[00:18] <JackFrost> But at least it's snappy! :>
[03:46] <JackFrost> Holy crap, batman.  That notes changelog is loooooong.
[08:55] <knome> JackFrost, you didn't answer my question, and, is it really? (snappy?)
[08:55] <JackFrost> knome: I haven't the slightest clue about the snap store.
[08:56] <knome> also, do snaps still store their data in ~/snap and path isn't configurable?
[08:57] <JackFrost> ~/.local/share/snap would make more sense, depending on what type of data.
[08:57] <knome> i used the blender snap, and it might have been configuration
[08:58] <knome> the gist was that a snap created a directory visible on my homedir
[08:59] <knome> and that's so annoying that i haven't even thought about other reasons to potentially (dis)like snap
[09:00] <JackFrost> I have ssh access to a 22.04.3 host with snapd installed, I can maybe check..
[09:01] <knome> i mean my machine is 22.04 and i can install snaps, so...
[09:02] <JackFrost> That's about all I can tell you, I don't have it on a desktop, never have. :3
[09:02]  * knome shrugs
[09:02] <knome> the more time passes by, the less i seem to care about technological stuff as long as it works
[09:04] <JackFrost> I'm still of the older mindset, if it's not packaged then it doesn't exist. :P
[09:04] <JackFrost> (Presuming I can't be tricked into packaging it.)
[09:04] <knome> ...i mean, snap is sort a package? (:
[09:04] <knome> +of
[09:05] <JackFrost> Well, so is rpm.  But I don't count either.
[09:06] <knome> :)
[09:07] <JackFrost> I had to switch from Gandi to Porkbun, one of the biggest downsides is now I maintain pkb-client in Debian. :3
[09:07] <knome> why?
[09:07] <JackFrost> Cost of Gandi doubled, Porkbun had all the features I needed at old-Gandi prices.
[09:07] <knome> ahh.
[09:08] <JackFrost> I could have added more years on my domain in July, but I missed the cutoff so I went looking for alternatives instead...
[09:09] <knome> fair enough
[09:20] <knome> always fun when you have a directory named "cd"
[11:31] <bluesabre> Snap Store installs snaps and deb packages from the archive (doesn't seem to install downloaded .deb files)
[11:32] <bluesabre> We currently ship a single snap package: Firefox
[11:32] <bluesabre> It does create a `snap` folder in your home directory
[11:33] <bluesabre> I've thought about shipping a .hidden file to just hide the snap directory... because it's not useful
[11:35] <bluesabre> Also doesn't install .snap files downloaded from the Internet (those exist! https://obsidian.md/download)
[11:36] <bluesabre> And the `snap` path isn't configurable. Can become a pain when your home directory is on a smaller partition.
[11:48] <knome> smaller or not, i think it's infuriating that they decided it's ok for a default to create a visible directory in ~
[12:11] <bluesabre> Totally agreed.
[12:22] <knome> ...and not be able to change that
[15:07] <arraybolt3>  does it work to make it a symlink?
[15:07] <arraybolt3> not really a solution to the problem of a user-visible folder but might let you move it regardless
[17:12] <knome> don't know but the visibility is the main issue
[17:12] <knome> not the space required
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[17:46] <bluesabre> It lives!
[19:29] <knome> that was... a lot