[01:25] <dragon_> how do I know which lubuntu I have?
[01:25] <dragon_> I can`t remember if I upgraded
[01:28] <dragon_> oh, I am 23.04
 dragon: time to upgrade then 23.04 is end of life now
[01:39] <dragon_> I get this message when trying to release upgrade 
[01:39] <dragon_> Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.
[01:39] <dragon_> ...and I have done the basic upgrades 
[01:40] <dragon_> bare with me. I shall have to continue tomorrow
[01:45] <dragon_> There is a desktop pacakge held back
[19:40] <dragon_> has anyone had problem with the 23.10 upgrade? I am in 23.04
[19:40] <dragon_> I get these two promts everytime I boot my pc, asking for password, but nothing happens
[19:41] <dragon_> i have followed the guide for general upgrading ubuntu
[19:45] <dragon_> when attempting to upgrade I get "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading". That I have, just upgraded all the system allows
 Let me check something, sec
 Would you be able to open a terminal (Ctrl Alt T) and run apt list --upgradable?
 That will tell you what is still being held back
[19:51] <dragon_> I get; N: There is 1 additional version. Please use the '-a' switch to see it
[19:56] <dragon_> I don`t quite understand the terminal messages, but i have to play around with various commands from lists
[19:56] <dragon_> distro upgrade is at a hault 
[20:05] <kc2bez> dragon_: if you could use a paste service to copy the messages you are seeing it would help us further. 
[20:06] <kc2bez> !paste | dragon_ 
[20:07] <dragon_> https://dpaste.com/7RB5VDFVJ
[20:08] <dragon_> does it make sense at your end?
[20:12] <kc2bez> Please use sudo apt update to update the package cache before sudo apt upgrade
[20:17] <dragon_> i have done that
[20:17] <dragon_> I have had several attemtps since yesterday, 
[20:18] <dragon_> I get the same result
[20:21] <dragon_> https://dpaste.com/25A73J6MP
[20:23] <kc2bez> I don't see where you did "sudo apt update" 
[20:24] <dragon_> https://dpaste.com/3PQV7FK6A
[20:24] <dragon_> sorry
[20:26] <dragon_> https://dpaste.com/BAKGR6GS8
[20:27] <dragon_> I can`t see why or where the  updates are held back if at all?
[20:28] <dragon_> The last few days, 23.04 has become very impatient, it desperately wants me to upgrade
[20:31] <dragon_> what is an "-a switch"
[20:33] <dragon_> is it a difficult situation I am in?
[20:35] <dragon_> I would rather attempt an upgrade, rather than reinstall
[20:37] <kc2bez> please do a sudo apt-mark showhold
[20:38] <dragon_> https://dpaste.com/7N3FAGWGX
[20:41] <kc2bez> It is all one command "sudo apt-mark showhold"
[20:43] <dragon_> it didnt result in anything
[20:44] <dragon_> ...it still doesn`t
[20:45] <kc2bez> Ok, let's try this "sudo apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade lubuntu-desktop"
[20:46] <dragon_> should I say YEs?
[20:47] <kc2bez> I am not sure what the question is.
[20:47] <dragon_> https://dpaste.com/7JXPEVKNU
[20:48] <kc2bez> Yes is the correct answer
[20:49] <dragon_> https://dpaste.com/FAGAAZYDQ
[20:50] <dragon_> ...pipewire
[20:53] <kc2bez> Pipewire is good, it replaces pulseaudio. Ok, should be able to upgrade now. You might need to reboot first.
[20:53] <dragon_> back in a bit :- )
[22:04] <dragon_> looks like I have to wait a bit, the upgrader can`t connect to ubuntu server I think
[22:48] <dragon_> I am still stuck in 23.04, but the upgrader did something
[22:57] <dragon_> is anyone up tonight?
[22:58] <dragon_> I need approval from a higher sorce, something fishy going on
[23:16] <cristian_c> hi
[23:17] <cristian_c> I'd like to install lubuntu 23.10 toa baytrail device. I've chosen to replace the current installation in sdcard
[23:17] <dragon_> I some how managed to boot in 23.10
[23:18] <cristian_c> when I run installer, disks are properly detected
[23:19] <cristian_c> the issue is that when I select the target storage, just manual partitioning appears and if I select that and press next, I get the manual partitioning screen but Next button is disabled, even if I select the partition on sdcard
[23:19] <cristian_c> so I don't know how to move forward
[23:19] <cristian_c> this didn't happen with ubiquity in past
[23:19] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[23:21] <liemon> hello, maybe the boot partition is missing? cristian_c
[23:21] <liemon> you need at least a /home partition and a boot one
[23:21] <liemon> somebody can confirm this
[23:22] <cristian_c> liemon, no, I've double-checked with kde partition manager too
[23:23] <cristian_c> liemon, currently, on my existing installation boot partition is installed into another storage (internal eMMC) in a different partition and mounted as /boot
[23:24] <cristian_c> efi partition is installed in internal storage too, and mounted as /boot/efi
[23:25] <cristian_c> instead the root partition (which includes home too) is installed into sdcard
[23:25] <cristian_c> liemon, I don't know how to workaround the problem, ubiquity allowed me to install lubuntu
[23:32] <liemon> does the boot partition has the 'boot' flag?
[23:33] <liemon> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.3/installation.html#manual-partitioning
[23:48] <cristian_c> liemon, the boot partition (mounted as /boot), is locsted in the internal storage and kde partition manager shows the two flags are not enabled (Properties)
[23:49] <cristian_c> Flags: bios-grub and boot not enabled
[23:49] <cristian_c> liemon, though, I alwayse use that to boot the kernel
[23:49] <cristian_c> *always
[23:49] <cristian_c> and grub
[23:51] <liemon> i am not sure then, cristian_c
[23:52] <liemon> i always had to set the 'boot' partition to install lubuntu
[23:52] <liemon> but in this case i do not know the answer, since its a different 'scenario'
[23:54] <cristian_c> liemon, currently, boot flag is enabled with the fat32 efi partition
[23:55] <liemon> and that did enabled the 'next' button?
[23:56] <cristian_c> no
[23:57] <liemon> hmm, i guess the best option would be to wait until some dev comes around, they know best how to do this :)
[23:57] <liemon> in the meanwhile, a picture of the 'arrange' in the partition would be useful, in case somebody comes in here in a few minutes/hours
[23:58] <liemon> unfortunately i do not know how to proceed