=== jp is now known as jp__ [00:22] they may not support the current gtk theme properly === docmax is now known as Guest7766 === ingrim7 is now known as ingrim === shlom is now known as VlA === VlA is now known as V1A === JoeBk_ is now known as JoeBk === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === shlom is now known as VlA === VlA is now known as V1A === five6184800 is now known as five618480 [04:04] In ubuntu when I run journalctl and type G it no longer jumps to the last line [04:04] why is this happening on ubuntu 22.04 [04:08] hmm actually it looks like it' [04:08] s just some processing lag [04:09] Hello, I would like some help with how to mount with the correct command and location please? [04:10] https://dpaste.com/GE9TWVSTR [04:10] mount what [04:11] My disk to be backed up is /dev/sda. I just reconnected a storage disk to store the backup in /dev/sdb. I'm running on the LiveUSB /dev/sdc. [04:12] So, unsure if I need to mount /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 to backup the whold Ubuntu 22.04.3 OS (or whatever's needed for a recovery). [04:13] kotgc, that rsync command loks like it is syncing the live OS's root to the backup disk [04:13] I'm unsure where to mount to, as I've been mounting /dev/sda2 to /mnt, but now I think I need all of /dev/sda...and how to I mount 2 disks to /mnt or to whatever location is needed? [04:13] which is pointless [04:13] so what you need to do make 2 dirs /mnt/srcdisk and /mnt/backupdisk [04:13] aiena I'm not sure, I just copied the command from https://ostechnix.com/backup-entire-linux-system-using-rsync/#google_vignette: [04:14] That would be my next step to figure out the rsync command. [04:14] hmm copying something without understanding it is silly [04:14] I haven't crossed that bridge yet...need to figure out the mount I think? [04:14] why dont you take two folders and test what that rsync command is doing first [04:15] then when your confident about it backup your real disks [04:15] aiena copying is fine, it's applying by hitting Enter that is silly...I'm about to work on that command with a bit of lateral thinking. [04:15] this is simply because root and home maybe be on one partition or 2 partitions inth source disk also you may have more mount points elswhere [04:15] rsync is step2 in my process. [04:15] mount is step1. [04:15] mount isn't even step 1 [04:16] ok, what is step 1? [04:16] step 1 is mount the partitions and see what they contain [04:16] then make a plan [04:16] then unmount and remount what is needed to correct locations [04:16] then rsync from source to destination [04:16] So quenstion 1 [04:16] aiena ok, I've kind of done that already. /dev/sda2 is the root and /dev/sda1 is the efi, as per fdisk -l in the dpaste. [04:17] do you have a separate /home? [04:17] no it looks like /home and root are 1 [04:17] aiena I'm not clear what you mean about a separate /home? [04:17] you only have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 [04:17] dev/sda is a default Ubuntu 22.04.3 install. [04:18] so I assume that /dev/sda2 has everything include your user account data [04:18] yes that makes sense [04:18] aiena yes, and /dev/sda1 is the efi thingy. [04:18] unles you do manual partitioning ubuntu puts everything in 1 partition (except the efi one of course) [04:18] ok, it's all default. [04:18] from your output it seems you chose the utomatic install [04:18] yes correct [04:19] ok so for now you do umount /mnt [04:19] this will unmount /dev/sdb1 [04:19] is sdb1 empty or does it have data? [04:19] the backup drive [04:19] dev/sb1 has the efi thingy [04:20] from your output /dev/sdb1 2048 234440703 234438656 111.8G Linux filesystem [04:21] so it looks like just one partition is there no efi partition which should be formatted as FA3T2 [04:21] have you already unountd /dev/sdb1 or is it still mounted? [04:21] unmounted [04:21] dev/sdb1 is the SSD120 to receive the backup of dev/sda [04:22] ok fine now next question [04:22] I just booted the LiveUSB and pasted the code here https://dpaste.com/GE9TWVSTR [04:22] do you want your backup ssd to also be bootable in the event of a disaster [04:22] ok, so nothing mounted or unmounted, just default. [04:22] or is it just for data only and you dont care about reinstalling the OS [04:23] aiena I just need access to the backup if /dev/sda is destroyed in the next project of trying to fix /dev/sda. [04:23] *if [04:23] ignore above *if [04:23] in that case it's better to backup both the efi partition and the root partition [04:24] so that would mean even before mounting the first step would be to repartition the backup disk [04:24] in your live boot there is a program called gparted most likely [04:26] aiena ok, one more thing, how can I check I connected the correct storage disk? I don't want to overwrite some data I had on one of the storage disks? [04:27] multiple ways [04:27] you can type the command [04:27] lsblk [04:27] it will list available drives and partition ignore the /dev/loop ones [04:28] all the loop ones ignore if present [04:28] you may see things like sda sdb nvme [04:28] those are physical drives/ssd's [04:28] you will also see the total size of each [04:28] https://dpaste.com/G3V46K35V doesn't show me if there's data on it though? [04:28] right [04:29] so sdb1 is showing 110gb [04:29] err sdb [04:29] I thought I might be able to navigate through its directories? [04:29] and sda is showing 223GB [04:29] Yes, /dev/sdb is 120GB SSD. [04:29] So, probably no data. [04:30] so from the disk size are you able to confirm sdb is backup and sda is inside based on total size [04:30] ok this will not tell you if you have data or no data [04:30] I'm not confident that shows there's no data though? [04:30] but it will help you get an idea of which is what [04:30] for example /dev/sdc is 14GB so it definetly looks like a pen drive or your live boot [04:30] dev/sdb is the storage disk. dev/sda is the OS to be backed up. [04:30] yes ok so that is clear [04:31] now for your second question [04:31] from lsblk output you can see that /dev/sdb1 is mounted in /mnt location [04:31] so now type [04:31] ls -la /mnt [04:31] Q2: any data on /dev/sdb. [04:31] see if you get any output [04:32] https://dpaste.com/AZCWJ4Y2L [04:32] ok it looks like it is empty [04:33] also can you paste the output of [04:33] 1 of the 3 storage disks has about 80GB, so this dev/sdb must be empty. [04:33] mount |grep /mnt [04:34] https://dpaste.com/GRNL77SX4 [04:34] just to determine the filesystem [04:34] ok so it looks like a linux file system too [04:34] ok now step 3 [04:35] Oh no I have to go I am sorry [04:36] step 3 is to mount /dev/sda1 to a folder in some other path and then type du -h /newpath [04:37] to see how space is utilised of sda and if it will fit in sdb [04:37] ok [04:38] looking up command for moun [04:38] *mount [04:39] Done with command:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 Documents/ [04:40] https://dpaste.com/2W74U8YCW [04:41] The past 2 days, my computer has not awakened from suspend when I pressed a key. [04:42] I had to hard reboot it both times. [04:43] Is there something I can do to enable extra logging before suspending to figure out the cause? [04:43] sudo umount /dev/sda1 Documents/ && sudo mount /dev/sda2 Documents/ && sudo du -h Documents/ [04:43] what is the output [04:44] aiena https://dpaste.com/F6N89U386 [04:44] if it is more than external disk all data will not fit in external backup disk [04:45] ok [04:45] actually drive was busy [04:45] so do [04:46] cd .. && sudo umount /dev/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda2 Documents/ && sudo du -h Documents/ [04:46] maybe because I already mount it? https://dpaste.com/2W74U8YCW [04:46] no you moutned efi partition my bad so i wanted to see rgualr partition usage [04:46] try above cmd [04:47] will be afk for 40 mins or so [04:47] aiena https://dpaste.com/7MJ7MTM6T [04:47] ok === newbie is now known as newbie-guy [05:22] Hi, Using ububtu20.04 on a laptop! Left shift Key not working with i or L and a few others. Right shift works as normal [05:22] can anyone point me in the right direction to work out whats wrong? [05:22] If it helps it acts the same if I change en or us [05:23] thats funny, i had the exact same problem with a work laptop [05:23] they just gave me a new one [05:23] haha [05:23] maybe it was something in an upgrade It was working before [05:24] don't think I have changed anything [05:26] In /etc/default/keyboard [05:26] it says [05:26] XKBLAYOUT=gb,us [05:26] BACKSPACE=guess [05:26] XKBVARIANT=, [05:27] Not sure if thats normal [05:39] BlueSmoke: Not normal - have a read ' man 5 keyboard '// is the comma present in the config file ? [05:39] yes thats exactly whats in there [05:40] just the 3 lines [05:41] BlueSmoke: Is your keyboard a US ascii 105 keys board ? // a comma in the file does not look to be posit. [05:43] its a uk layout laptop with shared num pad [05:45] opps its i and k and some others L does work [05:59] BlueSmoke: I do not know enough about a keyboard layout to have an exact opinion. but see too: man xkeyboard-config / Can get "complex". However, one can reset the mapping. [06:01] Thanks! It's a start as looking for posts was confusing with so many different problems listed, I didn't know what one was the same as mine [06:04] I saw stuff about remappin and all that but I did't want to complicate it it worked as standard before so I wanted to try to keep it to standard if possible [06:05] BlueSmoke: If you run out of patience, an no other offers a solution >> ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ' will allow you to choose what layout to reset. [06:06] great thanks I was worried about messing with it too much in case it became unusable so that will help if I mess it up thanks === JanC_ is now known as JanC [06:17] BlueSmoke: I stand corrected - I have in my notes: XKBVARIANT="," // Maybe a fix for your currrent file ? [06:18] I was trying to take out the , and save but it says its read only [06:21] BlueSmoke: "ls -al /etc/default/keyboard" >> "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150 Aug 26 2022 /etc/default/keyboard " // root owned filke - will require "sudo" access to edit. [06:23] I tried cd /etc/default [06:23] ls and kebored was there I tried sudo edit and it came up I removed the , but didnt know how to save it [06:24] thats what I tried beore your lat post [06:26] BlueSmoke: I excpect the editor here to be "nano" -- save == Ctrl + O. exit nano by pressing Ctrl + X. [06:28] BlueSmoke: Lower case o and x :( [06:31] I must be doing somting wron its not letting me type in it [06:32] it has a warning that a swap file owns it [06:36] apparently its vim [06:36] and not responding much probably just dont know what I'm doing [06:38] BlueSmoke: Sorry again - never had the need to want to use vim :( [06:39] E325: ATTENTION [06:39] Found a swap file by the name "/etc/default/.keyboard.swp" [06:39] owned by: root dated: Wed Jan 17 06:13:07 2024 [06:39] file name: /etc/default/keyboard [06:39] modified: YES [06:39] I tried touch before it didnt do anything [06:39] thought that was an editor too === TheCaptain4 is now known as TheCaptain [06:40] can I edit from the gui edit [06:41] BlueSmoke: If you type /etc/default/keyboard and hit the enter key, does that work ? [06:43] BlueSmoke: I wont be much help on your GUI as I have only used xfce for years. [06:44] from just pasting that into the terminal [06:45] etc/default/keyboard: Permission denied [06:49] BlueSmoke: lemme see what DDG says about saving in vim. [06:49] ok I did it by typing nano but it said vim has it open I think it crashed but I edited it anyway and on reading it back its changed [06:49] I added the "," [06:51] so now I would have to make it restart the keybord thing it said in one of the links you sent [06:53] BlueSmoke: Yeah - restart so the change takes effect - easiest is to just reboot. [06:53] udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change [06:53] In order to activate the changes on the console, run setupcon(1). [06:53] do I do them both [06:54] reboot should be fine. [06:54] from that man 5 keyboard [06:55] if I crash the browser it should reconect on restor ok I'll restart === bk is now known as Guest1121 [07:00] It didnt fix it let me check in it kept the changes [07:02] yes the BlueSmoke,@ is there now but still iff i type kkkk its working and shift k gives nothing and right shift gives KKKK [07:05] "," is there now I meant [07:06] BlueSmoke: Back where we were last night - out of my knowledge range :( [07:07] unfortunatly I was hoping a new crowd of ppl might be on [07:08] whats about that restore one you said about it wont help find out what it is but might fix it [07:10] or try it without the , or the "," [07:10] not sure whats in there as standard [07:11] BlueSmoke: Keep youe witts about you and run ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ' . [07:13] ok I'll give it a go [07:14] BlueSmoke: Keep notes on what you choose :) [07:15] is there some otion to reset it to default ? [07:18] BlueSmoke: Best I recall - a menu to change/reset the layout you want. [07:20] so far its asking me what keyboard its just in an older laptop not listed [07:20] is there a way to save the jurent settings first in case I want to revert it back [07:23] BlueSmoke: Not that I am aware of :( [07:24] might just put it to generic 105 pc kb [07:25] or theres a 101 not sure I want to count all the key lol [07:25] keys [07:26] BlueSmoke: Like I said last night - I do not know how to determine the keyboard :( [07:27] Well you are the only on that has answered so Its cool we got this far and tried one option [07:29] BlueSmoke: localectl status ! [07:30] System Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 [07:30] LANGUAGE=en_GB:en [07:30] VC Keymap: uk [07:30] X11 Layout: gb,us [07:30] X11 Variant: , [07:32] might try removing that , fist [07:32] first [07:34] ok I'll reset [07:37] is there any way to disable the update notifications for ubuntu pro in the "Software Updater"? [07:40] no different [07:42] looks likw only 87 keys if I counted right but then it might count the alternatives on the num pad and stuff [07:46] BlueSmoke: My layout "X11 Model: pc105" 105 keys including the number pad. [07:56] So far te same [08:02] BlueSmoke: Any joy ' setxkbmap -query ' to know the keyboard ? mine >> model: pc105 . [08:02] I changed it to 105 now still not working [08:05] its strange it dont give any output for that k key when left shift is held [08:13] BlueSmoke: Yeah - A real wierd one. [08:14] its the i k and a few others inc some Fkeys [08:17] I am running ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS with kernel version 6.5, wifi adapter name: realtek 8822be wifi not working, when i restart my laptop wifi works for a minute but after that it automatically gets disconnected and there is no option to connect again pls help [08:26] rtl8188eus [08:26] is there any other way than the fully manual way to install this driver to ubuntu? [08:32] Good day. I'm using Ubuntu 22.04, with a dual boot with Win10. Upon boot-up, after the boot menu, loading into linux, my system gets stuck with a few errors. It takes a couple restarts before getting to the log in screen and then everything's fine. Is there a command I can run to show what the problem is from the terminal? [08:33] Is there a significance to the mic icon being orange instead of the same color as the rest? https://imgur.com/a/9HTzAI4 [08:36] Bluewolf: Might try 'journalctl -b -0 ' shows messages from the current boot, ' journalctl -b -1 ' from the previous boot. [08:38] I am running ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS with kernel version 6.5, wifi adapter name: realtek 8822be wifi not working, when i restart my laptop wifi works for a minute but after that it automatically gets disconnected and there is no option to connect again pls help [08:38] Bluewolf: journalctl -b |grep failed #<- to see what failed while booting up. [08:40]

Thanks. Let me run them. If I paste the output, would you mind going through it? [08:44] Bluewolf: It is 2:42 in the AM here --- long past bed time for me --- I am struggling to stay awake -- about to go away - sure others here can lend assistance. [08:45]

Understandable, thank you thus far. Have a good morning. [08:46] Bluewolf: :D Gone [08:48] This is the output to my question above, what is the problem and how would I go about fixing it? https://dpaste.com/E8A39AYDS - https://dpaste.com/AC9ETSKYJ === bm0 is now known as bm [10:36] Im currently running neon stable (plasma 5). but i need to switch hardware. Should i keep my old install(just swap it into the new machine) or should i switch to (plasma 6) release candidate? Or is it better to make a fresh install of current stable neon(plasma)? [10:38] We only support official flavors of Ubuntu here [10:39] ravage i know, but my question is more of a general linux question. When switching hardware, should i keep my old install or always make a fresh install? the flavor of ubuntu/linux doesn't matter that much imo. [10:40] You should install a fresh version of a version that is supported here [10:40] If you plan to get support for it here === phireant8692 is now known as phireant869 [11:20] Hi can anyone help me fix brightness issue? I cannot make the brightness up my screen is too dimmed. I'm using 23.10 version [11:21] it may be related to your nickname. sorry. bad joke. moving on. [11:22] It only became like this after there's a little update with the system. [11:23] the issue is I can do the minimum brightness but when I'm trying to increase the brightness it's like it only increase by 1-10% brightness [11:56] Anyone able to take a look at these errors upon boot, tell me what the issue is and how to fix it? https://dpaste.com/E8A39AYDS - https://dpaste.com/AC9ETSKYJ [11:59] Bluewolf: there are a few current bugs booting on kernel 6.5, could you try a previous kernel version as a test? === phireant8695 is now known as phireant869 [12:00] I don't know how to go about doing that. Why does it not boot up but after a hard reset it loads up fine? [12:01] Bluewolf: hold shift to enter grub at post boot, then pick a previous kernel from there [12:04] Okay thanks. Is that the only likely error to cause failed boot up that's on that list? [12:05] Bluewolf: im not sure whats your issue yet, at this stage we are still testing [12:06] Okay. I'm currently on the machine in question and its quite a pain to get back in after rebooting. [12:07] Bluewolf: you should always be able to enter grub or recoverymode [12:07] from there you can run some admin tasks [12:08] I have a dual boot and the option to load into recovery mode is there. I'm just really out of touch with doing it all :( [12:19] !recovery | Bluewolf [12:19] Bluewolf: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [12:20] Thanks friend :y: [12:22] Bluewolf: from there you can pick 2 roads, boot a previous kernel or drop to a recovermode menu to do some admin tasks [12:22] What do these admin task entail? [12:24] Bluewolf: you can drop to a rootshell, enable networking, load failsafe graphics etc [12:25] Alright. Will start with grub, then recovery mode. [12:27] Bluewolf: for your case, i would try to boot a previous kernel as a test first [12:28] Yes, sorry that's what I meant by grub. === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ === abr is now known as abq [13:54] Hi all === abr is now known as teichmolch [16:05] hi [16:05] hi [17:36] Is there a version of Ubuntu that has openZFS 2.2.2? Instead of the majorly flawed 2.0.0? [17:36] !info openzfs [17:36] Package openzfs does not exist in mantic [17:37] wouldn't that be built into the kernel? [17:37] Kernel driver, and userland tools [17:38] !info | libzfs4linux [17:38] 'libzfs4linux' is not a valid release [17:38] !info libzfs4linux [17:38] libzfs4linux (2.2.0-0ubuntu1~23.10, mantic): OpenZFS filesystem library for Linux - general support. In component main, is optional. Built by zfs-linux. Size 219 kB / 650 kB. (Only available for linux-any.) [17:39] I'm not compiling it unless I can do so with the build environment Ubuntu uses, just with 2.2.2 source [17:39] telgareith: pretty sure libzfs4linux version 2.0.x isn't available on any supported releases of ubuntu === puff`` is now known as puff [18:09] Good morning. I have an old PC that currently runs Lubuntu 20.04 LTS. How do I "convert" this system to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS with LXQt so that it can continue to be community-supported? [18:11] Unfortunately I cannot upgrade to Lubuntu 22.04 because my graphics card is not supported in nouveau, and the nvidia-340 driver is EOL and supports Linux 5.4 at the latest [18:12] sem: You don't need to do anything, once the Lubuntu team stops supporting a release, the community support provided by the underlying Ubuntu LTS continues. [18:13] Ok, thanks arraybolt3 for your help with this :) [18:14] Glad to help :) [19:06] I need help. Remmina to Windows machine used to work. Now only remote sound from Windows works, not microphone === alexa_jones is now known as alex_jones [20:52] heey, does anyone know a way to format an sdcard? === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ [21:33] Hi all. I'm using ubuntu 22.04. After a reboot, I cannot connect to the internet via wireless. I think my computer has wifi capability on the motherboard itself - but I'm not sure [21:34] I've managed to reconnect by running a cable directly to my rig [21:35] I can't seem to find wifi setting form the gnome desktop panel [21:39] la quattordicesima [21:42] no, il diciassette [21:42] :-) === ajfriesen84737 is now known as ajfriesen [22:42] bobdobbs: are you still having problems? === user03 is now known as gchound [22:50] on a terminal, what key or combination do I have to press to stop a program? say, ytb-dl [22:51] I tried ctrl+c, ctrl+q but they don't work [22:51] I believe a combination of those keys shut all my open terminals... [22:51] Ctrl+C is supposed to work [22:51] Ctrl+\ sometimes works better [22:51] (it's more "nuclear" than Ctrl+C) [22:52] If those don't work, you'll have to SIGTERM the process, and if that doesn't work SIGKILL it. [22:53] ^Q will ask the terminal to stop output. it'll look like the thing is dead. ^S will restart terminal output. [22:53] ^Z will suspend the process [22:54] the process can block the ^Z; it can probably reconfigure ^Q and ^S, too, to make those not do anything === user03 is now known as gchound [23:51] I plugged an ethernet cord into one of those powered "ethernet to USB-c adapters" into my laptop [23:51] I can see the ethernet lights blinking, however nm-applet shows "ethernet unplugged" and ip link shows "down" [23:51] I am not sure how to begin troubleshooting this [23:52] if it were me, I'd check lsusb or lspci output to see if I could find the chipset, then try to use that to figure out what module to load, if any, and then load that module or build that module or pay someone to write a module to support it, etc [23:53] hmm so it is likely not supported at the hardware level? [23:54] sem: try 'lsusb' does it mention it? [23:54] you should be able to check if it is supported [23:54] Yeah, ID 0b95:1790 ASIX Electronics Corp. AX88179 Gigabit Ethernet [23:54] sem: what about 'lshw -c network' ? any driver loaded? [23:56] EriC^^, Yes I see something in there with logical name enxf8... [23:56] oh and now ethernet is working in network manager... :) [23:56] you fixed it [23:56] heh [23:57] thanks a bunch -- and that is a good tip for investigating the hw to see if it is supported [23:58] oh yay :) [23:58] also, you said 'ip link' showed it as "down", so that already meant it had a driver loaded [23:59] * sarnold facepalm [23:59] it could still have been the wrong driver or a broken driver