| telgareith | wait, are not all yy.04 releases LTS? | 01:12 |
|---|---|---|
| telgareith | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_version_history | 01:12 |
| rbox | every 2 years | 01:13 |
| telgareith | that's dumb | 01:13 |
| telgareith | I would expect something else for non LTS releases, or change LTS release indication. | 01:14 |
| mybalzitch | cool, you're welcome to contribute for a while, get on the board, then come up with a coherent argument about why LTS releases should be more or less frequent | 01:14 |
| rbox | telgareith: what do you mean "change LTS release indication" | 01:15 |
| telgareith | I've always assumed xx.04 meant a LTS release | 01:18 |
| telgareith | microsoft does it like "22H1 LTSB" | 01:19 |
| rbox | just because you assumed something doesnt make it so | 01:19 |
| rbox | it doesnt matter what microsoft does | 01:19 |
| mybalzitch | I mean, LTS is in the release name | 01:20 |
| mybalzitch | 20.04 LTS, that's LTS. 22.04 LTS, that's also LTS | 01:20 |
| mybalzitch | 23.10 ... that's not LTS | 01:20 |
| oerheks | next one is .. get used to it | 01:21 |
| telgareith | ahh, linux people. same level of Caring about usability as ever. | 01:39 |
| oerheks | telgareith, this is ubuntu support, drop that attitude. | 01:43 |
| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| xxy | my Ubuntu $PATH be changed like this " $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH:/snap/bin", so mostly command can't execute, how to restore it | 02:57 |
| rbox | xxy: what? | 02:59 |
| antonchigur | echo $PATH | 03:00 |
| antonchigur | and send output in this chat | 03:00 |
| xxy | antonchigur, the result of echo "$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH:/snap/bin | 03:01 |
| xxy | " | 03:01 |
| antonchigur | xxy: you are forget add /bin and /usr/bin | 03:01 |
| antonchigur | $PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH:/snap/bin | 03:02 |
| === docmax_ is now known as docmax | ||
| antonchigur | xxy: try to change to it | 03:02 |
| xxy | antonchigur, i don't know how to change it , the command like "vim" "sudo" can't work well now | 03:03 |
| antonchigur | what bash are you use? zsh or bash? | 03:03 |
| xxy | antonchigur, bash | 03:04 |
| antonchigur | echo "$PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/snap/bin" >> ~/.bashrc | 03:04 |
| antonchigur | try something like this | 03:04 |
| xxy | antonchigur, i can't switch into root , after executing you command ,the $PATH have no change | 03:10 |
| antonchigur | you are execute that command under user account? | 03:10 |
| antonchigur | if its right, you are need type next command | 03:11 |
| antonchigur | . ~/.bashrc | 03:11 |
| antonchigur | this command will reload your bash environment | 03:11 |
| xxy | antonchigur, https://paste.centos.org/view/857bafad | 03:14 |
| xxy | antonchigur, by the way , the ubuntu system is provided by VPS vendor, | 03:15 |
| arraybolt3 | oof, VPS vendors are known for applying weird customizations to their Ubuntu images | 03:15 |
| antonchigur | its right | 03:16 |
| antonchigur | xxy: try to log out and log in in your VPS | 03:16 |
| xxy | antonchigur, ok , if it not work yet, then i re-install OS | 03:17 |
| antonchigur | ok, good luck xxy | 03:17 |
| === shlom is now known as V1A | ||
| jwash | Hi everyone. So that I can lookup tutorials, what is the concept called to make a second network on an Ubuntu computer (2nd nic) so that i can transfer files with another computer on that secondary network, but still retain internet connectivity via the primary network? | 04:19 |
| jwash | like a pure file transfer network | 04:19 |
| jwash | like internet network is 192.168.x.x and file transfer is 10.10.x.x | 04:21 |
| ravage | jwash: set static IPs in that network. Do not use any gateway. That's it. | 04:25 |
| jwash | ravage: direct connection, or can i use a switch? | 04:31 |
| rbox | siwthc doesnt effect anything | 04:34 |
| jwash | https://imgur.com/7NgFc5p.png | 04:35 |
| jwash | can i do the top configuration | 04:35 |
| jwash | by adding a second nic to each computer? | 04:35 |
| jwash | the device at 192.168.0.1 is a router/switch | 04:36 |
| rbox | you can try it | 04:36 |
| rbox | not gonna make your computer blow up | 04:36 |
| jwash | lol true | 04:37 |
| italicizem | What's a good way to keep 22.04 pretty fresh? Backports a good idea? Mostly thinking about desktop apps but maybe also things like sound libraries etc. | 05:42 |
| === diceLibrarian2 is now known as liceDibrarian | ||
| lotuspsychje | !uptodate | italicizem | 05:54 |
| ubottu | italicizem: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | italicizem: there's also !HWE to have the latest drivers and kernels if you like | 05:55 |
| lotuspsychje | and snaps have more recent apps too, so you dont need to have to backport | 05:55 |
| italicizem | @lotuspsychje thanks! | 05:57 |
| italicizem | !HWE | 05:57 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 05:57 |
| === wolfy is now known as Guest5431 | ||
| unknown_ | test | 08:44 |
| en1gma | does ubuntu touch (android devices) have an irc channel? i cant seem to find it | 08:54 |
| Whiskey` | what package provides the 'additional drivers' app? | 10:00 |
| lotuspsychje | Whiskey`: software&sources | 10:00 |
| lotuspsychje | Whiskey`: you can also check from commandline, ubuntu-drivers list | 10:01 |
| ravage | the package ubuntu-drivers-common provides ubuntu-drivers . the gui part is in the package software-properties-gtk | 10:04 |
| Whiskey` | software-properties-gtk is what was missing, thank you. | 10:05 |
| lotuspsychje | cookie is for you ravage :p | 10:05 |
| lotuspsychje | Whiskey`: you found a bug, or? | 10:06 |
| Whiskey` | for sure a 'or' | 10:06 |
| ravage | 🍪 nom nom | 10:06 |
| lotuspsychje | Whiskey`: sorry? | 10:07 |
| Whiskey` | no at all lotuspsychje | 10:07 |
| Whiskey` | i went for a tiny install and then the plan pivioted and i needed a gui so a lot of packages didnt install with ubuntu-desktop | 10:07 |
| lotuspsychje | ah i see | 10:08 |
| Whiskey` | and it just keeps going sideways | 10:08 |
| Whiskey` | if the wife wouldnt murder me for raiding the bank i would just buy a absolutely unreasonable system and be done with this | 10:09 |
| lotuspsychje | lets keep things ontopic Whiskey` | 10:09 |
| Whiskey` | ah right | 10:11 |
| Whiskey` | whats the diff from nvidia-x-driver and nvidia-x-server | 10:11 |
| lotuspsychje | server drivers are for ubuntu server | 10:11 |
| Whiskey` | .... | 10:11 |
| Whiskey` | isnt the only difference there, a gui/desktop? | 10:12 |
| lotuspsychje | Whiskey`: can this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1262401/what-is-the-nvidia-server-driver | 10:13 |
| Whiskey` | likely will, reading. | 10:14 |
| Whiskey` | ok so more or less the difference is support timeline | 10:16 |
| Whiskey` | aaand wth. 'cant update while offline. the box is very much online. | 10:16 |
| Whiskey` | eh. "pk-client-error-quark cannot download whilst offline" has one solution on the forum and its nonsense. "disable networkmanager" | 10:29 |
| gordonjcp | FTGh/ YTU# | 10:38 |
| PeGaSuS | hello guys. need some help here. I don't know what I have done to be facing this error: https://0bin.xyz/QTRVVB6IWKK6VLWHHFMWPNPVAA | 10:39 |
| ravage | try: apt clean; rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*; apt update | 10:41 |
| PeGaSuS | ravage: worked like a charm. thanks! | 10:54 |
| leo__ | hello | 11:17 |
| leo__ | any body here | 11:17 |
| kevr | no. | 11:17 |
| leo__ | I am totally new to this | 11:17 |
| kevr | leo__: I am joking. What's up? | 11:17 |
| leo__ | can u tell me where i am at? | 11:17 |
| leo__ | hahah i am fine thanks XD | 11:18 |
| leo__ | i dont even kow how this got installed lol | 11:18 |
| kevr | what | 11:18 |
| leo__ | this chatting app | 11:18 |
| kevr | you must have started up a program which connected to this channel | 11:18 |
| leo__ | hex chat | 11:18 |
| kevr | okay, so, hexchat | 11:18 |
| leo__ | yessss | 11:18 |
| kevr | you started up hexchat and connected here | 11:18 |
| leo__ | i dont recall installing it though hahah | 11:19 |
| kevr | it probably was installed by the default packages, because you likely did not choose a minimal install, it comes as part of common software one may wish to use | 11:19 |
| leo__ | i was installing a Cinnamon desktop env on my Ubuntu | 11:19 |
| leo__ | and maybe it came through that as a result? | 11:19 |
| leo__ | i also got chess or something | 11:19 |
| kevr | are you sure that this wasn't on your system **before** installing Cinnamon? | 11:19 |
| leo__ | yess i think so seems weird.. | 11:20 |
| leo__ | maybe i noticed it today | 11:20 |
| kevr | you think so, do you know? | 11:20 |
| leo__ | ithink it came through installing cinammon | 11:21 |
| kevr | if it was a dependency, then uninstalling hexchat should complain about the other programs being affected. you could look through there, or through your apt log to see at which point hexchat was installed | 11:21 |
| leo__ | cuz i saw some pigieon there | 11:21 |
| kevr | that's also a chat application | 11:21 |
| leo__ | btw we r in an app like discord | 11:21 |
| leo__ | or this is some forum thing? | 11:21 |
| kevr | may i ask | 11:21 |
| kevr | how did you become connected to this channel? did you launch hexchat and it just automatically connected here? | 11:21 |
| leo__ | yesss yesss u can ask lol | 11:21 |
| kevr | or did you connect? | 11:21 |
| leo__ | i opened hex chat and i pressed ok and ok so yea | 11:22 |
| leo__ | i connected | 11:22 |
| kevr | you pressed ok to what? | 11:22 |
| kevr | ok, and ok* | 11:22 |
| leo__ | it automtaically filled in my linux pc name "leo" | 11:22 |
| leo__ | to username places | 11:22 |
| leo__ | and i was like yea press ok | 11:23 |
| leo__ | is this a sockets program or something? | 11:23 |
| leo__ | a big group chat? | 11:23 |
| kevr | this is a general community support channel on IRC, the Internet Relay Chat protocol, which is hosted by Libera.chat in this case. This is a chatroom, yes. Whatever you installed or setup may just had connecting here as a default for users or something. | 11:23 |
| leo__ | yess slol | 11:23 |
| leo__ | but i never though communities like this exist today lol | 11:24 |
| leo__ | m feeling like m in 90s | 11:24 |
| leo__ | lmao | 11:24 |
| kevr | This channel is specifically here for conversation about getting something to work, or fixed, on the Ubuntu linux distribution. However, normally, users are expected to at least try to resolve it themselves through available documentation before asking in here about it. | 11:24 |
| kevr | also, every single community that exists today in chat rooms still uses this same idea; the only difference is how it is presented to you, really, as a user | 11:24 |
| leo__ | oh so its a helping community | 11:24 |
| kevr | discord, slack, whatever, they all have text going over the network | 11:25 |
| leo__ | yesssss | 11:25 |
| leo__ | but they are overwhelmed with | 11:25 |
| leo__ | emojis pics videos | 11:25 |
| leo__ | ths really gives 90s feeling | 11:25 |
| leo__ | i mean in a good way | 11:25 |
| kevr | that's because of how their frontend decides to display stuff to the user | 11:25 |
| leo__ | yessss i know lmao | 11:25 |
| kevr | you could take Discord data and present it in such a way that it looks exactly like this, if you wanted to | 11:25 |
| leo__ | yesssss | 11:25 |
| leo__ | can we send friend requests or something? | 11:26 |
| kevr | and yes, IRC was one of the more well-known original chat protocols on the net, and it remains reminiscent of its original style in most clients. | 11:26 |
| leo__ | btw i yesterday thought | 11:27 |
| leo__ | about leraning sockets | 11:27 |
| kevr | No. However, one part of etiquette in these chatrooms are staying on topic -- that is, this channel is for Ubuntu conversation, and so technically talking about IRC and what it is, is not completely on-topic here. There is much information around the internet you could use to learn about IRC; the information is plenty. | 11:27 |
| leo__ | specificallysockets in Java | 11:27 |
| leo__ | to build a simple chat group | 11:27 |
| leo__ | over my own network | 11:28 |
| leo__ | just for learning and fun | 11:28 |
| kevr | why not, go ahead | 11:28 |
| kevr | leo__: #ubuntu-offtopic seems to be a more suitable chatroom for this kind of talk, which is really just social conversation | 11:29 |
| leo__ | oh sorry for that i really am haha Howcan i join that? | 11:30 |
| leo__ | me so dumb and it feels like i am using internet for first time which i am not haha | 11:30 |
| kevr | You can type /join #ubuntu-offtopic in your IRC Client (hexchat). | 11:30 |
| kevr | leo__: welcome to IRC | 11:30 |
| leo__ | Thank u so much for the welcome and helping mate..U R the first person ever i have talked to here In IRC......!! | 11:31 |
| kevr | No problem at all. I hope you can find some nice community and use through IRC :) | 11:32 |
| eqw | Hello. Why there's no /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/block/loop.ko ? | 11:32 |
| leo__ | haha thanks kevr | 11:32 |
| tomreyn | eqw: there should be. which ubuntu release are you on, which linux-image-* packages are installed? | 11:33 |
| eqw | 5.15.0-71-generic or 4.4.0-134-generic neither have it | 11:34 |
| tomreyn | eqw: which ubuntu release are you on? | 11:35 |
| tomreyn | lsb_release -ds should tell | 11:36 |
| tomreyn | or cat /etc/os-release | 11:36 |
| eqw | 22.04.2 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) | 11:36 |
| eqw | `apt-file search loop.ko|grep /loop.ko` shows it only in linux-modules-5.15.0-*-kvm | 11:37 |
| tomreyn | first of all you should install all the pending updates | 11:38 |
| tomreyn | 4.4.0 is an outdated kernel image from a previous ubutnu release, jammy doesn't have this | 11:38 |
| tomreyn | 5.15.0-71-generic probably was in jammy at some point, but it's been a while | 11:39 |
| tomreyn | amd64 is at linux-image-5.15.0-91-generic | 11:39 |
| eqw | yes, 4.4.0 is another system, and it doesn't have loop.ko too which doesn't seem a mere coincidence | 11:39 |
| eqw | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-signed/linux-image-5.15.0-91-generic_5.15.0-91.101_amd64.deb doesn't contain /lib anyway | 11:42 |
| tomreyn | i think it would be in linux-modules-5.15.0-91-generic or linux-modules-extra-5.15.0-91-generic | 11:42 |
| eqw | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-modules-5.15.0-91-generic_5.15.0-91.101_amd64.deb has /lib but doesn't contain loop.ko | 11:44 |
| eqw | same applies to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-modules-extra-5.15.0-91-generic_5.15.0-91.101_amd64.deb | 11:45 |
| jeremy31 | eqw: try> modinfo loop | 11:45 |
| eqw | filename: (builtin) | 11:46 |
| eqw | i wonder why i'm getting "failed to set up loop device: No such device or address" then | 11:46 |
| tomreyn | maybe it'll be better to start from the beginning, and tell us what you're trying to do and why, which commands you ran, why your system is not updated? | 11:49 |
| eqw | i'm trying to `mknod /dev/loop51 b 7 51 ; losetup /dev/loop51 /path/to/file`. My system is not updated because updates can break something. | 11:52 |
| tomreyn | i'm looking at the losetup man page, which seems to suggest that losetup only accepts a single non option argument | 11:56 |
| eqw | losetup [-o offset] [--sizelimit size] [--sector-size size] [-Pr] [--show] -f loopdev file | 11:57 |
| tomreyn | right. maybe losetup -f /dev/loop51 /path/to/file is what you want? | 11:58 |
| eqw | "losetup: unexpected arguments" which seems strange | 12:00 |
| eqw | seems they changed the behaviour of losetup and didn't describe the change properly | 12:01 |
| tomreyn | --help say that what you tried to do should work | 12:02 |
| eqw | it worked in xenial | 12:04 |
| tomreyn | does /dev/loop51 actually exist after the mknod command? | 12:05 |
| tomreyn | do you run this as root? | 12:05 |
| tomreyn | does it have proper user / group ownerships + permissions? | 12:06 |
| eqw | yes it does exist. Yes I run it as root. | 12:07 |
| tomreyn | i guess the issue is somehow related to your /path/to/file or outdated system then. i just tried this on an up to date amd64 jammy VM and it worked. | 12:08 |
| tomreyn | this is what i ran: sudo mknod /dev/loop51 b 7 51 && sudo losetup /dev/loop51 /usr/share/doc/bash/README.gz | 12:11 |
| tomreyn | I got a warning: losetup: /usr/share/doc/bash/README.gz: Warning: file does not fit into a 512-byte sector; the end of the file will be ignored. | 12:11 |
| tomreyn | but the command succeeded nevertheless | 12:12 |
| eqw | my file is 10G so it's bigger than README.gz. That should not matter though | 12:13 |
| eqw | and it's readable, i've opened its beginning with hexedit | 12:13 |
| === david is now known as Guest9743 | ||
| === Guest9743 is now known as Lithmihl | ||
| kotgcGuest59 | Hello, anyone know how to fix an Ubuntu 22.04.3 black screen at boot? | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | !nomodeset | kotgcGuest59 you can try this | 12:32 |
| ubottu | kotgcGuest59 you can try this: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: after reaching to desktop, you will need to find the rootcause of your black screen | 12:33 |
| kotgcGuest59 | ubottu thx, I've tried nomodeset, same issue. Hardware worked fine until I swapped a storage disk. | 12:33 |
| kotgcGuest59 | lotuspsychje how do I find the root cause of the black screen? | 12:34 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: a good starting point would be sharing logs with the volunteers here, like dmesg or journal logs | 12:34 |
| kotgcGuest59 | lotuspsychje here's the journal logs, but from LiveUSB, as I only have grub access at boot. https://dpaste.com/HWJDNDFK9 | 12:36 |
| kotgcGuest59 | Boot log https://dpaste.com/EUB9D8LS3 | 12:36 |
| kotgcGuest59 | Casper log https://dpaste.com/89E34CCJ4 | 12:36 |
| kotgcGuest59 | Kern log https://dpaste.com/GNRPHAGNH | 12:37 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: those are just small parts of your logs, a full dmesg would be good | 12:37 |
| kotgcGuest59 | sys log https://dpaste.com/G8UQ5Y725 | 12:37 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: im seeing nouveau lines in there, are you booting to wayland or xorg? | 12:38 |
| kotgcGuest59 | xorg log https://dpaste.com/BC9YYPH6T | 12:38 |
| kotgcGuest59 | I can't get the full dmesg as the boot fails after 3 lines and goes to black screen. | 12:39 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: you didnt update to kernel 6.5 recently? | 12:39 |
| kotgcGuest59 | I don't know what Wayland is? Weyland Industries - "building a better future"? | 12:40 |
| kotgcGuest59 | lotuspsychje Ubuntu 22.04.3 was on the latest update. | 12:41 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: at login, the user can choose between xorg or wayland, default your desktop wants to pick wayland | 12:41 |
| kotgcGuest59 | lotuspsychje ok, whatever the Ubuntu 22.04.3 default is. | 12:41 |
| lotuspsychje | and nvidia doesnt like wayland | 12:41 |
| kotgcGuest59 | Ok, however Ubuntu was fine until I changed a storage disk 3 to a LinuxMint OS. SSD3 booted LM nicely, passing a test after an electrical storm on 25th December 2023. However replacing the SSD3 with the original storage disk, the black screen issue appeared. | 12:43 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: we can only support ubuntu and its flavours here, no mint | 12:43 |
| kotgcGuest59 | lotuspsychje sure, I'm not asking for LM support. This is an Ubuntu issue. | 12:43 |
| lotuspsychje | ok | 12:44 |
| kotgcGuest59 | The description of the cause of the issue is why LM is mentioned. | 12:44 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: see if you can reach into grub/recoverymode and fix broken packages from there (make sure your system is uptodate) and get in your desktop with failsafe graphics | 12:44 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: after that, logout to gdm and pick Xorg to boot in | 12:45 |
| lotuspsychje | and doublecheck with graphics drivers are loaded, nouveau vs nvidia | 12:45 |
| kotgcGuest59 | lotuspsychje wow, that sounds like a plan but is beyone my noob skills. | 12:45 |
| lotuspsychje | kotgcGuest59: enter grub is easy | 12:45 |
| kotgcGuest59 | Yes, I can manage grub. | 12:45 |
| kotgcGuest59 | ...the following steps look tricky. | 12:46 |
| lotuspsychje | from grub, you can get into recoverymode, enable networking and drop to a rootshell | 12:46 |
| lotuspsychje | do your updates from there | 12:46 |
| lotuspsychje | or other tasks the volunteers here can help you with | 12:46 |
| kotgcGuest59 | oh, there's no network in grub, as Ubuntu runs a network from a KVM. Curiously, the LiveUSB has network. | 12:46 |
| kotgcGuest59 | I can run updates from LiveUSB in chroot. | 12:47 |
| DiogoConstantino | hi all! | 13:12 |
| SteelRose | Hi DiogoConstantino | 13:15 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:18 |
| Guest39 | hello | 13:31 |
| Guest39 | peepee poopoo? | 13:31 |
| Guest39 | halves | 13:32 |
| Guest39 | kindos | 13:32 |
| Guest39 | ballsy | 13:32 |
| Guest39 | randome | 13:32 |
| lotuspsychje | stop that Guest39 | 13:32 |
| Guest39 | oh there is people here | 13:33 |
| Guest39 | im sorry | 13:33 |
| Guest39 | hey buddy | 13:33 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest39: this channel is for ubuntu support issues only | 13:34 |
| Guest39 | i use arch btw | 13:34 |
| Guest39 | bye. the nurse is giving me a bath | 13:35 |
| zetheroo | tomreyn: it's happening again, and there's nothing interesting from dmesg or journal. | 14:04 |
| zetheroo | oerheks: no updates available here for Transmission. | 14:06 |
| zetheroo | What this "feels" like is that the WiFi driver (?) is crashing/stalling. It only happens when there is a high amount of data transfer in/out of ~20MB/s or more. | 14:07 |
| anshparmar | ansh1234 | 14:08 |
| anshparmar | sudo apt install wine-development | 14:08 |
| anshparmar | { | 14:09 |
| zetheroo | I say this because in System Monitor I can see CPU and RAM continuing on stable, while the Network traffic nosedives and stays at zero until the system unfreezes. | 14:09 |
| === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ | ||
| zetheroo | Also, around the time of freezing up I see this from journalctl: wpa_supplicant[1757]: wlp3s0: WPA: Group rekeying completed with 1c:ed:6f:c7:10:60 [GTK=CCMP] | 14:18 |
| zetheroo | As if the WiFi is re-authenticating | 14:18 |
| jeremy31 | zetheroo: URL from terminal for> iwconfig|nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:23 |
| zetheroo | https://termbin.com/tsud | 14:26 |
| jeremy31 | zetheroo: URL> cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf|nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:28 |
| zetheroo | https://termbin.com/x6pr | 14:30 |
| jeremy31 | zetheroo: run this> sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | 14:35 |
| zetheroo | jeremy31: Ah I see - 2 disables power-saving | 14:35 |
| zetheroo | OK, I've also restarted NetworkManager. I'll try some stuff again and see how it goes. | 14:37 |
| zetheroo | Wifi just "crashed" again. | 14:48 |
| zetheroo | This is what it looks like in the System Monitor https://ibb.co/c6NyDpY | 14:55 |
| zetheroo | and here it is happening multiple times https://ibb.co/NCkR6b1 | 14:56 |
| zetheroo | If I limit the download speed in Transmission to ~15MB/s the freezes don't happen. | 14:56 |
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| zetheroo | hmm ... scratch that. here is it happening with 15MB/s https://ibb.co/KsXBfkh | 15:00 |
| zetheroo | But for some reason I don't actually feel the system freezing up | 15:00 |
| zetheroo | This is with Transmission creating the network traffic. I'm going to try with just copying data to/from my NAS over Files. | 15:01 |
| zetheroo | I see this repeatedly in my system logs: wpa_supplicant[1757]: wlp3s0: WPA: Group rekeying completed with 1c:ed:6f:c7:10:60 [GTK=CCMP] | 15:14 |
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| jeremy31 | zetheroo1: Something similar in my logs, every 10 minutes, likely normal. Might be IP lease | 15:35 |
| zetheroo1 | ok, and what about this? https://pastebin.com/9HYsfWxQ | 15:36 |
| zetheroo1 | I wonder if the WiFi connection would be more stable using 2.4Ghz vs 5Ghz | 15:41 |
| jeremy31 | zetheroo1: URL for> grep [[:alnum:]] /sys/module/iwlwifi/parameters/* | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:44 |
| zetheroo1 | https://termbin.com/3p50 | 15:44 |
| jeremy31 | zetheroo1: Might be as good as it gets | 15:49 |
| tomreyn | zetheroo1: which transmission version do you have there? apt list transmission | 15:54 |
| zetheroo1 | tomreyn: transmission/jammy-updates,jammy-updates 3.00-2ubuntu2.1 all | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | zetheroo1: okay, this seems ot be the latest for jammy | 16:10 |
| tomreyn | zetheroo1: my guess is on some form of resource starvation, maybesome IRQ related issue, but those are difficult to diagnose (or maybe i just don't know enough about it). had you tried a bios upgrade? | 16:12 |
| tomreyn | also try the hwe kernel | 16:13 |
| zetheroo1 | I haven't done a bios upgrade in a while. | 16:14 |
| tomreyn | you have JBET73WW (1.37 ) 08/14/2019 | 16:14 |
| tomreyn | thats the latest available | 16:16 |
| zetheroo1 | seems that's the latest version :) | 16:16 |
| zetheroo1 | How about this HWE kernel. Is that something I need to add another repo for? | 16:16 |
| tomreyn | no, you only need to sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-20.04 | 16:18 |
| tomreyn | or was it 22.04? | 16:18 |
| tomreyn | depending on what you are running | 16:18 |
| zetheroo1 | I have 22.04 | 16:18 |
| zetheroo1 | ok | 16:18 |
| tomreyn | sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04 then | 16:18 |
| zetheroo1 | ok, it's installed. Going to reboot now. | 16:21 |
| zetheroo | Ok, back after reboot. Going to run some more tests with the HWE kernel. | 16:33 |
| tomreyn | zetheroo: did you verify you're running the newer kernel version now? | 16:39 |
| zetheroo | yes | 16:41 |
| zetheroo | Linux eb-T420 6.5.0-14-generic #14~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Nov 20 18:15:30 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 16:41 |
| oerheks | and latest transmission update? transmission_3.00-2ubuntu2.1 | 16:42 |
| tomreyn | <zetheroo1> tomreyn: transmission/jammy-updates,jammy-updates 3.00-2ubuntu2.1 all | 16:42 |
| oerheks | oke, just checking after last night. | 16:43 |
| tomreyn | hmm, actually it did not say it was installed | 16:43 |
| tomreyn | zetheroo: what does this say? apt list --installed transmission | 16:43 |
| zetheroo | 'sudo apt info transmission' shows 'Version: 3.00-2ubuntu2.1' | 16:43 |
| tomreyn | okay that seems to cnfirm you have the latest | 16:44 |
| zetheroo | there is goes again https://ibb.co/BKRkGLb | 16:47 |
| zetheroo | I guess that's just the way it is for me :/ | 16:47 |
| tomreyn | and the entire system freezes when this happens? | 16:48 |
| tomreyn | or is the only thing that happens that you get 0 throughput? | 16:48 |
| tomreyn | on the wireless network link | 16:49 |
| zetheroo | Sometimes everything freezes up completely, sometimes it's a few apps that are unresponsive and others which are semi-responsive. | 16:49 |
| zetheroo | and nothing interesting output to journalctl -f either | 16:49 |
| zetheroo | can it not write anything to the log because it's freezing up? | 16:50 |
| tomreyn | it would write it later when recovering, if so | 16:50 |
| zetheroo | hmm ok | 16:50 |
| tomreyn | do you have irqbalance installed? | 16:51 |
| oerheks | maybe it is because you torrent wireless, i presume | 16:51 |
| zetheroo | not sure - I don't recall installing it | 16:51 |
| zetheroo | seems it's already installed | 16:52 |
| tomreyn | and this is running on the main operating system, not in a VM, right? | 16:53 |
| zetheroo | correct | 16:53 |
| zetheroo | no VMs running here | 16:53 |
| tomreyn | maybe try running iotop or iostat in a loop | 16:54 |
| tomreyn | vmstat in a loo or sar may also hint on what's causing it | 16:55 |
| zetheroo | with 'watch'? | 16:55 |
| tomreyn | well, you'd want to be able to compare the latest to previous outputs | 16:55 |
| tomreyn | if we assume it is somehow related to the wireless link, you could also have a look at sudo ip -s link | 16:56 |
| tomreyn | there should not be lots of "errors" or "dropped" for the wireless on RX or TX | 16:57 |
| zetheroo | like this? https://pastebin.com/tMbNP2zF | 16:58 |
| tomreyn | that's fine | 16:58 |
| tomreyn | although you sent more than you received, interesting | 16:59 |
| zetheroo | I'm also uploading to my home server | 16:59 |
| tomreyn | at the same time you are trying to do bittorrent? also through wireless? | 17:00 |
| tomreyn | get a wire | 17:00 |
| zetheroo | Yes. But the feezing up happens also with just a single torrent being downloaded. | 17:01 |
| zetheroo | Yeah, I could plug in, but ... meh | 17:01 |
| tomreyn | do you know how the bittoreent protocol work? | 17:01 |
| tomreyn | s | 17:01 |
| zetheroo | Not entirely, no | 17:01 |
| zetheroo | btw, I have the seeding massively limited, whereas the downloading isn't at all. | 17:02 |
| tomreyn | you connect to multiple peers to download from, at the same time. also other connect to you to download from you (i.e. you upload) the data you are offering. | 17:02 |
| zetheroo | Yeah, that much I know. :) | 17:04 |
| tomreyn | keeping connections open to many other ends can stress out the system, as can trying to both download and upload through a congested link | 17:04 |
| zetheroo | I assume so. I just wish it were easier to see where the bottleneck is. | 17:04 |
| tomreyn | wireless is a rather error-prone connectivity, data keeps failing to transfer and need sto be retransmitted all the time. ethernet i a lot more stable | 17:04 |
| zetheroo | For sure. | 17:05 |
| GrandPa-G | I am struggling getting write permissions on samba share for windows 11 desktop. I can read but not write. Here is smb.conf, mount and permissions. What am I doing wrong? https://dpaste.com/EVFW539PD | 17:05 |
| rbox | is it a share from samba or from widnows? | 17:07 |
| rbox | where is cifs/smbfs? | 17:07 |
| GrandPa-G | the share is on samba. It is actually on a Raspberry pi zero. | 17:08 |
| rbox | oh, you're trying to write from windows? | 17:08 |
| GrandPa-G | correct | 17:08 |
| GrandPa-G | it is a mounted partition on the pi zero | 17:09 |
| rbox | if the permission are 777 on the driectory, does it work? | 17:09 |
| GrandPa-G | no | 17:10 |
| GrandPa-G | shouldn't this change the directory sudo chmod 777 /mnt/usb_share | 17:11 |
| GrandPa-G | ? it gives me drwxr-xr-x 3 usb usb 4096 Dec 31 1969 usb_share | 17:11 |
| rbox | you can't chmod on a vfat | 17:11 |
| oerheks | GrandPa-G, see force user = myuser > https://askubuntu.com/questions/1466607/how-do-i-get-write-access-to-samba-share-from-guest-account-without-setting-perm | 17:11 |
| GrandPa-G | oerheks, can I change something so I don't come in as guest? just take out guest ok? | 17:13 |
| oerheks | no, typo | 17:15 |
| GrandPa-G | Folks, I just added force user = and it works. Thanks | 17:15 |
| oerheks | is this a typo?writable = true | 17:15 |
| oerheks | writeable | 17:15 |
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| GrandPa-G | cut/paste kills you every time. Thanks for that. | 17:16 |
| GrandPa-G | oerheks, still needs the force= | 17:17 |
| GrandPa-G | FYI - I have a pi zero as gadget. Also, when I put something on its share, the pi zero makes the gadget appear as if it was newly plugged in. I have machine that will recognize that and process the file. It only does it when the flash drive looks like it just was plugged in. | 17:20 |
| lunatiq | How to install TLS? | 18:05 |
| rbox | that doestn really make any sense | 18:05 |
| rbox | what are you actually trying to do | 18:05 |
| lunatiq | use znc but get error in paralver they said its a tls issue on handshake from ubuntu | 18:05 |
| lunatiq | just trying to use client to connect to my znc on ubuntu | 18:06 |
| rbox | huh? | 18:06 |
| lunatiq | What don't you understand? | 18:07 |
| rbox | "i get error" "they said" | 18:11 |
| lunatiq | developers of paraler channel | 18:12 |
| lunatiq | DomainSSL error | 18:12 |
| tomreyn | chances are that "paraler" and "paralver" refer to https://palaverapp.com/ an iOS IRC client, as I just learnt. | 18:24 |
| Habbie | lunatiq, can you show us the error? | 18:26 |
| tomreyn | lunatiq: if you are looking for help with configuring your znc running on ubuntu with an X.509 certificate for TLS, a better place to get help with this may be in #znc. we probably won't be able to help with configuring palaver. | 18:27 |
| lubuntu_ | hi all | 19:13 |
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| kostkon | lubuntu_, hi | 19:27 |
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| acidburn87 | hi any people for ipxe dev support here? | 21:06 |
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