[22:15] <ball> How do I report a minor bug in Ubuntu?
[22:25] <davef> here I guess? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[22:36] <ball> Thanks
[22:50] <ball> Well that's a Lunchpad account created.
[22:51] <daftykins> i think there was the command "ubuntu-bug" also
[22:52] <ball> That didn't work because it wants a package name and xcalc isn't a package.
[22:53] <daftykins> so file against x11-apps ?
[22:54] <daftykins> judging by the search result i just had from apt-cache
[22:54] <ball> Thanks
[22:54] <ball> I don't know apt-cache
[22:54] <daftykins> so after an apt update, "apt-cache search x" lets you search for programs with keywords if you don't know the package name yet
[22:59] <ball> Agh!  Trying to report one bug reveals an unrelated one.
[22:59] <daftykins> it does o0
[22:59] <ball> Though in fairness it's partly a limitation of the laptop I'm using (doesn't have a middle mouse button on the trackpad)
[23:00] <ball> ...and I don't see an option to simulate a middle mouse button by clicking L and R at the same time.
[23:00] <ball> ...which means I can't paste the error message into the Further information box
[23:00] <daftykins> shift+insert
[23:01] <daftykins> or just ctrl+v like usual depending
[23:01] <ball> It pastes /something/ but not the text
[23:01] <ball> unless it's white-on-white.
[23:02] <ball> I'll just retype it.
[23:02] <penguin42> ball: What are you seeing?
[23:03] <penguin42> ball: I'd say your chances of getting a bug fixed in xcalc by reporting it in ubuntu are smaller than the precision representable in xcalc
[23:04] <daftykins> :D
[23:04] <ball> I submitted it.
[23:04] <daftykins> i see you and i raise you "any bug at all"
[23:04] <penguin42> ball: Link?
[23:05] <ball> Can't paste the link ;-)
[23:05] <ball> Oh hang on, this is from an X app rather than terminal, so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11-apps/+bug/2049321
[23:05] -lubotu:#ubuntu-uk- Launchpad bug 2049321 in x11-apps (Ubuntu) "xcalc needs a font" [Undecided, New]
[23:07] <ball> I done made me a bug report.
[23:07] <penguin42> oh, hmm, that probably is an ubuntu packaging error; I mean it's probably a missing dependency on a font package
[23:26] <ball> If I make one, does that mean I have to fix someone else's? ;-)
[23:45] <penguin42> ball: Can I suggest installing xfonts-100dpi or xfonts-75dpi
[23:46] <ball> I can try it...
[23:48] <penguin42> you may need to restart X
[23:48] <ball> Hmm... back shortly...
[23:51] <ball> That did it.
[23:52] <penguin42> excellent
[23:52] <penguin42> ball: Please add a comment to your bug that it fixed it, and so it's probably a missing dependency 
[23:52] <daftykins> did you do some kind of minimalist install that avoided some package deps, or is it really just a mistake on the part of the install?
[23:52] <penguin42> daftykins: I'm wondering if they don't bother with the bitmap fonts?
[23:53] <daftykins> hmm beyond my experience level honestly
[23:53] <ball> I probably did choose "minimal" so that I could add just the packages that I need.
[23:54] <ball> Odd that it would include xcalc but not the fonts it needs though.
[23:54] <daftykins> i'd probably test in a VM going both routes, i would have thought even the minimal option has the complete Xorg 
[23:55] <ball> I don't think I have anything that can run Linux VMs.
[23:55] <penguin42> daftykins: Those bits are pretty prehistoric now
[23:55] <daftykins> ja
[23:56] <daftykins> ball: do you like it for being leaner and quicker to start? i think i read ages ago the bundled calculator got snap-ified
[23:56] <daftykins> i don't use desktop ubuntu so have no idea
[23:57] <ball> daftykins: I can't compare it with the full version because I haven't tried that in recent years.
[23:58] <daftykins> are we talking the calculator app or the full OS install now? 'cause testing in a VM would verify the latter
[23:58] <ball> I don't think I have anything that can run Linux VMs.
[23:59] <ball> (the full OS)