vs ruby | 16:33 |
| juliank | libxcrypt vs ruby: adrien? | 16:33 |
| adrien | I'm innocent (ack) | 16:33 |
| juliank | netplan.io blocking network-manager: slyon | 16:34 |
| juliank | systemd-hwe: enr0n | 16:35 |
| juliank | debootstrap: bdrung | 16:35 |
| bdrung | ack | 16:35 |
| juliank | rsyslog: xypron | 16:36 |
| juliank | Sadly we are out of bold items and I assigned alphabetically so uh sorry | 16:37 |
| juliank | Next time we can start from the back! | 16:37 |
| juliank | python-werkzeug: pushkarnk | 16:38 |
| pushkarnk | ack | 16:38 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 16:39 |
| bdmurray | Monday is a US holiday | 16:39 |
| enr0n | \o/ | 16:39 |
| juliank | well I guess that's it | 16:41 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 16:41 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:41:14 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-01-11-16.02.moin.txt | 16:41 |
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