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| cpaelzer | Hiho party people | 15:29 |
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| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 15:29 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) | 15:29 |
| cpaelzer | I know I'm early, but wanted to get the ping out in time | 15:30 |
| slyon | o/ | 15:30 |
| eslerm | hello o/ | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | wow | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | the new nvidia driver is wanted a lot | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | I'm not in the mood to count the lines | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | but those are normal, no new MIR needed and the team handles them well | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | no action needed | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-cssselect/+bug/2048760 is open | 15:31 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2048760 in python-cssselect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-cssselect" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 15:31 | |
| cpaelzer | I guess we will see that later as it seems ready for review | 15:32 |
| slyon | yes | 15:32 |
| joalif | o/ | 15:32 |
| eslerm | (just curious, how would I run mismatch on an arbitrary universe package to see its MIR requirements) | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | dkim-perl is known and still worked on by mirespace | 15:32 |
| sarnold | good morning | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir?tab=readme-ov-file#tools | 15:33 |
| eslerm | thanks! | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | IIRC I wrote my own as it wasn't doing recursive needs | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | not sure anymore, it was long long ago | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | it is the right start | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | the rest in mismatches is also known | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | python-infelct | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | the same cssselect | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | and known logcheck->esmtp | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | going on in the agenda ... | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | as assumed | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-cssselect/+bug/2048760 | 15:34 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2048760 in python-cssselect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-cssselect" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 15:34 | |
| cpaelzer | and also | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnet-idn-encode-perl/+bug/2038929 | 15:34 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2038929 in libnet-idn-encode-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnet-idn-encode-perl (as libmail-dmarc-perl dependency)" [Undecided, New] | 15:34 | |
| cpaelzer | let me read the discussion ont he latter | 15:34 |
| slyon | I assume the latter could be WONTFIX, as mirespace changed the reverse-dependency, so that it is no longer needed | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | yeah that is how I read the comments too | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | The former looks for a reviewer | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-cssselect/+bug/2048760 | 15:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2048760 in python-cssselect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-cssselect" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 15:37 | |
| cpaelzer | we have slyon and me and it is slyon's case ... avoiding self-review I think I have to take this one | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | While I have more sprint things to prep that should squeeze in well (hope dies last) | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:38 |
| slyon | The MIR templated used here ^ is a bit outdated. mkukri is willing to update it if needed. But overall the package seems to be in good shape, so we should be fine reviewing as-is, IMO | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:38 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: joalif was also waving above | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | oh, blind me | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | indeed | 15:38 |
| joalif | I was about to write the same :p | 15:38 |
| * cpaelzer opens eyes | 15:38 | |
| joalif | I can take one | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | I've seen the security folks and slyon - sorry joalif | 15:38 |
| joalif | no worries | 15:38 |
| slyon | squeezing it in between a sprint, might not be the best idea | 15:38 |
| joalif | i was abit late to the party | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | passed cssselect to you then joalif | 15:39 |
| joalif | ok | 15:39 |
| slyon | thx joalif! | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | I'll need to thank you in my sprint presentation somehow now ... | 15:39 |
| sarnold | :) | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538 | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2015538 in dbus-broker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-broker" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:39 | |
| mkukri | i unfortunately didnt have time to impove python3-cssselect today, but will have it done by next week | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | That is a Debian maintainer and upstream systemd contributor offering to help | 15:40 |
| eslerm | I asked SEG and there wasn't extra capacity to take dbus-brokers wrapper | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | But it will still be O-release | 15:40 |
| slyon | mkukri: please coordinate with joalif about that (maybe it's not needed) | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: interesting, what was the answer? | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | it is kind of a very soon or in 24.10 atm right? | 15:41 |
| eslerm | it was a favor request, they mentioned that they were tight on people but someone *might* be interested to take it on | 15:41 |
| eslerm | adding the wrapper likely needs to go on a roadmap | 15:41 |
| sarnold | yeah, and it's a large enough change that even if it were done today, I think there'd be serious questions about switching to it now | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | by not finding time we are also becoming one of the few that have not yet switched :-/ | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | fedora changed ages ago, arch did announce the same last week | 15:42 |
| sarnold | err .. the first "large change" is switching dbus implementations; the second "it were done today" was the (presumably) smallish wrapper | 15:42 |
| eslerm | Security eyeballed how much work the wrapper would take during the review. There's a little bit of process state handling, but not much | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | maybe the link is worth adding to second the rationale? | 15:42 |
| eslerm | I can | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | I'll add it | 15:43 |
| slyon | dbus-broker was mostly driven by desktop. I wonder if seb128 is interested in merging v35 (even though it's in universe)? Just to keep it up to date | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | I still doubt this can happen without Desktop finding and dedicating resources to it | 15:44 |
| slyon | adding the wrapper is another story then | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | ack | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | in the context of the MIR meeting this is interesting but not blocking us | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | would one ping Seb and others to ensure they reconsider it again as it is kind of the last chance to do so? | 15:45 |
| slyon | I can | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | thx | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | no new entries | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | some wnated to discuss offline about base-sets | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | any major change already on that front? | 15:46 |
| eslerm | some in Foundations MM | 15:47 |
| eslerm | not a major roadmap item atm, but there is related work to do | 15:47 |
| slyon | verdict was that the Foundations toolchain squad does not have capacity to work on it this cycle, but security might start working on some relevant tooling | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | thanks for the update | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | There seem to be 6 in TODO+Backlog | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | given that we are closing in towards FF and with a bit more distance towards release | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | could security do a spike to get those handled? | 15:48 |
| eslerm | I'm training the certs/fips folks for MIRs after this meeting (libgssglue) and setting up similar meeting for fdk-aac-free | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | well, that is great to hear | 15:49 |
| eslerm | the perl ones are more or less done, it would be nice if another perl one was ready | 15:49 |
| eslerm | libmysofa is still in upstream's hands iiuc | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | libmail-mime-perl is in TODO | 15:49 |
| eslerm | openscap is a backlog security task (not for MIR) | 15:49 |
| eslerm | I'm not aware of roc-toolkit yet | 15:49 |
| * eslerm looks | 15:49 | |
| cpaelzer | arr, that was one that was switched away | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | you might want to remove the card in your jira though | 15:50 |
| slyon | eslerm: I finished roc-toolkit MIR review today. It's ready for security review | 15:50 |
| eslerm | \o/ | 15:50 |
| eslerm | I'll try to assign it this week | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | I'll ping mirespace if there are any more perl MIRs waiting to get them to us asap for you to be able to use them for training | 15:50 |
| eslerm | thank you | 15:51 |
| eslerm | Andrei has worked up a perl fuzzing process for those | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | ok, I pinged mirespace about it | 15:52 |
| eslerm | perl turns out not to be great for training though :) | 15:52 |
| mirespace | cpaelzer: They all are submitted | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | ah | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | well, great | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | afte rso many months of yet another no one thought of that to be possible :-) | 15:52 |
| mirespace | hehe... well, let's see how libcryptX evolves :( | 15:52 |
| sarnold | mirespace: woo :) nice work working those through :) | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | mirespace: libcryptx was the bad one enmbedding another version of a lib right? | 15:53 |
| mirespace | thanks sarnold! :$ | 15:53 |
| mirespace | yes, that one | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | *sigh* | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | why can't things ever be easy | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | mirespace: hmm, reading the comment | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | it seems you wait for us on this | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | but by being assigned to you it won't show up in any query | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | let me löink it here | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | for us to have a look now | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcryptx-perl/+bug/2046154 | 15:54 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2046154 in libcryptx-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libcryptx-perl (libmail-dkim-perl dependency)" [Undecided, New] | 15:54 | |
| cpaelzer | I'd appreciate we all could have a look to conclude on ways forward | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | option #1 sounds even worse :-/ | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | for #2 - sad that even that ed25519 uses the embedded tomcrypt | 15:56 |
| eslerm | I'll bring this LP up during the fips/certs mir training | 15:56 |
| slyon | maybe adrien does have an opinion on that? | 15:56 |
| cpaelzer | I see how #3 is the easiest, but OTOH the one taking way the function users want from this whole stack of tools | 15:57 |
| eslerm | slyon: I'll ask | 15:57 |
| mirespace | I'm working on trying to separate ed255519 from dkim itself at putting it like recommend... there is a sodium based perl lib that that handles also ed255519, but is pretty abandoned | 15:57 |
| cpaelzer | I think I miss #4 - make this an optional dependency, so that some encryptions work out of the bux and others are a suggest to a universe package | 15:58 |
| mirespace | (sorry, I put a extra that ) | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer | really I'd love to see adriens and eslerm (after bringing it up) thoughts on this | 15:58 |
| sarnold | I'd love to know if they're abandoned because they are working fine and don't need maintaining, or if they're so busted that the authors gave up :( | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer | after all they might say "ok, while not great - using it as is is the least bad option" | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer | I mean I found that the embedded lib is more up to date than the lib itself | 15:59 |
| sarnold | ha | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer | time is running out | 15:59 |
| mirespace | (sorry, I need to drop ... thank you all) | 15:59 |
| sarnold | bye mirespace :) thanks | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer | looking forwadr to seeing your comment on the case later on | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer | we all need to drop ... | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 16:00 |
| sarnold | noen here | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer | last minute urgent things? | 16:00 |
| slyon | nope | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer | not from me | 16:00 |
| joalif | none from me | 16:00 |
| eslerm | thanks all o/ | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer | nice, over and out | 16:00 |
| slyon | thanks cpaelzer, all! | 16:00 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:00:25 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-01-16-15.29.moin.txt | 16:00 |
| joalif | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 16:00 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ | 19:58 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:58 |
| amurray | o/ | 20:00 |
| seb128 | o/ | 20:02 |
| seb128 | ah, according to the agenda it seems like I'm the chair today | 20:03 |
| seb128 | sorry for being a bit late | 20:03 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board | 20:04 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 20:04:01 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20:04 |
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| seb128 | #topic Apologies | 20:04 |
| seb128 | amurray is the only one who refused the calendar event but he seems around? | 20:05 |
| seb128 | no email on the list from what I can see | 20:05 |
| seb128 | #topic Action review | 20:05 |
| amurray | vorlon mentioned in a private channel that he would be afk | 20:05 |
| seb128 | ok | 20:05 |
| seb128 | ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil2100 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 20:05 |
| eslerm | amurray is ooo on my calendar | 20:06 |
| seb128 | right, I said that :) | 20:06 |
| amurray | i'm here ;) | 20:06 |
| seb128 | so on the tracks usage, I replied to a comment | 20:07 |
| seb128 | unsure what is missing for us to be able to move forward from where we are | 20:07 |
| seb128 | amurray, any opinion on what should be the next steps there? | 20:07 |
| amurray | yeah I am also a bit unsure - I wonder if we need a google meet session or similar to review the remaining comments as a group? | 20:08 |
| amurray | or we need to engage the store team to figure out if they can support the requirements | 20:09 |
| seb128 | ok, let's carry over and I will take an action item to set up a meeting specifically to discuss that topic | 20:10 |
| seb128 | including other stakeholders if needed | 20:10 |
| seb128 | #action: seb128/amurray/sil2100 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 20:10 |
| amurray | thanks | 20:11 |
| seb128 | #action: seb128 to organize a meeting to unblock the draft of the tracks usage section | 20:11 |
| sil2100 | Apologies, I got totally distracted | 20:11 |
| seb128 | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 20:11 |
| seb128 | sil2100, hey! | 20:11 |
| rbasak | Carry over please | 20:11 |
| seb128 | #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 20:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 20:11 |
| seb128 | ACTION: rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps | 20:12 |
| rbasak | Also carry over sorry | 20:12 |
| seb128 | #action rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps | 20:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps | 20:12 |
| seb128 | ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 20:12 |
| rbasak | Same | 20:12 |
| seb128 | #action rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 20:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 20:12 |
| seb128 | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:12 |
| seb128 | carrying over that one also | 20:12 |
| seb128 | #action seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:12 |
| seb128 | #action vorlon to write up draft guidelines for packages in the archive that download from the Internet | 20:13 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to write up draft guidelines for packages in the archive that download from the Internet | 20:13 |
| seb128 | I'm carrying that one over since I didn't see an update and Steve is not here | 20:13 |
| seb128 | ACTION: seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request | 20:13 |
| seb128 | I didn't see a reply, I need to nudge them so I'm carrying it over | 20:14 |
| seb128 | #action seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request | 20:14 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request | 20:14 |
| seb128 | ACTION: sil2100 to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Ubuntu Studio 24.04 | 20:14 |
| seb128 | that's done, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002846.html | 20:15 |
| sil2100 | Done! | 20:15 |
| sil2100 | Indeed | 20:15 |
| seb128 | good to have one item done :) | 20:15 |
| seb128 | ACTION: amurray to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Edubuntu 24.04 | 20:15 |
| seb128 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002845.html | 20:16 |
| seb128 | done | 20:16 |
| sil2100 | ;) I think amurray did his as well! | 20:16 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 20:16 |
| amurray | yep | 20:16 |
| seb128 | ACTION: seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu budgie on 24.04 request | 20:16 |
| seb128 | I didn't get a reply here either so need to nudge them | 20:16 |
| seb128 | #action seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu budgie on 24.04 request | 20:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu budgie on 24.04 request | 20:16 |
| seb128 | ACTION: amurray to follow-up with ubuntu kylin on 24.04 request | 20:16 |
| seb128 | that happened as well I think? | 20:17 |
| amurray | sorry I think I need to carry this over | 20:17 |
| seb128 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002844.html ? | 20:17 |
| seb128 | or was there another follow up needed? | 20:17 |
| amurray | gah yes I forgot | 20:17 |
| seb128 | I overlooked that in my backlog, I will add my vote after the meeting | 20:18 |
| sil2100 | I think I did vote, right? | 20:18 |
| seb128 | yes, and Steve | 20:18 |
| seb128 | I'm going to send my +1 in a bit | 20:19 |
| seb128 | amurray, I'm giving you an action item to send the confirmation of the vote result then if that's ok? | 20:19 |
| amurray | yes thats fine | 20:19 |
| seb128 | #action amurray to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Ubuntu Kylin 24.04 | 20:19 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amurray to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Ubuntu Kylin 24.04 | 20:19 |
| seb128 | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 20:20 |
| seb128 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/date.html | 20:20 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ :) | 20:20 |
| seb128 | we have a request from Lubuntu to be LTS | 20:20 |
| seb128 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002849.html | 20:21 |
| sil2100 | Since I finished mine, maybe I could get assigned to it then | 20:22 |
| seb128 | sil2100, what would be the action item? | 20:22 |
| seb128 | the request seems reasonable so maybe we just need to vote? | 20:22 |
| sil2100 | We can, but I didn't read it! Yet | 20:22 |
| seb128 | sil2100, but thanks, let me add an action to review and call for a vote? | 20:23 |
| seb128 | #action sil2100 to review the lubuntu LTS participation request and follow up as appropriate (question or call for vote) | 20:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 to review the lubuntu LTS participation request and follow up as appropriate (question or call for vote) | 20:23 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm happy to answer any questions here or at a later point about Lubuntu's application. :) | 20:23 |
| seb128 | sil2100, ^ sounds fine? | 20:23 |
| sil2100 | Looks fine o/ Are you and amurray ready to vote as is? | 20:24 |
| amurray | yes | 20:24 |
| seb128 | I want to read the emails again since I only glanced over them but it feels like it is ready | 20:24 |
| seb128 | let's just do a call for vote on the list rather than trying to do it here today | 20:25 |
| seb128 | did any of you had questions here today for tsimonq2 since he joined the meeting for us? | 20:25 |
| sil2100 | I'm leaving it up to you. I'd like someone to do a proper review of it - if someone already did it, I'm fine with voting | 20:25 |
| seb128 | no need to rush I would say | 20:26 |
| amurray | no, his email is very detailed and covers everything I would have wanted to know | 20:26 |
| seb128 | you have an action item | 20:26 |
| seb128 | we can call for vote on the list once you have reviewed it | 20:26 |
| seb128 | no question from me either | 20:26 |
| sil2100 | Ok o/ | 20:26 |
| seb128 | tsimonq2, no question it seems but thanks for taking the time to join the meeting in case we had some | 20:27 |
| seb128 | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 20:27 |
| tsimonq2 | Hey, one more thing on this topic, briefly... | 20:27 |
| seb128 | tsimonq2, sure? | 20:27 |
| seb128 | (no activity on the community bugs and techboard bugs) | 20:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Actually, two, sorry. I noted lack of cooperation generally speaking on that email, and I've seen a drastic change for the better. I still have some (genuine) questions around the SRU Team given recent events, but I'm planning a postmorteum on virtualbox anyway. | 20:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Also, I appointed Aaron and Dan as assistant release managers, there's no direct action required from the TB, but a "hey we see this" would be great. :) | 20:29 |
| rbasak | Well I asked and was told that no response was expected? | 20:29 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes :) I'm glad you saw it, just making a general point to it. | 20:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Anyway, those are the points I have, happy to answer any questions. | 20:30 |
| seb128 | I'm not aware the SRU team situation you are referencing to but it doesn't seem to be a TB topic at this point? | 20:30 |
| seb128 | aware of* | 20:31 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure either. | 20:31 |
| tsimonq2 | My general point is, asking for requalification is a two-way agreement. We are happy to provide support for Lubuntu, the only reason I brought it up is to ensure we have support on the other side to be able to move the needle forward. | 20:32 |
| seb128 | tsimonq2, and I've seen the email about the assistant release managers :-) | 20:32 |
| tsimonq2 | seb128: thanks :) | 20:32 |
| seb128 | ok, so seems there is no question/action there but thanks for mentioning those! | 20:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes of course :) | 20:32 |
| seb128 | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members) | 20:32 |
| rbasak | I wonder if there's an opportunity to be talking more via the flavour syncs or something similar | 20:33 |
| vorlon | I promise I'll be here in time for the next one so you can keep me as chair ;) | 20:33 |
| seb128 | next in the list is Steve and Lukasz as backup | 20:33 |
| rbasak | Because I'm seeing noises, but without specifics, I'm not in a position to be able to help at all. | 20:33 |
| seb128 | vorlon, hey, and thanks! | 20:33 |
| seb128 | rbasak, yes, the flavor syncs is a good venue for project discussions with flavor | 20:35 |
| seb128 | flavors | 20:35 |
| tsimonq2 | As far as I'm aware, the TB has an open invite to the Flavor Syncs. If you talk to the Community Team (specifically ilvipero_), he should be able to get you an invite. | 20:35 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 20:35 |
| rbasak | Please do arrange for the SRU team and/or TB to be invited if there's a specific agenda item you have in mind that you'd like to discuss | 20:35 |
| tsimonq2 | Absolutely, just finishing with my notes on this one. Thanks :) | 20:36 |
| seb128 | I usually try to join at least the European tz compatible meeting and I think sil2100 has been to some of those as well | 20:36 |
| rbasak | I'm not aware of having been invited recently | 20:37 |
| tsimonq2 | That sounds like a mistake to me :) | 20:37 |
| seb128 | I think it's an open venue, ask Mauro to be added to the calendar invite if you wish to join | 20:37 |
| seb128 | I usually join as a desktop representative, afaik we didn't have any formal request to have TB members there before | 20:38 |
| seb128 | but I think we should at least review the invite list according to the topics on the agenda | 20:38 |
| seb128 | that's not a meeting the TB own though, but I will still try to ensure we invite the right people | 20:39 |
| NotEickmeyer | Just pinged the appropriate people to get you all invites. :) | 20:39 |
| === NotEickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer | ||
| seb128 | :) | 20:39 |
| Eickmeyer | My IRC client with issues. :) | 20:39 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 20:39 |
| seb128 | ok, I think that should be enough for that topic then | 20:39 |
| seb128 | another other topic? | 20:40 |
| seb128 | giving 3 min and if not then it's a wrap | 20:40 |
| tsimonq2 | rbasak: I understand it's an action item, but an additional poke on the DMB inactivity stuff :) | 20:41 |
| amurray | nothing from me | 20:41 |
| tsimonq2 | I did get frightened for a minute at Aaron's MOTU meeting. | 20:41 |
| * tsimonq2 is good | 20:41 | |
| rbasak | tsimonq2: I've not been focused on that because it's usually worked out recently | 20:42 |
| rbasak | If people start getting near the threshold then I'll definitely prioritise that | 20:42 |
| tsimonq2 | Okay :) | 20:42 |
| seb128 | alright, seems we are done then | 20:43 |
| rbasak | Also it was very close to the New Year and I'd expect some disruption/unavailability around then. | 20:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Very true. | 20:43 |
| seb128 | thanks everyone!! | 20:43 |
| seb128 | let's wrap? | 20:43 |
| rbasak | The plans won't change that since it's only sustained absence that would be actionable | 20:43 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm okay wrapping, I believe we're on the same page. | 20:44 |
| seb128 | ok, it's a wrap then, thanks everyone! | 20:44 |
| sil2100 | Yeah, I need to apologize for missing out many DMB meetings lately | 20:44 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 20:45 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 20:45:05 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-01-16-20.04.moin.txt | 20:45 |
| sil2100 | It's been so many Mondays that I just haven't been around | 20:45 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 20:45 |
| amurray | o/ | 20:45 |
| seb128 | sorry for being half around in that DMB meeting, I was sick on that day but still joined to be able to have quorum but I didn't manage to stick around all the time | 20:45 |
| Eickmeyer | seb128: You came in clutch, so you're more than forgiven from all sides, I'm sure. :D | 20:46 |
| seb128 | :-) | 20:46 |
| tsimonq2 | Agreed :) | 20:46 |
| Eickmeyer | seb128: And never apologize for being sick. I've had to say that to subordinates I've had in the past. | 20:47 |
| Eickmeyer | (not that you're subordinate to me, but the point still stands) | 20:48 |
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