[00:19] <leftyfb> sarnold: thank you
[00:52] <cart> I am trying to install wmctrl on Ubuntu but it tells "Unable to locate package wmctrl
[00:53] <rbox> looks like its in universe
[00:53] <rbox> do you have universe enabled?
[00:58] <cart> rbox: Ahh shit I might have disabled it
[00:58] <rbox> who goes out of their way t o dsiable universe
[00:58] <Habbie> is universe enabled by default?
[01:01] <cart> rbox: I had some upgrade shenanigans earlier
[01:01] <rbox> Habbie: i've never enavbled it manually...
[01:01] <cart> rbox: Disabled it when upgrading
[01:01] <cart> and then didn't enable
[01:03] <sarnold> some folks disable universe because they don't want to be bothered with ubuntu pro for security support
[03:10] <Anjor> Other people use Debian.
[04:31] <jawad> Hi
[04:31] <jawad> I am facing a problem in my ubuntu OS.
[04:32] <Bashing-om> !ask | jawad
[04:33] <oerheks>  
[04:33] <jawad> When I set up Appium on my system, the Wi-Fi gets disabled.
[04:34] <oerheks> on what ubuntu version? and what guide do you follow?
[04:34] <jawad> Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS
[04:35] <oerheks> oh i see, an android blob.. https://aurigait.com/blog/how-to-setup-appium-in-ubuntu/
[04:37] <jawad> guide includes
[04:37] <jawad> Step 1: JDK installation
[04:37] <jawad> Step 2: Android-SDK installation
[04:37] <jawad> Step 3: NodeJS
[04:37] <jawad> Step 4: Appium server installation
[04:37] <jawad> Step 5: Appium driver Installation
[04:37] <oerheks> !paste
[04:38] <oerheks> not sure how that would bug wifi
[04:39] <jawad> !paste
[04:39] <jawad> [9:37:41 AM] <jawad> guide includes
[04:39] <jawad> [9:37:41 AM] <jawad> Step 1: JDK installation
[04:39] <jawad> [9:37:41 AM] <jawad> Step 3: NodeJS
[04:39] <jawad> [9:37:41 AM] <jawad> Step 2: Android-SDK installation
[04:39] <jawad> [9:37:41 AM] <jawad> Step 5: Appium driver Installation
[04:39] <oerheks> no jawed
[04:39] <oerheks> you are blocked again
[04:41] <oerheks> irc servers go bonkers with such floods
[04:41] <jawad> https://dpaste.com/3AA6T8P6L
[04:42] <jawad> https://dpaste.com/68AMCT2Q6
[04:44] <jawad> Can you help me?
[04:46] <jawad> Can I send document here?
[04:46] <Bashing-om> jawad: We are waiting for the rest of the story - Your issue is yet to be defined :D
[04:48] <oerheks> all packages outside our repos! hard to tell what to look for, wifi problems and waydroid
[04:49] <jawad> https://dpaste.com/DL6CGTKNR
[04:49] <jawad> In this link
[04:49] <jawad> I have shared completed guide I follow
[04:50] <jawad> After I do that, upon restarting the system, my Wi-Fi gets disabled
[04:51] <jawad> Also I can't enable it again
[04:51] <oerheks> Step 1: Download JDK-21 ... why not use the one in our repos? weird howto
[04:53] <oerheks> step 8, there i read something about ip adress
[04:53] <jawad> even before this step
[04:54] <jawad> Initially I though there is an issue with my system (hardware)
[04:54] <jawad> I am trying it on another laptop, again facing same issue
[04:55] <jawad> I think there is something wrong from step 1 to step 7
[04:58] <jawad> each time I have to reinstall ubuntu
[05:01] <jawad> Can you do anything?
[05:01] <jawad> in this regard
[05:02] <thisisjaymehta> I dont know anything about appium but its worth checking if appium puts your wifi into monitor mode.
[05:02] <jawad> Can you check it?
[05:05] <thisisjaymehta> I dont have a spare ubuntu system to experiment on. But try restarting using network manager using: `service network-manager restart` and then `ifconfig wlan0 up`. Note: Name of your wireless card might be different than wlan0, in that case use that name.
[05:06] <jawad> ok
[05:07] <jawad> Failed to restart network-manager.service: Unit network-manager.service not found.
[05:07] <jawad> getting this error
[05:09] <thisisjaymehta> try service NetworkManager restart. I didnt notice you were on newer version than mine
[05:10] <jawad> Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS
[05:10] <jawad> executed service NetworkManager restart
[05:11] <jawad> now restarting the system
[05:11] <thisisjaymehta> No dont restart the system
[05:11] <jawad> its separate system, I have restarted it
[05:12] <thisisjaymehta> Just restart network manager and then ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:12] <jawad> I also executed ifconfig, I noticed there is waydroid0 instead of wlan0
[05:12] <jawad> waydroid is one thing I have installed in appium guide
[05:14] <jawad> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:15] <jawad> in ifconfig, there is no waydroid0 now
[05:15] <thisisjaymehta> How many devices do you see in ifconfig?
[05:15] <jawad> 3
[05:16] <jawad> enp4s0
[05:16] <jawad> lo
[05:16] <jawad> lxcbr0
[05:18] <thisisjaymehta> Thats weird, it doesnt show your wifi card.
[05:18] <jawad> yes
[05:19] <jawad> previously there was waydroid0
[05:19] <jawad> let me start waydroid and check it agai
[05:19] <jawad> yes now there is waydroid0 again in ifconfig
[05:20] <jawad> now there are 5 devices
[05:20] <jawad> enp4s0
[05:20] <jawad> lo
[05:20] <jawad> lxcbro
[05:20] <jawad> vethCZ9K7k
[05:20] <jawad> waydroid0
[05:21] <jawad> there should be wlan0 which represents wife is working?
[05:21] <jawad> wifi*
[05:21] <thisisjaymehta> Let me message you on private buffer so we dont spam the chat
[05:22] <jawad> ok
[06:41] <unique_nick_hehe> is anyone running ubuntu coreOS?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !snappy | unique_nick_hehe
[07:34] <ll8> booooooooooooooooo
[07:35] <ll8> list??
[07:35] <ll8> channel list??
[07:35] <ll8> channel list ubuntu
[07:35] <ll8> ??
[07:36] <Bashing-om> !alis | ll8
[07:37] <ll8> kkk
[10:38] <uonas> yyyy
[10:42] <uonas> what is this
[10:43] <uonas> is there any one out there??
[10:46] <McParen> you can ask your question and wait for an answer.
[10:47] <uonas> can i ask any questions?
[10:48] <oerheks> see topic
[10:53] <uonas> where is topic?
[10:58] <guiverc> the topic appears on your screen (or in your window) when you enter the room uonas; this is a Ubuntu support room.
[10:59] <oerheks> !topic
[11:02] <uonas> ok thanks everyone!!!
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:39] <jsbach> hi, i have a question: My wireless keyboard stops working after a certain time (microsoft sculpt) within Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS (jammy) with updates included from yesterday. Could it be an issue with wireless drivers from lately?
[13:40] <jsbach> I have to pull out and in the batteries to get it work again.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> did you check your batteries?
[13:53] <jsbach> got em new
[13:55] <jsbach> all good
[15:38] <oerheks> important ssl update, brb
[15:49] <Bombo> hi
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> welcome Bombo
[15:49] <Bombo> how do i chk which amdgpu driver is in use?
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> Bombo: sudo lshw -C video
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> at bottom driver=.....willshowup here
[15:52] <Bombo> lotuspsychje: driver=amdgpu hm
[15:52] <Bombo> so i guess it's the new driver i installed with amdgpu-installer
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Bombo: amdgpu driver should be loaded as module by default based on your graphics card
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> what tutorial did you follow to do something else?
[15:55] <Bombo> lotuspsychje: https://www.amd.com/de/support/linux-drivers https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install-script.html
[15:56] <Bombo> lotuspsychje: the card worked before, it used xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[15:57] <Bombo> lotuspsychje: but RDNA was not working, but after that amdgpu-installer it doesn't work either
[15:58] <Bombo> how can i test the features of my amdgpu then
[15:58] <Bombo> list
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> Bombo: i would start with the amdgpu module loaded by default from ubuntu
[15:59] <oerheks> and for what ubuntu version?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> Bombo: if you got things not working from there, you can start debug
[15:59] <Bombo> lotuspsychje: i did nothing and it worked, but not the RDNA part (blender says)
[16:00] <Bombo> lotuspsychje: before there was only xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu installed
[16:00] <Bombo> anyone with an AMD GPU knows how to list features to see if RDNA is enabled?
[16:00] <oerheks> maybe that is part of amdgpu-pro?
[16:02] <Bombo> what did i install then?
[16:02] <Bombo> there is a pro version?
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> Bombo: oerheks asked you wich ubuntu release
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> amdgpu driver version would be handy and blender version tested too
[16:03] <oerheks> pro is just a bibairy blob,  on top of amdgpu
[16:03] <oerheks> c/binairy
[16:04] <oerheks> yeah, ubuntu version, kernel and gpu info would be a minimum
[16:04] <Bombo> oh i did not see that sorry, its 22.04 jammy
[16:04] <Bombo> blender 4.0.2
[16:05] <Bombo> AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT, https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html say 'Radeon RX 6000 Series' 'with Linux: Radeon Software 22.10 or ROCm 5.3'
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> !info blender jammy
[16:08] <Bombo> Blender 3.2 enables AMD GPU rendering on Linux
[16:08] <Bombo> with HIP
[16:08] <oerheks> and what kernel? hwe?
[16:11] <oerheks> https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6000-series/amd-radeon-rx-6500-series/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt
[16:11] <Bombo> linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04                  6.5.0.15.15~22.04.8
[16:13] <Bombo> yes this i used https://repo.radeon.com/amdgpu-install/23.40.1/ubuntu/jammy/amdgpu-install_6.0.60001-1_all.deb
[16:13] <oerheks> same version, good
[16:14] <oerheks> then i have no clue why RDNA 2 is not enabled
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> https://www.phoronix.com/review/blender-32-gpus
[16:16] <Bombo> maybe it's blender's fault so i ask if there is an othe rway to check
[16:16] <Bombo> if feature is enabled or not
[16:22] <oerheks> maybe #blender is a help
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> Bombo: can you do some tests with the blender snap perhaps
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> latest/stable or latest/edge
[16:26] <Bombo> i suspect it's a drivre issue so i wanted to try it with another tool, that uses RDNA
[16:46] <BinarySavior> is there any program i can run on a micro sd card which is not detected when inserted into reader?
[16:46] <BinarySavior> other micro sd cards work
[16:46] <BinarySavior> just this one is not detected
[16:46] <BinarySavior> or is it fried
[16:47] <Paris> try gparted, or in another device, most likely it's a dead card.
[16:48] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: if it doesn't show up in dmesg, then it's dead
[16:50] <Paris> check the contacts also, there can be crap preventing connection. Sometimes a card might read onto another device, then backup it, and change it.
[17:31] <JanC> BinarySavior: what do you mean by "not detected"?
[17:34] <Bombo> *doh* sudo usermod -a -G render $LOGNAME was missing, now it works
[17:34] <user_> hello
[17:48] <plujon> Good day.
[17:49] <plujon> Recently my Ubuntu 22.04 LTS system stopped fully powering off.  I asked about this the other day, thinking this was a problem with suspend, but when I shut down my computer yesterday, the fan stayed on as did activity lights in the front and back.  Any ideas what might cause this behavior and how I can troubleshoot it?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> plujon: you can press F1 at shutdown process to switch to textmode, see where it bottlenecks
[17:55] <plujon> lotuspsychje: Thanks; I'll try that.  But I think my display goes black.
[17:56] <plujon> Not too long ago, I got two new hard drives: 1 nvme and 1 classic platter.  I don't know if that is a contributor somehow.
[17:57] <plujon> I also updated Ubuntu recently, and I might have gotten a newer kernel, and I moved Virtual Box versions from 6.x to 7.0.
[17:57] <plujon> So, my three leading suspects are: 1. hard drive(s), 2. kernel upgrade, 3. virtual box upgrade.  But I have no hard evidence for any of them.
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> plujon: investigate your logs, share in a !paste with the volunteers
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> usualy F1 text shutdown will give you an idea of whats happening last to your system, some cases you can catch a hang/freeze
[18:00] <plujon> How can I view logs?
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> try the F1 trick first
[18:00] <plujon> I've already looked at journalctl, for example.
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> see how far you can reach your shutdown
[18:02] <plujon> Okay, I'll try the F1 trick.  I guess I'll have to write down what I see, if anything.  I fear the screen will go black and I won't have much to go on.  We'll see.
[18:02] <plujon> And, ... the problem does not occur on every shutdown.
[18:02]  * plujon about to try shutting down
[18:09] <plujon> The computer shut down normally.
[18:09] <plujon> The last thing on the screen before the monitor went black was something about evicting inodes.
[18:14] <plujon> The amount of time to read the screen before the monitor goes dark is rather short.  Is it possible to make Linux shut down components in a different order, or to shut down everything except the display?
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> plujon: are you running in a VM?
[18:18] <BinarySavior> JanC, I mean it's not mounted when i plug it in like other cards
[18:19] <JanC> BinarySavior: but it shows up in Gnome Disks?
[18:19] <plujon> pragmaticenigma: Not right now, but I often do.
[18:19] <BinarySavior> JanC, no it doesn't show up in gnome disks either
[18:19] <plujon> I could try starting and stopping a virtualbox vm, and then seeing if my host fails to shutdown.
[18:20] <pragmaticenigma> plujon: when you installed the new drives, did you copy data from the old onto the new, or did you do a fresh install.
[18:20] <JanC> BinarySavior: and nothing in the journal or dmesg either?
[18:20] <BinarySavior> JanC, i didn't check journal or dmesg
[18:20] <BinarySavior> I just ordered a new card, this one is 10 years old
[18:20] <JanC> there might be errors there at the moment you plug it in
[18:20] <plujon> pragmaticenigma: The new drives are not system drives; they hold only data.  I formatted them as ext4 and copied some files onto them using cp.
[18:21] <plujon> I have one SSD plugged in that had started failing about a month ago, but it is not mounted (I removed it from /etc/fstab).
[18:22] <plujon> I'm running 6.5.0-14-generic.  I also added a few kernel parameters:
[18:23] <plujon> nvme_core.default_ps_max_latency_us=0 pcie_aspm=off libata.noacpi=1 # I added these when I started to have problems with the failing NVME drive
[18:23] <plujon> I guess those kernel parameters are suspect #4.
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> plujon: I would recommend removing the failing drive completely. Even though it's not being mounted, the kernel is still looking at it and trying to access parts of it
[18:28] <plujon> pragmaticenigma: Even on shutdown?  Even with no mounted file system?  Interesting.
[18:29] <pragmaticenigma> plujon: failing hardware can cause a lot of problems just being present. what ever is causing the drive to fail could very well be causing electrical noise or shorts in the system. Even with the drive unmounted, the kernel knows there is a drive there and will try to send a power up/down signal to that drive.
[18:30] <pragmaticenigma> A failing drive should be immediately backed up, and then removed to prevent further potential data loss.
[18:34] <BinarySavior> i have huge static build up on my body when sitting at my desk, i literally get shocked each time i touch something after sitting at my desk
[18:35] <BinarySavior> pretty sure i fried my sd card with my own static
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> if it repeatedly happens, that's very likely BinarySavior. You might want to invest in a humidifier if the air is really dry where you are.
[18:36] <plujon> pragmaticenigma: Ah, thanks.  I'll shutdown and remove the drive.
[18:38] <OnkelTem> Hi folks. I give up on trying to get colors from GNOME Terminal. How can I get its color palette? Can I use dconf for that? Or should it be gsettings? Is it really - a CSS file?
[18:38] <OnkelTem> Ubuntu 22.04 here
[18:39] <Stefan1899> Search for ubuntu color code online
[18:39] <JanC> BinarySavior: that is probably a result of the particular fabric of your clothes then (maybe combined with the fabric of your chair)?
[18:39] <OnkelTem> Stefan1899: it's useless, I tired of googling
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> OnkelTem: terminals got color schemes in settings
[18:40] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: yep, I see them. I need the palette from the default "GNOME" built-in one
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> OnkelTem: you mean the color codes from gnome terminal?
[18:41] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: positive!
[18:41] <OnkelTem> I'm pretty sure those built-in palettes should be stored somewhere, hopefully not in code
[18:42] <OnkelTem> I just can't get them. I tried using dconf but meh... it didn't help and my familiarity with it is near zero
[18:50] <plujon> I started and stopped a VM, shutdown was still clean.  I removed the failing nvme disk.
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> OnkelTem: I suspect the built in pallets are compiled into source. If only to avoid a user accidentally deleting or making a difficult to correct mistake
[18:53] <pragmaticenigma> I thought the colors themselves got stored as environment variables when initializing the session
[18:53] <OnkelTem> pragmaticenigma: as for the source - it's reasonable, yes. Do you have an idea where I can find the source?
[18:54] <pragmaticenigma> For Gnome terminal? I imagine it's somewhere in their code repos: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME
[18:55] <OnkelTem> pragmaticenigma: thanks!
[18:55] <pragmaticenigma> OnkelTem: https://gitlab.gnome.org/explore might be a little better link
[18:56] <plujon> I've also removed the custom kernel parameters.
[18:56] <plujon> journalctl contains # kernel: NOHZ tick-stop error: local softirq work is pending, handler #200!!!
[18:59] <plujon> I'll head over to #linux to ask about this error.
[19:58] <navarro> ok
[19:59] <navarro> ?
[19:59] <navarro> alexandre
[20:29] <olspookishmagus> in regards to linux-image, which term best describes this set? 'azure' 'azure-fde' 'gcp' 'generic' 'gke' 'gkeop' 'ibm' 'intel-iotg' 'lowlatency' 'oracle'
[20:30] <bprompt> olspookishmagus: come again?
[20:30] <CosmicDJ> olspookishmagus: custom kernels?
[20:31] <olspookishmagus> isn't "custom" a peculiar word, for there are being offered by the official repositories?
[20:31] <olspookishmagus> flavors maybe?
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> olspookishmagus: what context is the question coming from, that might help others better understand your question
[20:32] <olspookishmagus> I found it, it's "variants" SOURCE: https://ubuntu.com/kernel/variants
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> careful... the TVA might come after you now :P
[20:35] <olspookishmagus> pragmaticenigma: Tubrocharged Voracious Army?
[20:44] <ioria> Time Variance Authority
[20:46] <olspookishmagus> thank you bprompt, CosmicDJ, ioria
[21:50] <meiahtpc> can ANYONE describe how haveged works for me?
[21:51] <me_> hello
[21:52] <meiahtpc> can ANYONE describe how haveged works for me??
[21:52] <leftyfb> meiahtpc: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Haveged
[22:23] <meena> Hi folks o/~
[22:23] <bprompt> allo allo
[22:25] <meena> I just finally upgraded this laptop to 22.04, and for some reason, it prefers to install firefox from a snap package, rather than from the Mozilla PPA i added. How can I craft an apt preferences to prefer the PPA?
[22:27] <meena> here's what apt-cache policy firefox looks like: https://gist.github.com/igalic/b594faa47755f03244932c6afde2cf43
[22:28] <jeremy31> meena: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/general/documentation/how-to-s/662503-how-to-set-priority-for-a-ppa-i-e-using-firefox-without-snapd
[22:28] <xangua> As far as I know, he Mozilla PPA offers Firefox ESR meena, so you need to install that
[22:28] <meena> xangua: I *want* the Beta.
[22:28] <xangua> There's also a new Deb repository made by Mozilla
[22:28] <JanC> it offers both ESR & latest release
[22:30] <xangua> Ok
[22:31] <JanC> I assume you mean https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w_install-firefox-deb-package-for-debian-based-distributions
[22:32] <JanC> the explanation about priorities there is the same as what you need for the LP PPA... (except for the URLs, of course)
[22:33] <JanC> although you might want to limit it to only firefox packages for safety reasons, I suppose...
[22:33]  * meena likes to live dangerously, which is why she only updated this laptop 2 years later…
[22:35] <meena> beautiful. Thank you all for your help!
[22:35] <meena> Next question: How do I destroy a luks crypted disk?
[22:36] <meena> or rather, reuse it in the same setup… just get rid of the data
[22:40] <meena> shred -n 1 /dev/sdb # this should probably do it…
[22:41] <rbox> wipefs is generally all you need
[22:43] <meena> aye
[22:48] <mrpizza> new ubuntu user here, got a question regarding locating a file, if anyone has time to spare.
[22:49] <rbox> !ask
[22:54] <mrpizza> I'm trying to locate pdx_settings.txt, settings.txt, system.log and error.log in my Stellaris files, but going to Documents using the graphic interface results in a "Folder is Empty" message. Tried to use locate in the command terminal to find the path to the wanted files, which should be in Documents/Paradox Interactive/Stellaris/, but trying to
[22:54] <mrpizza> install the function resulted in a return of "/usr/bin/find: '/run/user/1000/doc': Permission denied," as well as another similar result that had gvfs instead of doc.
[22:55] <rbox> "install the function"?
[22:56] <mrpizza> I was led to believe that one had to install the locate function via a sudo command.
[22:57] <rbox> so what did you do
[22:57] <mrpizza> sudo apt install locate
[22:58] <rbox> and you got errors from find as a result of that?
[22:59] <mrpizza> I didn't use find; was told that locate is for finding files where you don't know the directory they're in.
[23:02] <rbox> you said "trying to install resulted in..."
[23:03] <mrpizza> Yes. After using sudo apt install locate, that was when I got the return of /usr/bin/find: '/run/user/1000/doc': Permission denied and /usr/bin/find: '/run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied,
[23:04] <mrpizza> Apologies, I'm new to this.
[23:04] <rbox> pastebin the full output
[23:08] <mrpizza> Attempting.
[23:10] <mrpizza> Apologies rbox, I don't know what I'm doing. Sorry for taking your time.
[23:11] <rbox> um, ok
[23:51] <ahc> I've only just connected my 2 desktop PCs Ubuntu 22.04 to a little 5-socket network switch. Assumes I can transfer files from one to the other. What best tool for this?
[23:55] <rbox> ahc: scp
[23:56] <ahc> Can see Windows Networks in File Manager, that's not set up here. Thanks. Will take a look at scp.