[12:03] <bhechinger> So, in other news I have abandoned you for NixOS. :-D
[12:30] <bhechinger> Ok, this is weird as hell. On the AudioFire4 front left/right work on the headphones (and nothing else of course)
[12:31] <bhechinger> on the Saffire Pro24 rear left/right work on the headphones (and nothing else of course)
[12:31] <bhechinger> How the hell do I fix this?
[12:32] <bhechinger> Nothing in FFADO Mixer jumps out at me
[12:41] <StudioUser67> hi
[12:54] <bhechinger> Well ok then
[14:40] <Eickmeyer> Par for the course, man.
[14:41] <Eickmeyer> bhechinger: For your firewire stuff, #opensourcemusicians . Maybe #lau . Honestly, I have no clue. This channel isn't active with many people who know anything about FFADO or Firewire, and Firewire audio is in general going the way of the dodo.
[14:42] <Eickmeyer> Everything is starting to move to multichannel PCIe Optical or USB.
[14:42] <bhechinger> Yeah, it's a shame, but it is what it is. Thanks for the channel recommendations. I have a lot of work to do to get this as clean as Ubuntu Studio has it. :-D
[14:43] <Eickmeyer> Also glad you found the Matrix rooms. Eventually going back to a Matrix-first setup as the Matrix channels are on an official Ubuntu server.
[14:43] <bhechinger> I'm not a fan of USB for audio, but I might just have to bite the bullet and get used to it.
[14:44] <bhechinger> is the bridge now stable or is it still wonky?
[14:44] <Eickmeyer> Not bridged yet. The old bridge was run by a 3rd party, this will be first party.
[14:44] <bhechinger> Ah, ok, cool.
[14:45] <bhechinger> Any tips on what to search for about multichannel PCIe Optical?
[14:45] <Eickmeyer> Well, you have to have a sound card that supports it.
[14:45] <Eickmeyer> They're kinda spendy right now.
[14:45] <bhechinger> Oh, so continuing to battle firewire it is. :-D
[14:46] <Eickmeyer> Pipewire is doing some good stuff with the USB latency, so 24.04 will be better if that's your concern.
[14:47] <bhechinger> I've actually switched to pipewire on my desktop, but I have no clue what I'm doing. :-D
[14:48] <Eickmeyer> 23.10?
[14:48] <bhechinger> NixOS. Sorry. :-D
[14:49] <Eickmeyer> Oh, ok. Ubuntu Studio 23.10 has pipewire set up with the jack pieces done for you and is ready to go out of the box, zero configuration. You can adjust the latency and everything with a configuration app.
[14:49] <Eickmeyer> How that works with FFADO is untested, however, but Pipewire and FFADO should work out of the box as well, at least that's what they tell me.
[14:50] <Eickmeyer> (the pipewire devs)
[14:51] <bhechinger> Yeah, there is a nixos module called musnix which sets up pipewire for you (and does the lowlatency kernel, etc). The docs are, well... light, so I'm not sure what exactly I should be doing. It does setup FFADO as well, so I've got that out of the box which is nice.
[14:51] <bhechinger> but I don't know how to do the "old jack stuff" I was doing before.
[14:51] <bhechinger> and audio is weird
[14:52] <bhechinger> both firewire devices working at once is neat as hell too. :-D
[14:53] <bhechinger> Any experience with a MAYA33 eX? Looks like it would do everything I need and get some stuff off my desk.
[14:56] <bhechinger> well, linux support is unknown
[14:57] <bhechinger> maybe worth the risk at 133 pounds, but getting stuff shipper here from overseas sucks. :-D
[15:01] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, no experience with the MAYAA eX.
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> I'm a USB/live audio guy.
[15:20] <bhechinger> I'm a glutton for punishment it seems. 🤣
[15:27] <Eickmeyer> I just don't like stuff that's overly complicated. Making things as simple as possible is the goal.
[15:52] <bhechinger> Yeah, I was just looking for better latency all those years ago and FW was the right choice at the time.
[15:53] <bhechinger> I kinda with I had gone all in on the PCIe option at the time, but live and learn.
[16:25] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, stuff keeps getting better and better, so even USB isn't something to sleep on as technology evolves.
[16:49] <bhechinger> Eickmeyer: here's one you may (or may not) know. qjackctl finds pipewire's jack just fine. RaySession does not.
[16:49] <bhechinger> Any ideas?
[17:20] <Eickmeyer> bhechinger: Are you on Ubuntu Studio or are you on NixOS?
[17:20] <bhechinger> NixOS
[17:20] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, can't help you there. It works fine on Ubuntu Studio.
[17:21] <bhechinger> Hmm, looks like RaySession should be pipewire aware?
[17:21] <bhechinger> Maybe the one packaged here is too old?
[17:21] <Eickmeyer> That or configurations for pipewire-jack are set up wrong.
[17:24] <bhechinger> do you have the configuration you're using on US?
[17:24] <bhechinger> upgrading raysession didn't help
[17:24] <Eickmeyer> It's part of the ubuntustudio-default-settings source package, so https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-default-settings
[17:27] <bhechinger> where in that package is it? I'm not finding it
[17:28] <Eickmeyer> It's actually set by a command, so usr/sbin/ubuntustudio-pwjack-config
[17:29] <bhechinger> found it
[17:35] <bhechinger> Hmmm, doesn't look like it's doing anything fancy.
[17:38] <Eickmeyer>  Did you run it with the "enable" argument?
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> 1
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> 03
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> 30
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> 033333333333333330000000000000
[17:44] <arraybolt3> 12345
[17:44] <arraybolt3> 98989898989898989898989898
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> LISTEN.... I'm trying to repair a mic clip.
[17:46] <arraybolt3> ah, and lol
[21:11] <bhechinger> ooooohhhh, wireplumber can tell you the pci id!
[21:11] <bhechinger> oerheks:  oh, btw, you are wrong about the device thing. I have 4 fw devices even though only two of them have anything plugged in.