[03:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[08:41] <pagios> hi all, if i wanna setup encryption on my disks, should i setup luks on /dev/sda /dev/sdb and then setup lvm , or should i setup lvm on sda, sdb and then setup luks
[10:50] <pagios>  how can i tell the bootloader that i have a luks partition to decrypt? when booting it is not asking for decryption asd seeinf the disk as corrupt since encrypted
[11:32] <ogra_> pagios, this is really better suited in the support channel (#ubuntu) ... this is more for general ubuntu related discussions
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: that's fine, I'm aware... but I had that all typed out and seemed like a waste not to put it out there for the benefit of someone else about to do the same thing
[16:05] <pragmaticenigma> ogra_: I do not understand your rant or purpose there. The terms are on the enrollment page. That's all that matters and all that needs to be stated. My goal was to make sure accurate information from the source is provided. https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe, https://ubuntu.com/legal/ubuntu-pro/personal, and here https://ubuntu.com/legal/ubuntu-pro-description. Feel free to read through those and if you have any questions, feel 
[16:05] <pragmaticenigma> free to reach out to legal@canonical.com for clarifications.
[16:48] <ogra_> pragmaticenigma, rant ? 
[16:49] <ogra_> i just wanted to correct a misconception you spread, there was no rant or anything 
[16:50] <ogra_> it is an important part of the product that it is also free for business use and we want that info to be spread 
[16:51] <pragmaticenigma> The terms spell out "business use" with a qualifier, and that is "Business Owner"
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> everything you were going on about was conjecture. I have watched companies completely wiped out because they clicked through the WInRAR prompt saying their free trial has expired.
[16:53] <ogra_> i can tell you it is not how it is/has been designed ... i was in the room ... and it is also not what we spread on discourse (including the manager of pro who reites there regulary) 
[16:54] <ogra_> s/reites/writes/
[16:55] <ogra_> the key of the product freeness is the number of machines assigned to an ubuntu SSO account ... nothing else and nobody will go after you in the case i described on #ubuntu
[16:56] <ogra_> (i.e. you being the admin of multiple businesses and you setting up SSO/pro accounts for each of them to stay free)
[16:56] <ogra_> the target of paid pro are really enterprises 
[17:14] <Menzador> Oh sheesh, I think this is r/dontyouknowwhoiam material right there... but yeah, ogra would know
[17:24] <arraybolt3> and I can confirm he's right
[17:25] <ogra_> yeah, sorry, i dont like to play this card usually 🙂 
[17:26] <ogra_> if pragmaticenigma comes back, tell them the beer is on me next summit 😉 
[18:25] <ubuntuk> hallo!
[18:26] <ubuntuk> do you know any linux channel, preferably ubuntu on discord, I mean chat or information?
[20:47] <Menzador> None of the Ubuntu-related servers on Discord are official, but we are developing a federated presence on Matrix
[20:50] <Menzador> *using Matrix even
[21:01] <pragmaticenigma> ogra_: It would greatly benefit you to have some sort of mask on your handle here. Would have given a lot more credibility and origin to your diatribe in the main channel earlier.
[21:09] <arraybolt3> pragmaticenigma: oddly enough the only person I've seen being bitter and forceful here has been you.
[21:11] <pragmaticenigma> arraybolt3: oddly enough the only person I've encountered around here trying to control the actions of others is you
[21:12] <arraybolt3> Wasn't trying to control your actions, I was making an observation.
[21:16] <pragmaticenigma> well, that's how it appears to me. so maybe instead of jumping at me, work with me. Anyone could have spoken up earlier and mentioned who ogra_ was and their standing. But instead everyone wait until the grand reveal
[21:16] <daftykins> amongst other negatives